Well, the order of how things went down is plainly viewable to everyone, so if I am wrong, I am wrong, and if you are wrong, you are wrong. There's no arguing it. I would never purposefully rearrange what you said to make you sound "bad", and if I did I sincerely apologize. But I believe that I did notI don't know why you would accuse me of putting words in your mouth and changing the order of them. I have no reason to do that, and I personally am above that. If there was a mistake in the order (but not in what you said because I directly quoted you), it was a honest mistake and I apologize. Again.
Well, you did mess with the order of the conversation. The order in which you posted what Kai said and what I said afterwards him, was not correct and with your making such a mistake like that at a convienient time when I am being ambushed... LOL doesn't make you appear to have made that mistake by accident, but for some reason I believe that you had no ill intent so let's just drop it and move on...
[You are mistaken. I did want an honest response. Like I said, I'm trying to understand without assuming things. Even though you have agreed with this statement, you seem to be doing the opposite quite often. I think we can all be open in this thread; asking questions about someone's opinions doesn't have to be the same thing as criticizing them.]
Okay, we are moving on now as I said, everything I mistook you for doing in that instance was based on the ambush and I apologize for seeing you in particular light shortly after we had earlier came to an understanding. It's just that I have come to see that people around here pretend like they have moved so I think it is cool to move on until either an ambush occurs or something about me is said in another thread pertaining an old incident.
You yourself mentioned something about it either being a conscious or subconscious choice. All the critical thinking in the world would not penetrate the subconscious, so how do you expect people to understand it?
I don't expect people to understand it but if they don't understand, they should just simply say that. All the negative ego bouncing around is unecessary in a debate, if one can not handle the heat just get the heck out of the kitchen. I was serious about this discussion, I went and did my research and all. I could not find the statistics I mentioned because they were hearsay from this teen counselor that I know but I had asked him today where did he get his statistics from and he was the one who told me about the website where the 1 out of 5 is reported to be molested boys but he went on to say that he didn't have proof of a statistical number because lots of cases go un reported and the kids he meets are not monitored or cared for up into their adult age. Any way, I don't play around with this kind of stuff.
All we have for windows into the subconscious are dreams and such, and those aren't usually made up of easily decoded thoughts, reasons, and explanations. Also, I don't think many people, especially on this forum, are "relying on every whim of a scientist's word". There are some people who look to science for an excuse for them and their life, but I feel that that is a minority of the population. However, with the subject of homosexuality, there is very little conclusive information on the "why", and also the "how" (besides probably being somewhat genetic). I think that because there is so much information and so little of it is true, people try their best to find the most unbiased and logically "pure" theories, and science has offered up something for the people to eat; that it is likely that genetic composition affects an individual's sexuality, at most partially, at least minutely. There is no way "ordinary" people could apply critical thinking (taking an average person, middle class, etc.) and come up with the same results that scientists can find in a laboratory, through experimentation, etc.
