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Re: Please Help me with my daughters chart

Thankyou Astrologer50..I study astrology, I may understand it, but it is hard for me to explain it or give anyone am aware of Equal House, I use both. I just added my Placidus chart here because that is what most people use. I like to get other peoples ideas on my chart and my daughters chart..sometimes people see things in ways I may not. I always find that very interesting. I was told by my mom that I was born at 8:30 pm, but it did not seem accurate to me. I finally sent off for my long form birth certificate, and it said I was born at 10:33pm, this info was more accurate. My chart to me is very accurate for who I am. Somethings in my chart I have worked through and somethings I am still working on. I have problems with Anger and I have a problem with communicating. I have a hardtime saying what I mean. The words are there, they just don't come out the right My thinking is all over the place. I have had a few people tell me that they are surprised that I am sane considering the life that I have grew up in a abusive home and everything in my life has never been easy. So, when I had my daughter I should have known that it would not be easy had to have an emergency C-Section with my daughter, I had a full abruption. My mother told me that she went into cardiac arrest with me, and almost lost me as well. I am wondering if the Scorpio Rising has anything to do with it..I have heard similar stories, and most of the people had Scorpio Rising. My daughter has always been more marure than the rest of her peers. It was just the two of us all the time, her dad worked alot, so he was never around. When he was, he was not really there.. My daughter's behavior started to change when she was 3 years old.Her dad had to go out of town to work, and he was gone for 5 months. We saw him for only 2 weeks out of those 5 months. My daughter also is very jealous of her Step-sister who is 20 years old. Her dad shows her sister more attention when she is around. My daughter feels that her dad loves her sister more. My daughter told me, mom why is dad nice when my sister is here, he seems happy. My daughter notices these types of things. I told my husband about it, and he tries to show my daughter extra attention when her sister is down. I have also explained things to my daughter, I told her that her dad does not get to see her very often so when he does, he tries to give her extra attention and that her dad loves the both of them equally. She is doing better with it all now that she has gotten older. My daughter is just growing up sooner than I expected and I have to accept it. She even corrects me on try not to make demands on her, I just expect her to keep her room some what daughter is very messy. She does not like to clean and these days it is like torture trying to get her to take a shower. She tells us, I am tired and going to bed when I ask herr to take a shower. Lastnight was a new one, my head told my daughter I am sorry your head hurts, I will get you a tylenol but first take a will make you feel better, she argued for a bit, but eventually she got in the My husband and I created alot of the problems. My daughter is constant all the time, and we just got so tired that we gave up on alot of things, and it just got out of hand. We sat down and talked lastnight, and we wrote a list of things on paper that we expect from my daughter, and explained it too her, and had her sign it. We have given her an allowance, and explained to her that if she does not do what is on the list, she does not get an only has a few things on the list..We expect her to clean up after herself after she takes a bath..Make her bed before school(my hubby wants Keep her room clean, and turn the lights out after leaving a room. Her computer time has been limited to 3 hours a week. I have child locks on her TV, but some shows have gotten through that I do not agree with. EX..Family Guy, that is no longer allowed. I told my husband that we need to work together, he allows my daughter too do anything because he does not want to put up with her..I told him that we are sending the wrong message to are daughter, and this is why she plays us against one another. She knows who will say yes to tried having a talk with her last night about a subject that has me worried, but she just ignores me..She is to young to understand what I am trying to tell her. My daughter has an interest in people who cut themselves which they call EMO..I had no idea they had a name for it until my daughter told me about it. She learns all this stuff at school. She thinks it's cool. I caught her trying to scratch herself on her arms and pick at her scabs so they would bleed, she said mom I want to be part of the blood brothern..It is these type of things that really worry me. The fact that my daughter finds these type of things interesting bothers me. She is usually a leader and does her own thing, but at the same time she is easly influenced, if that makes any sense? My daughter and I talk about these things, but right now she is too young to understand what I am trying to tell her..I like to have my daughter watch movies with me dealing with subjects that kids go through growing up..and she usually walks away with a better understanding afterwards. It' just hard. I know that I am not the only mother out there that has gone through this, but nothing really prepares you for it.
I hope all this makes sense, sorry for any mis-spellings..I just wanted to give some of you a better understanding of my daughter and my relationship and what I am dealing with...My daughter and I have alot of things in common that I will not get into here right now..We both have certain gifts that cannot be explained.

Originally Posted by astrologer50
You have calculated your chart using the default on of placidus and I use Equal House system and am a modern astrologer. Lots of people that come into Astrology get their free charts calculated at and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all that there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few more.

Throughout the forums but mainly in natal astrology there are two main branches Placidus (unequal size houses) v Equal House (whereby each house is same size) but lots more……. For more information on these go here.

It's only with study and research will you be able to assess where your planets are deposited and in which houses... thus see which 'glove fits'

Now your Venus is conj her IC which shows inherent affection and venus is exalted in pisces, very sacrificial for family members.
In Equal house your Sun is in the 5th house of children not 4th.
Your neptune in first can sometimes be bit gullible espec when younger and square your mercury suggests you either misinterpret communication from family or give out wrong information...

Mercury square or opposition Neptune
Your mind is full of fantasies and illusions. It is hard for you to be objective and concrete with your ideas and you tend to be disorderly and lose concentration on your studies. Your extreme sensitivity may lead you to retreat to your fantasy world when you feel disappointed or hurt. Because of your creative and imaginative mind, you can excel in artistic achievements where you will communicate your ideas more easily. If you have grown up in a stable and harmonious home you will avoid your escapist tendency.
Alternate interpretation: Your mind is highly imaginative and creative and you possess dramatic, artistic, or musical abilities. As a child, you enjoyed daydreaming, fantasizing, pretending, and probably lived in "your own little world" a good deal. You perceive things which are not obvious to other people and you have an uncanny ability to "read" people and situations without being told anything about them. However, you must learn to discriminate between a true psychic perception and your imagination. Learning to discipline and focus your mind is necessary if you wish to use all of your creative potential. Otherwise, you could be simply a dreamer.

Communication with others is difficult for you because you often find words frustrating and inadequate to express your experiences and perceptions. Also, you may purposefully mystify or deceive others.

Her Saturn is conjunct your chiron. here it is natally just adapt.
Chiron and Saturn
Saturn organizes and controls. The person with a Chiron/Saturn aspect will tend to be compulsively controlling and over organized. The reason could a fear of letting go, or perhaps they are still trying to please an over-restrictive parent. The other side of the coin would be someone who is highly disorganized and sloppy, or seems too fearful or depressed to make a move.

Her mercury is conj your Neptune so how your think and communicate is at odds and setting off your Neptune natally
When Mercury in your chart forms an aspect to your partner's Neptune, empathetic, spiritual, deceptive, or confusing communications figure strongly in your relationship. What type of interaction depends on the aspect that joins Mercury and Neptune, as well as the individuals involved.

When your Mercury forms a challenging aspect (square, opposition, or quincunx) to your partner's Neptune, you might complain that your partner is vague and indefinite in his or her communications with you. Although you could find each other quite intriguing at first, mistrust could develop over time, as Neptune's response to Mercury's pressing questions and statements could end up being deceptive or roundabout. Your Neptune partner could find your statements confining--he/she may perceive you to be too logical or rigid in your thinking. Your partner could attempt to inspire you, but may often feel misunderstood. Your partner might also react by trying to be what he/she perceives you want him/her to be. Misunderstandings could plague the relationship if you are not careful--this is a very challenging aspect in synastry.

This aspect is the main problem between you and as suggested your Neptune prob doesn't have enough boundaries or perhaps doesn't know fully where they stand. The old saying: There's many a slip between cup and lip.

Now her sun sign is conj your Asc IF your time of birth is correct. Your Saturn in cancer is trine her venus and chiron in 12th house, showing you can give easy empathy and structure to her view of romantic matters.
Your mars in late Gemini is quincunxed her Neptune in late 2nd/conj 3rd house. So the way you act(mars) is sometimes at odds with her dreams aspirations, ideals, fantasies and beliefs/values (2nd) and communications (3rd)

In your own chart again if time is correct Sun quincunxed moon suggests your parents really didn't quite understand each other.
Sun Quincunx (Inconjunct) Moon

Your perceptions of others and of life circumstances alter as you get older. As others misunderstand your intentions and you misjudge others' motivations, natural corrections occur for you. It is through concentrating on the core values of communication in relationships that you make major adjustments between your ego drives and your emotional needs. This becomes a critical mechanism for personal growth and development.

Your moon square saturn suggests you are able to endure hardships/financial or otherwise, prob cos you saw mum had to. This could on occasions suggest that you withdraw emotionally and could poss get a bit depressed, espec if triggered by a transit.

Your N Node position is quite informative also.
North Node in Scorpio and/or in the Eighth House
With North Node in Scorpio, our South Node is in Taurus. With North Node in the eighth house, our South Node is in the second house.
A tendency to be overly self-reliant and set in our ways, to cling to our possessions (material and otherwise) and habits, to be too fearful of crisis and overly focused on security, and to attempt to achieve success through sheer will rather than listening to our sixth sense are some of the issues this position suggests. With this position, we need to loosen the grasp we have on the things and people around us and open ourselves up to our soul's need for transformation, change, and regeneration. We may experience difficulties in partnerships because we tend to be blind to others' values and worth, expecting them to share the same values as us. We, in fact, not only need a partner, we need to learn the value of true partnership and intimacy (sharing) in order to gain the security we so crave! But, first we need to move away from our instincts to support ourselves, and towards sharing with significant others. We may fear taking chances and we tend to resist change as well as input from others. We may find ourselves imprisoned by the world of the five senses, and need to learn to fearlessly confront the possibility of crisis and change in our lives. Moving out of the seemingly solid and stable material world can seem intimidating. But clinging to things and people that are either outdated, limiting, or counter to our growth will steer us in the wrong direction. Releasing ourselves from our attachment to doing things our own way will help us find inner balance and satisfaction.

North Node in Pisces and/or in the Twelfth House
With North Node in Pisces, our South Node is in Virgo. With North Node in the twelfth house, our South Node is in the sixth house.
A tendency to worry unremittingly, to be plagued by vague (and sometimes not so vague) feelings of guilt about under-performing, to lack faith and trust in a larger more spiritual plan, and to over-analyze ourselves and others are some of the issues this position suggests. With this position, we need to put some faith in spiritual powers or the "big picture", to let go of some of our fears that we are not doing enough, to love ourselves and others with more compassion and understanding, and to be humble, feeling safe in the knowledge that we (and others) are not perfect. We need to trust and develop our imagination, as well as our capacity for compassion. Learning to let go of some of our obsessions with rules, details, and fears of not doing things perfectly will help us to achieve a greater sense of balance and to ease our fear of failure and guilty feelings.

Hope this helps
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