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Re: Marriage indicators in Horary

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Originally Posted by tikana View Post

i looked at this and i am doomed sun is completely void!
Sun is only one of several considerations

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In Natal Charts, men look at the Moon, women look at Sun. The Sun Oriental from the Horizon, meaning in the 4th, 5th, 6th or 10th, 11th and 12th Houses indicates an early marriage, or marriage to a younger man. The Sun Occidental, in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 7th, 8th or 9th means a later marriage or marriage to someone older......


For women, Sun in a Bicorporeal or Prolific Sign


or

in applying aspect to one or more Oriental Planets indicates more than one marriage......

If that is not the case, then most likely the Native will marry only once.....
keep in mind then that BOTH men and women
next look to planets in applying aspect to Venus


i.e.
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Both men and women then look to Planets in aspect to Venus (applying)
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Women don't want to see Sun with Mars or Venus, or Venus with Saturn or Mars. Mercury, well Mercury is a Common Planet so it depends on which Mercury shows up in the chart.
another consideration is Hermes' Lot of Marriage

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Hermes' Time of Marriage Lot is ASC + Moon - Sun which is the same as the Lot of Fortune in a Day Chart, so if you have a Day Chart, you can direct the Lot of Fortune for marriage. If you have a Night Chart, you can direct the Lot of Spirit (which is the same).

Often in a Solar Return, the 7th House coming to the Ascendant indicates a potential for marriage. Contrary to modern astrology we put the Solar Return inside and the Natal Chart outside. For one thing, there's absolutely no mistake about which House comes to the Ascendant in the Natal Chart. You have to be careful, because what appears to be the SR Ascendant coming to the Ascendant of the Natal Chart might actually be the 6th House.

To find the Marriage Ruler (or Lord of Marriage or Significator of Marriage or Almuten of Marriage whatever you want to call it) we calculate the Planet that has the greatest amount of Dignity in those Chart Points related to marriage. For example, I'd use the 7th House Cusp (20 Tau), 7th House Ruler (Venus at 4 Can), Moon for Men/Sun for Women (Moon at 7 Pis), Lot of Marriage (I use Hermes' 13 Ari) and Ruler Lot of Marriage 28 Ari, plus Venus (for both Men & Women) 4 Can (again). Then you set up a crude table:

...............Sign.......Exaltation.......Sect Triplicity.......Term
20 Tau.. Venus... Moon............. Venus................ Jupiter
04 Can.. Moon.... Jupiter........... Mars.................. Mars
07 Pis....Jupiter... Venus............ Mars.................. Venus
13 Ari.... Mars...... Sun............... Sun.................... Venus
28 Ari.... Mars...... Sun............... Sun.................... Saturn
04 Can.. Moon..... Jupiter.......... Mars................... Mars

Now, is there any one Planet that has Dignity in all those points? No, but if there was, that would be the Marriage Ruler. If Mars had Dignity in the 7th House Cusp, he would fit the bill. If Jupiter had Dignity in Mars and the Lot of Marriage, he would be the Marriage Ruler.

We add up the points, and Mars being Sign Ruler twice, Triplicity Ruler 3 times and Term Ruler twice wins. Mars is the Significator of Marriage.

So, Mars is the Lord of Marriage (or Marriage Ruler). If one Planet did not have Dignity in all of those Chart Points, then I would add up the Planets to which had the most Dignity.....


It's a lot work, but the results are satisfying, and it is about the results, right?

By the way, there are no transits to Natal or Progressed, and the Solar Return has the 11th House Cusp on the Ascendant (that would be a difficult chart to read unless you were also looking at Profections which show the Profected 1st House).

[extract from http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=282587#post282587 - Moderator]
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