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IMPEACHMENT SLOW MODE:
Mitch McConnell MAY DISMISS President Trump CHARGES
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Lickspittle McConnell would just as soon scrap the Constitution and anoint Trumpeached as King.

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We'll need to check his Nemesis:
Lot of Nemesis:
  • [Day] Lot = Ascendant + Fortune - Saturn
  • [Night] Lot = Ascendant + Saturn - Fortune
  • Schmidt's Correction: Lot = Ascendant + Saturn - Fortune
This lot is based upon Saturn. It seems to indicate what is most likely to bring the native down. Nixon had nemesis in Gemini near the midheaven. He was brought down by the news media and too much negative public exposure (midheaven). According to Paulus:
"Nemesis becomes a contributing cause of subterranean fates and of everything which is ice-cold, of demonstration, impotence, exile, destruction, grief, and quality of death." [20]
The sign where nemesis falls seems to indicate what leads to the natives undoing. If it is Aries: it is the sword, or impatience; Taurus: the love of money; Gemini: slander, the media, a duplicitous lifestyle; Cancer: insecurity or attachment, large crowds, getting lost; Leo: pride and arrogance, excessive visibility, water; Virgo: lack of faith, jumping to conclusions; Libra: plasticity, divorce, separation, the pen; Scorpio: murder, plots, jealousy, scheming, lack of trust; Sagittarius: intemperance, intolerance, entrapment; Capricorn: carelessness, neglect; Aquarius: large gatherings, loneliness, political incorrectness; Pisces: indiscretion, being gullible.


************I haven't looked up his Part of Nemesis yet, but there is an asteroid with this name too: On Election Day 2020, Tr Neptune will trine this asteroid from the 7th house of the others.

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http://www.astrology-x-files.com/x-f...bic-parts.html


Hellenistic Astrology:

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The traditional major aspects are sometimes called Ptolemaic aspects since they were defined and used by Ptolemy in the 1st Century, AD. These aspects are the conjunction (0°), sextile (60°), square (90°), trine (120°), and opposition (180°).
I don't mean to be contrary BUT there is something within my personality (perhaps akin to my nemesis Trump?) which insists on never listening to rules which say "never do".....When I hear that, I automatically investigate and do the opposite as long as its not within the realm of illegal or completely "off the rails". So in true spirit of my handle in the natal chart I own, (11th house Uranus is the bucket handle) cj. my NN without any other planets above the horizon, I seldom practice my astrology like the others do. However, I do of course, respect their opinions even if I color outside their lines.

btw: G.W.Bush also has this conundrum of Uranus cj. NN in 11th BUT unlike me, has planets in his 12th house too and the NN is on the opposite side from mine. (could never quite pinpoint how that made us so opposite, but it does) Mine (NN) on the west, his on the east of Uranus.




For example: Trump has BML SEXTILE his Neptune, the only Ptolemaic aspect it makes within one degree orb. (although I've been known to nudge those damned orbs too when I feel like it.



His "natural instinct" is to lie his **** off! Thats just him, that even his most ardent supporters agree that's HIM in a nutshell! (Tucker Carlson for example admitted this on his show) It "may" also cause his ultimate downfall too.


I checked quickly his natal, although I want to find the time like you to also check his Lots out and post hopefully, a different chart using them, "just to see" what is potentially going on with him.


Meanwhile, I found this link which pertains to his BML & Neptune :


http://www.sevenstarsastrology.com/t...y-combination/



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Note that each of the domiciles of Venus (Taurus and Libra) are at a 60-degree angle from the domiciles of one of the lights (Sun or Moon). This relationship is called a sextile as it is composed of two signs 60 degrees apart (60 degrees is a 1/6th of the zodiac). The relationship is one of complement, much like the nature of Venus.

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Collins: I didn't think Nancy Pelosi could become more hypocritical



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Collins: I didn't think Nancy Pelosi could become more hypocritical
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#3900 pierce the vale:


I came across this which I thought interesting in light of the upcoming November 4th, 2020 Elections:




(from: http://www.astrology-x-files.com/x-f...bic-parts.html )



*******seems to say, it’s the same whether Away from home OR Accusation:
Lot of Being Away From Home:
  • [Day] Lot = Ascendant + Mars - Saturn
  • [Night] Lot = Ascendant + Saturn - Mars
As in being forced to take a hike. Like exile, as Naplolean was at Waterloo.
Lot of Accusation:
  • [Day] Lot = Ascendant + Mars - Saturn
  • [Night] Lot = Ascendant + Saturn - Mars
According to Valens this lot indicates the house [sign] through which the native is likely to experience failure, dangers, or downfalls. [29] This lot is also known as the lot of injury and sometimes the lot of being away from home.
For Trump it’s Cancer: 26 deg.48min. conjunct his natal Venus and opposite Tr. Saturn on November 4th, within arc minutes…..
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We'll need to check his Nemesis:
Lot of Nemesis:
  • [Day] Lot = Ascendant + Fortune - Saturn
  • [Night] Lot = Ascendant + Saturn - Fortune
  • Schmidt's Correction: Lot = Ascendant + Saturn - Fortune
This lot is based upon Saturn. It seems to indicate what is most likely to bring the native down. Nixon had nemesis in Gemini near the midheaven. He was brought down by the news media and too much negative public exposure (midheaven). According to Paulus:
"Nemesis becomes a contributing cause of subterranean fates and of everything which is ice-cold, of demonstration, impotence, exile, destruction, grief, and quality of death." [20]
The sign where nemesis falls seems to indicate what leads to the natives undoing. If it is Aries: it is the sword, or impatience; Taurus: the love of money; Gemini: slander, the media, a duplicitous lifestyle; Cancer: insecurity or attachment, large crowds, getting lost; Leo: pride and arrogance, excessive visibility, water; Virgo: lack of faith, jumping to conclusions; Libra: plasticity, divorce, separation, the pen; Scorpio: murder, plots, jealousy, scheming, lack of trust; Sagittarius: intemperance, intolerance, entrapment; Capricorn: carelessness, neglect; Aquarius: large gatherings, loneliness, political incorrectness; Pisces: indiscretion, being gullible.


************I haven't looked up his Part of Nemesis yet, but there is an asteroid with this name too: On Election Day 2020, Tr Neptune will trine this asteroid from the 7th house of the others.

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The Part/Lot is not what you apparently think it is.
I've studied it extensively and I know quite well what it is.
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#3900 pierce the vale:


I came across this which I thought interesting in light of the upcoming November 4th, 2020 Elections:




(from: http://www.astrology-x-files.com/x-f...bic-parts.html )



*******seems to say, it’s the same whether Away from home OR Accusation:
Lot of Being Away From Home:
  • [Day] Lot = Ascendant + Mars - Saturn
  • [Night] Lot = Ascendant + Saturn - Mars
As in being forced to take a hike. Like exile, as Naplolean was at Waterloo.
Lot of Accusation:
  • [Day] Lot = Ascendant + Mars - Saturn
  • [Night] Lot = Ascendant + Saturn - Mars
According to Valens this lot indicates the house [sign] through which the native is likely to experience failure, dangers, or downfalls. [29] This lot is also known as the lot of injury and sometimes the lot of being away from home.
For Trump it’s Cancer: 26 deg.48min. conjunct his natal Venus and opposite Tr. Saturn on November 4th, within arc minutes…..
Lot of Being Away From Home?
I believe that is for horary use.
The two formulae you have suggested are for the Lot of Surgery aka Lot of Police/Army and the Lot of Sickness aka Lot of Danger, although it also is known by the Lot of Accusations.

I also don't believe in the Diurnal vs Nocturnal switching of formulae and am have enough experience studying Lots/Parts to be thoroughly convinced that one should never switch formulae regardless of what time of day or night a person was born. Maybe for horary, as I've not studied horary astrology but I have little confidence in it... although I have had some success using it but through the application of the Sabian Symbols.

P.S. Late Edit. Giving it some more thought I find this title you supplied, i.e. the Lot of Being Away From Home, to be intriguing and I will study it. It seems that it could apply to natal charts.
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Without the use of the Sabian Symbols one will never truly understand the Astrological Parts.

I've many threads in the Degree Symbols sub-forum and the Astrological Parts forum in which I demonstrate this... and explain why one should never go switching formulae regardless of when a person is born.

Ptolemy is just some old, and long dead, Greek dude to me... He didn't invent anything, or discover anything, He merely passed on what was known before and often that knowledge was incomplete, that is to say, partially or mostly lost.

I'm all about the rectification of astrology, that's what I was born to do.
It's a new age and the rectification of astrology will happen with you, or without you, being a part of it.
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I suppose IF I had a tombstone or obituary (which I plan on having neither) ; it would say my life is summed up with a few words:


"To each his own". my motto in life. I never try to convince others how to envision anything. Its just ingrained in me by a wonderful mom, (Sagittarius Sun) who taught me the philosophy of higher living. I'm forever in her debt for doing so.





for Pierce the Vale: Have you a link for these posts you talked about above? I'd like to see them.
Jupiter: Diane Feinstein is well past her prime and needs to retire. You can add all those OLD WHITE MEN too, to the "should retire list" imo - including Pelosi. I'm not one that reveres the aged and believe they ALL need "term limits" at the trough.

* age exceptions for POTUS: Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders. Why? Because they are progressive and younger thinking then the stodgy old farts currently in D.C. I felt the same about Nancy Pelosi when she ran AGAIN.




Arianna Huffington once wrote about corporate greed and political greedy ones (Republican Supreme Court judge said "Corporations are people too, my friend".....but Donald J. Trump is part of the problem and NOT the solution (imo)

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I suppose IF I had a tombstone or obituary (which I plan on having neither) ; it would say my life is summed up with a few words:


"To each his own". my motto in life. I never try to convince others how to envision anything. Its just ingrained in me by a wonderful mom, (Sagittarius Sun) who taught me the philosophy of higher living. I'm forever in her debt for doing so.





for Pierce the Vale: Have you a link for these posts you talked about above? I'd like to see them.
How 'bout, "Between the right way, the wrong way, or the highway, I chose the High Way.".
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Nancy Pelosi announced today, she is sending over the 2 Articles of Impeachment next week. The trial may start after MLK Day (a holiday in D.C.) It may of course not even be a trial since McConnell has not said he'd allow any witnesses, and vows to just Acquit Trump. He met with Trump yesterday to talk about this set-up sham.



Meanwhile, Noah Bookbinder said that never before in the history of Impeachment hearings (and there have been 15 in all by the Senate) have they not been witnesses called. Of course, others have been Impeached besides Presidents in our history.
Noah Bookbinder is executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington and a former federal corruption prosecutor.




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Speaking to reporters this Friday, Susan Collins (R-ME) said that she’s working with a “fairly small group” of Republican senators with the purpose of allowing witnesses to testify in the Senate trial of President Trump, the Bangor Daily News reports.
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Nancy Pelosi announced today, she is sending over the 2 Articles of Impeachment next week. The trial may start after MLK Day (a holiday in D.C.) It may of course not even be a trial since McConnell has not said he'd allow any witnesses, and vows to just Acquit Trump. He met with Trump yesterday to talk about this set-up sham.

Meanwhile, Noah Bookbinder said that never before in the history of Impeachment hearings (and there have been 15 in all by the Senate) have they not been witnesses called. Of course, others have been Impeached besides Presidents in our history.
Noah Bookbinder is executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington and a former federal corruption prosecutor.

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Since McConnell and Graham have already declared that they're going to violate the Constitutional requirement for a fair and impartial trial in the Senate, Pelosi may appeal the Unconstitutional acquittal to the Supreme Court, which is ALLEGEDLY non-partisan.
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for Pierce the Vale: Have you a link for these posts you talked about above? I'd like to see them.
Jupiter: Diane Feinstein is well past her prime and needs to retire. You can add all those OLD WHITE MEN too, to the "should retire list" imo - including Pelosi. I'm not one that reveres the aged and believe they ALL need "term limits" at the trough.
I looked all through both the Degree Symbols forum and the forum for Astrological Parts and can't find it. I may have deleted it myself some years ago but I doubt it. I know that I wrote an extensive thread on it at the ACT Astrology web site and forum but they pulled that web site down...some say I overwhelmed it.
I will have to write a thread on the matter for this forum...
Basically I have found, and proven to quite the degree of satisfaction, that all Astrological Parts are symbolically active...that is when you apply the Sabian Symbol found for what ever degree a particular Part happens to be in.
You can see this demonstrated in my thread titled, ""The Birth Chart of Jesus?", in which I cover a number of them...there may be a demonstration for the Part of Sudden Advancement/Lot of Nemesis in that thread but this subject needs its own thread.
Whatever the symbolism is that is found for said Part it is either the nemesis of that individual or it is what provides a "sudden advancement" when it is accomplished. Hence whether it was a person nemesis or that which gave them a leap forward in fulfilling their destiny, their dharma, can only really be judged after the life of a person...most of the time.
My own is in the 29th degree of Virgo and by Dane Rudhyar's "keyword summation it is a symbol of "TOTALIZATION OF PURPOSE AND EFFORT" and thus it should be obvious why I'm still plugging these findings here at this forum after more than eleven years of almost constant effort.
Trumps' Part of Nemesis/Sudden Advancement is in the 5th of Aries [04* Aries 23' 38"]and that symbol according to Rudhyar's book "An Astrological Mandala" is

"ARIES 5°: A TRIANGLE WITH WINGS.
KEYNOTE:
The capacity for self-transcending.
This is the symbol of the desire to reach a higher level of existence, of pure aspiration or devotion, of bhakti. What has emerged in the first phase of the process of differentiation is becoming aware of the possibility of further up-reachings. The principle of "levitation" is seen as one of the two essential factors in evolution. The emergent being glorifies and deifies it, but it is still only an ideal. At this stage, nevertheless, the whole being experiences a childlike longing for its eventual realization.

At this point the last and synthesizing stage of the first five-fold unit in the cyclic process is reached.
A NEW DIMENSION of being is envisioned mobilizing creative endeavors."



Dane's "Keynote" phrase says it all, imho. "The capacity for self-transcending."
Trump can't get over himself...so, seriously "Self Transcending"?, Trump?

Definitely a nemesis unless some great change comes over the man in the next few years. Trump's nemesis is himself.

P.S. and Diane Feinstein definitely has to go as well.
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I've never been fully convinced of the "pick & choose) method of Sabian Symbols, and sold my book by Lynda Hill many years ago.,
Since Lynda is a friend for years now on FB, she's not convinced me, but once in awhile, I will sit back and take note when she gives me something of value (I find in some which she offers on Trump's antics )...but overall, its not something I'd rely on day to day personally speaking. She doesn't seem to mind my skepticism, as its in my nature I suppose.


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I've never been fully convinced of the "pick & choose) method of Sabian Symbols, and sold my book by Lynda Hill many years ago.,
Since Lynda is a friend for years now on FB, she's not convinced me, but once in awhile, I will sit back and take note when she gives me something of value (I find in some which she offers on Trump's antics )...but overall, its not something I'd rely on day to day personally speaking. She doesn't seem to mind my skepticism, as its in my nature I suppose.


"To each their own" I always say.
https://sabiansymbols.com/about-lynda-hill/
There's a similarity between the attributes of the fixed stars, handed down to us from very ancient times, and the Sabian Symbols. They both rely on psychic intuition, although the color, brightness, and constellational positioning do "inform" the ancient descriptions of what the individual stars mean in a Chart.

Trumpeached has two stars in his Natal-chart that stand out--Regulus and Algol.
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Every time the Commander in Chief orders the use of a "Hellfire" missile, like the one used to assassinate Soleimani and other targeted individuals, Trumpeached makes MONEY!
He owns stock in the companies that manufacturer them.
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