Trial Of Derek Chauvin - Officer Accused Of Killing George Floyd

PatAstro

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In George Floyd's astrology chart, Pluto represents death, right? Pluto trine Moon Taurus. Taurus represents neck. Mercury in Scorpio oppose Moon Taurus (neck). So Chaurvin is the blame for his death.
 

ElenaJ

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Which chart are you referring to?
We don't have his birth time, so we can't know the position of moon precisely, although it should be in taurus.
Pluto is in libra.
 

JUPITERASC

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George Floyd is a LIBRA Sun

Judge Peter Cahill ruled jurors can hear evidence that
Chauvin once told another officer in a separate arrest :smile:
to apply a Hobble restraint
–a kind of a restraining belt used by law enforcement
–in a “...hog-tie...” position
although a woman allegedly did not put up much resistance.


The state can also show evidence
that the defendant knew how it was dangerous
to kneel on the neck of the prone Floyd.

MN v. Derek Chauvin Trial Day 3
- Lt James Rugel, Foundational Witness
- Body Cam Videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt-uhOXiKSQ


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JUPITERASC

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George Floyd is a LIBRA Sun


Chauvin Opening Statements :smile:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko8cYBF8QDQ


Judge Peter Cahill ruled jurors can hear evidence that
Chauvin once told another officer in a separate arrest :smile:
to apply a Hobble restraint
–a kind of a restraining belt used by law enforcement
–in a “...hog-tie...” position
although a woman allegedly did not put up much resistance.


The state can also show evidence
that the defendant knew how it was dangerous
to kneel on the neck of the prone Floyd.

MN v. Derek Chauvin Trial Day 3
- Lt James Rugel, Foundational Witness
- Body Cam Videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt-uhOXiKSQ

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JUPITERASC

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Derek Chauvin Pisces Sun but no official reliable birth time


L&C's Brian Ross investigates

how Derek Chauvin's past might come back to haunt him :smile:

Brian Ross
Looks into Derek Chauvin's Past Incidents as a Police Officer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw_rCj1I2eE




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ElenaJ

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If they can't bring mention of Floyd's past aggressions, why can they bring in Chauvin's past difficulties?
 

JUPITERASC

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If they can't bring mention of Floyd's past aggressions,


why can they bring in Chauvin's past difficulties?
Prosecution opening statement brings in mention of Floyds past :smile:




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ElenaJ

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Ok.
I thought it had been banned to not prejudice the jurors.
 

david starling

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Ok.
I thought it had been banned to not prejudice the jurors.

The alleged victim usually gets protection regarding reputation, not the accused. (As I understand it.)

In this case, the alleged victim was fully under control when the alleged homicide occurred. That's summary execution.
 
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JUPITERASC

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Ok.
I thought it had been banned to not prejudice the jurors.

The alleged victim usually gets protection regarding reputation, not the accused. (As I understand it.)
In this case, the alleged victim was fully under control when the alleged homicide occurred. That's summary execution.
Nevertheless
somehow :smile:

Chauvins Defence got away with
highlighting the alleged victims reputation
during their Opening Statement
i.e.


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ElenaJ

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"The alleged victim usually gets protection regarding reputation, not the accused. (As I understand it.)"

This doesn't sound right.
It's specifically the accused who is normally protected, prior convictions are not permitted to enter the current case. A person is judged for what they are accused of now, not to be considered what they might have done years ago.
This comes up often in rape cases, where you are not permitted to say the accused was already arraigned or convicted of other prior rape charges.
 

JUPITERASC

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George Floyd Body Cam Footage, Fmr Ofc Thomas Lane :smile:
Even if Floyd might have been on some kind of drugs

and not right in the mind

but he didn't DESERVE this !

They had him in the back seat of the vehicle.
All they had to do is shut the doors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVboix78sjI



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david starling

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"The alleged victim usually gets protection regarding reputation, not the accused. (As I understand it.)"

This doesn't sound right.
It's specifically the accused who is normally protected, prior convictions are not permitted to enter the current case. A person is judged for what they are accused of now, not to be considered what they might have done years ago.
This comes up often in rape cases, where you are not permitted to say the accused was already arraigned or convicted of other prior rape charges.

Maybe Oddity knows more about it.
 

david starling

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In California, evidence of past behavior has to be "relevant" to the case being tried in court.

It varies from State to State, but Chauvin's lawyer would have objected if he believed it was inadmissible.
 

leomoon

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Now what is that all about?


Trump's buddies who worked for his campaign and helped him get into office in 2016, pleased the 5th routinely. It means (as Trump once quipped), "you are guilty", and don't want to "go there".



For this man, simply guilty of possession of drugs or knowing where the drugs were.



Had zero to do with the murder of George Floyd btw, but this is exactly what defense attorneys do. They go after victims, witnesses etc to divert the jury from the real case at hand., i.e. "a cold blooded murder".
 
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leomoon

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Ref: The 5th Amendment, not to incriminate oneself : (in the Derek Chauvin witness case)



Lots of these folks, took the 5th!:

https://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/transcript-rachel-maddow-show-4-1-21-n1262882


April 1st as you may know is the birthday of Paul Manafort which, for our country, or at least ought to be, perhaps, an annual sort of solemn civic reminder that the immediate former president of our country had to pardon his campaign chairman and he had to pardon his campaign manager, and he had to pardon his longest standing political advisor, and he had to pardon his national security advisor, and he had to pardon the deputy chair of his inaugural.

And his deputy campaign chairman went to prison and his personal lawyer went to prison, and his other personal lawyer is under federal criminal investigation, and he himself personally is named by prosecutors as an unindicted co-conspirator in multiple federal felonies, and he himself personally is now today, as a former president, actively under criminal investigation in two different states.
My guess (and it's only a guess) is that before it's all over for DJT, he TOO will plead the 5th Amendment, and not as a witness either, but as a defendant in one of the current 29 cases before the courts today - :surprised:




It's a rather routine, no big deal cop-out for witnesses and defendants these days:


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-pleading-the-fifth_n_57ed79dee4b024a52d2de46d


Sep 30, 2016 · Instead of answering, Donald Trump invoked his Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination. Over the course of five depositions that summer, he was asked approximately 100 questions related to marital infidelity. He pleaded the Fifth on 97 of them.




He once said (knowing everything that is, there is to know in life) - it's for the MOB ^ crime bosses to take -:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/07/politics/donald-trump-fifth-amendment-supreme-court/index.html

In a possible switch in sentiment, Trump may end up taking the Fifth, his lawyer Rudy Giuliani suggested on Sunday.
As he responded to questions about special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation, Giuliani declined to rule out Trump invoking his right against self-incrimination. Giuliani also said Trump wants to testify and that “every lawyer in America thinks he would be a fool to testify.”
 
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ElenaJ

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Aside from the fact that Trump has nothing to do with this trial, if this was a friend of Floyd's, wouldn't it seem logical for him to testify to help Floyd's side?
They already know whether the friend had drugs on him or not, and he is not on trial at any rate.
So why should he take the 5th?
 
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