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Unread 09-16-2019, 10:54 PM
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I notice I have a few grand trines, can any one explain their significance?

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I notice I have a few grand trines, can any one explain their significance?

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Unread 09-17-2019, 10:34 PM
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You have a pleasant Trine, at the Apex, highest elevated, and in your M.C.-sign; strong and happy; and glad to be in easy communication with both of them.
The unpleasant Trine, is with , which is on poor terms with both the , Domicle-ruler of the Sign opposite its own Domicile-sign; and its two rivals, &
Looks like you have both good friends and bad frenemies.

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Your trine between the Moon-Uranus-Jupiter is actually a really big help for your chart.
The emotions with ambitions, expansion, fortune, new birth, and freedom. I have a similar energy in my chart with my sun instead of the moon. Its quiet a combination and you'll move mountians with this beautiful set of trines, in a good way. The other trine isn't strong enough for me to say worry about..

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Your Sun-Saturn, angular Pluto, and Pluto-Neptun-Mars need all the positive energy they can get.
Ego tied with restraint, struggle, and suffering. Very materialistic and survival focused.
Mars-Neptune is by far the closest aspect to the living devil I've ever seen. These people are devilish, manipulative, have a immortal like charisma to them. The ability to softly lead someone to the inner most depths of hell. Add Pluto to that and you add the ability to store an enormous amount of force behind a calm abd rather docile face/personality, this causes a natural explosive pot-stirring effect to the devlishness.
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Wonder why no one mentions fire? The emphasis on the element is very important.
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Wonder why no one mentions fire? The emphasis on the element is very important.
You just did!:
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Speaking of this Fire-trine, Jupiter benefits the most, regarding the Element--makes it strong and happy.
Interesting, that the upward-pointing triangle is the actual symbol for fire.
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Speaking of this Fire-trine, Jupiter benefits the most, regarding the Element--makes it strong and happy.
Interesting, that the upward-pointing triangle is the actual symbol for fire.
In the sidereal this is still the case for Jupiter as well (as it sits in pisces).
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In the sidereal this is still the case for Jupiter as well (as it sits in pisces).
Jupiter is strong in Pisces, but not happy.
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Jupiter is strong in Pisces, but not happy.
Care to elaborate why?
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To the OP: I would be cautious with Grand Fire trine, especially when there are few hard aspects to support it. The Grand trine is so enclosed the only hard aspect around it is a Venus/Moon square. Grand Fire trine is full of life force and enthusiasm and is great at being pioneer. But the down side is recklessness and ego problem. This is especially concerning when the trine planets are in the career houses (2H, 6H, 10H). You need a lot of conscious will-power to take a hold of this powerful energy or else you will crash and burn, very publicly.
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Care to elaborate why?
Jupiter's a workaholic. Likes to expand boundaries. In Pisces--no boundaries to expand.
In 12/12, Jupiter is Domiciled in Virgo, Regulating-ruler of Sagittarius, Motivating-ruler of Taurus, Exalted in Aries, Benefactor in Aquarius.
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Except in sidereal Jupiter is home in saggitarius and depending on who you ask in pisces, and sun is exalted in aries not Jupiter.
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Except in sidereal Jupiter is home in saggitarius and depending on who you ask in pisces, and sun is exalted in aries not Jupiter.
Yes. Different pattern. Modernistic siderealism is using the Traditionalistic 7/12 pattern (7 Domicile-rulers/12 Domicile-signs), and hasn't really factored in the outermost 3 astrological planets. Same goes for tropical Modernistic. The dignities and debilities of 7/12 excludes them entirely.
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Yes. Different pattern. Modernistic siderealism is using the Traditionalistic 7/12 pattern (7 Domicile-rulers/12 Domicile-signs), and hasn't really factored in the outermost 3 astrological planets. Same goes for tropical Modernistic. The dignities and debilities of 7/12 excludes them entirely.
Not to take over this thread but we have found tha Pluto is to aries, Neptune to Pisces, Uranus to Aquarius. Exalted Uranus to Scorpio, Pluto to Gemini, Neptune is till up in the air.
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Not to take over this thread but we have found tha Pluto is to aries, Neptune to Pisces, Uranus to Aquarius. Exalted Uranus to Scorpio, Pluto to Gemini, Neptune is till up in the air.
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Hi hexakosioi, I'm an aspiring astrologer, following Vedic astrology. Vedic astrology is like an onion, there are many many many layers.

I need your birth time/date and birth location in order to make predictions. Do you mind DMing me this information? I'd really love to analyze your chart and give you feedback in exchange of you telling me what was accurate or not.

If not, no worries.
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No. Not any thing advanced. But sure lets go with that and not that I was texting out the door about to be late for class.
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No. Not any thing advanced. But sure lets go with that and not that I was texting out the door about to be late for class.
Another possibility was multiple personalities.
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Hi there,

I notice I have a few grand trines, can any one explain their significance?

Also read my chart in general if possible.

Thanks for your birth info! According to sidereal astrology, you are a Libra rising/Taurus Sun/Leo Moon

Since Libra is your asc, it is ruled by Venus which becomes an important planet for you. Venus is in your 7th house, in the sign of Aries. Itís in a neutral sign, without any malefic planets aspecting it. You are sweet in relationships (whether it be romantic, or business). You are never aggressive when it comes to these matters. You find yourself dealing with a lot of enemies and competition, creating sudden ups and downs in your life. Your Saturn is in mutual aspect with the Sun, which can represent father. Your Saturn also aspects your 4th house, but itís aspecting Capricorn, its own house, so doesnít damage it too badly. I would say and your father had a rocky relationship, but itíll get much better with time, as it is in a Nakshatra ruled by Moon, and Moon is in the 11th house, a house that gets better over time. Your relationship with your parents and people in home have been strained, but itíll get better over time. Your Saturn/Moon aspect creates a Dhan Yoga, a wealth producing Yoga. Especially when you run your Sun or Saturn time period.

You entered your Venus period in 1991, and it lasted until 2011. So almost all of your childhood life can be viewed from Venus. Putting Venus in your asc, itís ruler Mars goes into the 3rd house, and is conjunct Mercury, in the sign of Gemini. Mercury is very very strong here. Because Ketu goes into your 6th house, even though you dealt with enemies/competition, you never gave two shits about it. You were great at dealing with enemies through communication, and heated communication at that. But once you said what was needed to be said, you forget about it. You didnít let the negativity that comes from enemies linger. Enemies at this age indicates bullies. You may also have studied something related to law or medicine. Iím saying this because 5th house is deals with relationships/education (til undergrad). Its in by a nakshatra ruled by Ketu, which is in your 6th house from Venus.

You currently are running your Moon period (until October 2027). This is great time for career matters. You may work for matters relating to home/home land, and you will be very successful at it, bringing you luck and fame.

Does any of this sound accurate so far? Could you tell me what is, and what is not?
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Unread 09-20-2019, 08:08 AM
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You don't have "a few grand trines". You have one, in Fire. What is of importance is the Element in which the Grand Trine occurs.

The primary dynamic of the trine aspect is "momentum". It "continues along a straight line until some external force acts upon it". Its attributes are repeated actions which result in accretion, natural ease in actions, talents. In astronomy, it is embodied in the Trojan asteroids that accompany Jupiter, Neptune and to a lesser extent Earth (La Grangian points L4,,L5).

Because it acts along the path of least resistance, any over-emphasis of the aspect, such as in a grand trine (in which a certain circularity is inherent) can result in going around in circles, or falling into and deepening a rut.

The Elements in astrology are highly subjective and have to do primarily with how we perceive the world.

Fire sees the "potential" in any situation or object. It might ask, "What could this become", or contrariwise, "From where and how did this come into being?"

Although the cross-sign trine aspect Moon-Neptune is just as strong as if the two planets occupied signs of the same Element, it does not contribute to the grand trine because it does not emphasize a single Element.

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