david starling
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Also, the Russians are apparently both pro-Bernie for Democratic Party's nomination, AND wanting Trump to win a 2nd term.
Probably the people of many countries of the world in whose affairs the US has meddled violently, hope to see us either become more humane or self destruct.
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It is not as simple and black & white as that. Some History needs to be understood before making it so simple for your self to deem those trying to cross into a country, let us say the United States in this case, as violent or performing an act of violence. I think an urgent question should be - are such people coming in to escape violence, AND what circumstances and interference, let us again say by the United States, might have created that violent atmosphere in the homeland of such people trying to escape their homeland.Crossing into another nation's territory without permission is an act of violence. A government would be responding to such infringement, not initiating.
Probably the people of many countries of the world in whose affairs the US has meddled violently, hope to see us either become more humane or self destruct.
Well stated! I'm thinking in particular of the "initiation"of a long war with far ranging repercussions ever since for the very first time since WW2, invading a sovereign nation aka Iraq something that G.H W Bush back in the 90s frowned upon with good multiple reasons. President Bill Clinton also passed on such a request by the Republican group who has since dissolved after their dirty work was accomplish, The PNAC. BUT reasoning no longer prevailed for the American people (seem to have taken a leave of it) substituting raw emotion after 9-11 and that's when the Bush/Cheney team took the full advantage. Both DJT & of course Senator Bernie Sanders called that one correctly.
I do think however, using the Sibley chart with Antares (Anti-Ares) Rising, explains well how our country seems to thrive on warfare even IF its not a conscious thought to do or be involved. After all, we have a natal chart reflecting a Revolution in fighting off the British Monarch.
Background on the push for war with PNAC letters:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2008/1/27/444438/-
For Super Tuesday, it seems to me there are 3 who are the currently the chief contenders for the Democratic electoral votes . I haven't looked yet at Elizabeth Warren's or Pete. B. charts - and prior to Super Tuesday (March 3rd) will be another debate just after the South Carolina count on the 29th.
So with this in mind, they all (here) seem to have potential with Jupiter's aspects and in some cases, Venus including Sextile - Trine (Biden has Jupiter/Pluto opp to his n. Jupiter )
What?
I mean, it’s probably not one of those infinite millennial subcultural acronyms... right?
Of the three charts posted by Leomoon, Sanders has the strongest. If the elections had been in 2021, then of course Bloomberg would give real competition to Bernie.
Fascinating stories! Picking up just this one comment now - on mobile it’s hard to do more. Do you mean, the perception of the absence in the world of what is named by the 12th cusp symbol? Or the converse - that the symbol represents what is perceived to be wrong with the world?
My own 12th cusp is Virgo 4.. fitting the former interpretation...
Kansas is now jailing people for unpaid medical bills.
Bloomberg is a Republican in sheeps' clothing...
I almost suspect He entered the race just to pull voters away from a certain candidate...
True, as birds of a particular feather (substitute, like-minds of a certain net worth) stick together...
But Bloomberg wouldn't have the Cult-following Trump has, or the Russian Connection. He's been a registered Democrat for most of his life, and is considered Liberal, and even Progressive on most issues.
Whichever one of the candidates who can win the Electoral-vote is fine with me, for now.
David: What occurs to me, is he truly does have a "type" of cult-like following in the form of very wealthy movers and shakers in the DNC (i.e. HRC and Bill), on and on and on, certainly Wall Street folks, and those "in the closet, never trumpers" including Trump Republicans who held their nose the 1st time around, BUT would now, likely turn the corner for a "like-minded" Dem in the assets arena of life.
added: Add Independents who are wealthy and not bothered by conscience to that long list in this country.
To my way of thinking, (and I could be proven wrong, but I doubt it), its a war between the haves and the have-nots, with the Haves having more to lose to bring about all manner of disruption and chaos under the guise of "we must send Biden or Bloomberg" we simply cannot have someone who is for the little or average people who actually end up PAYING the bills of AJ's long long list of foibles and sins.
Any ideas on who Sanders would pick for his Vice-presidential nominee?
It's either win the Electoral vote, or/ AT LEAST 4 more devastating years of King Trump. If it's Sanders, great! Just don't expect him to be able to get much of his legislation through the House and Senate, and just hope the Oligarchy doesn't decide to crash the Economy as a response to his Presidency. Still great, though!