Is he cheating on me?

zodiacangel

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Dear astrologers...

Can u help? he has been acting strange the last couple of days.

ignoring and avoiding me. Is he cheating? I need to know so I can move on ...

Help me?
 

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waybread

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I don't think he's cheating on you.

My best guess, with his significator (sun) moving into a new sign, that he might be entering a new phase, and that he might be seeing you (Saturn) as holding him back in some way. I think it's more likely that the two of you are simply drifting apart, but that he doesn't feel comfortable explaining this to you.

Let me know if you find out what is actually going on, though.
 

Bunraku

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Waybread, I was going to message you about this thread actually... Asking what your take on it was...

See, for males we take the Moon and Venus. Lilly in his passage said substitute the Moon for Sun and Venus for Mars if reading for a male. We can look at Moon’s past aspect to see what happened, so in this case the moon does does a double duty in this chart.

Moon recently separated with Venus. :ninja:

Lilly:

* "Lord of 7th or the Moon joined to Venus, he had a lover with whom he is familiar."
* "If the lord of 7th or the Moon, or both, separating from any other planet but the lord of the ascendant, and he not separated above three degrees, he did love another, but she has now left him”
*“If the Moon, or lord of the 7th, separate from Venus, he had formerly a lover, but now they have forsaken each other."
 

waybread

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Hi, Bunraku--

There is a whole lot of horary astrology that I still need to learn, and I can't say that I follow Lilly closely, as he has so many testimonies that sometimes it's hard for me to make sense of them all. The testimonies you cite sound more like the BF did have another GF once, but that she's not part of the picture now.

Here is my rationale:

1. I was informed by some good horary astrologers at Skyscript that I should use the 7th, not the 5th, even where the relationship is new or uncommitted; but that if a significator falls in the 5th that may be useful information.

2. She's Saturn, he's the sun. The sun applies to an opposition with Saturn, but before it does that, it hits a trine with Jupiter.

3. The moon (her emotional stake in the matter) has passed its last aspect with the sun. The moon applies to a sextile with Mars (the "boy planet") but is this a strong enough testimony? Mars is in its own face, but otherwise lacking essential dignity. Venus is in detriment, picking up no other essential dignity.

4. If we follow your explanation of Lilly, the moon has passed Venus, so what ever happened in the past is staying there. Venus does not perfect an aspect with the sun.

5. The moon translates light from Venus to Mars, but Venus is in a weakened position, and Mars isn't such hot shakes, either.

What bothers me a bit is that the chart doesn't tell a story that I can make sense of. Why is the BF's significator in the 4th? It's his turned 10th house: maybe he's focused on his career? Why is her significator in the 11th house? It's his turned 5th: maybe he thought of her as a light short-term relationship to begin with? Why is the moon in the second house: money troubles?

Either way, I don't get a strong testimony of another woman in the picture: more like, what actually holds this couple together? And read her OP: she's already thinking of moving on.

I'd enjoy seeing your interpretation, Bunraku-- as well as zodiacangel's reply.
 

zodiacangel

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Hi, Bunraku--

What bothers me a bit is that the chart doesn't tell a story that I can make sense of. Why is the BF's significator in the 4th? It's his turned 10th house: maybe he's focused on his career? Why is her significator in the 11th house? It's his turned 5th: maybe he thought of her as a light short-term relationship to begin with? Why is the moon in the second house: money troubles?

Yes he is having troubles looking for money and work as he is jobless
 
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