Mars conjunct sun in 8th house but no aspect in chart so is it likely to impact

Zeuses

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I have mars conjunct sun in 8th house coming but no aspect in the natal.chart https://app.unsee.cc/#20cdc453 am I likely to feel this transit given I have some positive transits from outer planets at the same time? I'm assuming that it is Mars then this transit must occur quite often in A lifetime.

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JUPITERASC

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I have mars conjunct sun in 8th house coming
but no aspect in the natal.
Am I likely to feel this transit
given I have some positive transits
from outer planets at the same time?

I'm assuming that it is Mars
then this transit must occur
quite often in A lifetime.
the transit you mention
occurs APPROXIMATELY EVERY TWO YEARS :smile:

i.e.
Mars orbits Sun once every 1.88 Earth years
or
once every 686.93 Earth days

ASTROSEEK offers multiple FREE software calculations
for example
- there's a FREE NATAL TRANSITS SEARCH ENGINE :smile:
at https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/planet-ingresses-and-particular-degree-returns-calculator


ASTROSEEK Free Natal Transits Search Engine
enables anyone to check when a particular transit last occurred
and then
recall events experienced at those previous transits
of any particular planet



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katydid

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I have mars conjunct sun in 8th house coming but no aspect in the natal. Am I likely to feel this transit given I have some positive transits from outer planets at the same time? I'm assuming that it is Mars then this transit must occur quite often in A lifetime.

It happened about every two years. You can go back and see what happened in previous Mars/Sun transits to see what kinds of things happened.

Usually there is a shot of extra energy and drive. Maybe feel a bit sexy and flirty with it being in your 8th?
 

JUPITERASC

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It happened about every two years.
You can go back and see what happened in previous Mars/Sun transits
to see what kinds of things happened.
Usually there is a shot of extra energy and drive.
Maybe feel a bit sexy and flirty with it being in your 8th?
Main Rulerships of 8th house

= All matters relating to death, decay,
fear, anxiety and loss.
as well as
unexpected inheritance, wills, legacies
and testaments of the deceased
also
Money belonging to a partner, spouse or other party.
Financial obligations, debts, taxes
loans, losses, money owed to others.
It is wise to avoid any financial gambles :smile:
or high-risk activities
during periods when this house is heavily emphasised.
Traditional astrology relates the eighth house to crisis
hidden matters, anguish of mind, poison and deadly fears
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h8.html


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Zeuses

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Main Rulerships of 8th house

= All matters relating to death, decay,
fear, anxiety and loss.
as well as
unexpected inheritance, wills, legacies
and testaments of the deceased
also
Money belonging to a partner, spouse or other party.
Financial obligations, debts, taxes
loans, losses, money owed to others.
It is wise to avoid any financial gambles :smile:
or high-risk activities
during periods when this house is heavily emphasised.
Traditional astrology relates the eighth house to crisis
hidden matters, anguish of mind, poison and deadly fears
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h8.html


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Lol I'm glad I have good outer planet transits then. Given that it happens every two years I assume positive planets have helped to combat this transit over the past 50 years or so.
 

Zeuses

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It happened about every two years. You can go back and see what happened in previous Mars/Sun transits to see what kinds of things happened.

Usually there is a shot of extra energy and drive. Maybe feel a bit sexy and flirty with it being in your 8th?

Thank you for this I guess I would have to go through the other transits surrounding it at the same time when it has occurred previously would I?
 

JUPITERASC

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Thank you for this I guess I would
have to go through the
other transits surrounding it at the same time
when it has occurred previously would I?
begin with ANNUAL PROFECTIONS :smile:
in tandem with
SOLAR REVOLUTION aka modernist SOLAR RETURN
as the most reliable foundation aka "start"

for those unfamiliar with PROFECTIONS
an explanatory intro to ancient Hellenistic time-lord technique
via a podcast on ANNUAL PROFECTIONS
which begins by introducing how to usetime-lord techniques
to analyse transits
and
includes a detailed treatment
of how to use the basic method of annual profections
in order to make yearly forecasts and predictions
starting from the birthday aka SOLAR RETURN.

ANNUAL PROFECTIONS: A Basic Time-Lord Technique video version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBwfIMnBKZk&t=239s

ALSO

ancient timing technique ZODIACAL RELEASING
DIVIDES A PERSON'S LIFE into 'CHAPTERS'
and
helps establish your overall life story :smile:
Zodiacal releasing is an Hellenistic time-lord technique
recently recovered
from
https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf
the work of the 2nd century astrologer VETTIUS VALENS
EXPLAINED IN DETAIL in episode 192
of The Astrology Podcast
with Chris Brennan and Leisa Schaim.
ZODIACAL RELEASING: An Ancient Timing Technique
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBSLHj8ddBc&t=751s




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JUPITERASC

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In the evolutionary and revolutionary system of Ellias Lonsdale called Star Genesis, the 8th becomes fully alive in the present, not the past. It is the House of Awakening.

“Death” is the on-going repetition of beliefs accepted as truth.

Notice the word LIE in the middle of believe.
ours is an International Forum
and
Notice the word BELIEVE is an English word :smile:
it's a fair point that
the premise does not hold when using other languages
for example:
both
"croyez"
and
"glauben"
have the same meaning as "believe"
and yet fail to convey your suggestion
that the word "believe" IS AUTOMATICALLY a "lie"
About the 8th, Lonsdale wrote, “The terrible part is that we have a saboteur in our midst, a self-saboteur who prefers repeat performances...This house is where we make our spiritual reputation — for we will be asked to slay the ghosts of all pasts, in order to bring spirit to bear livingly in the world.”
Inside Star Vision, pages 76-77, Ellias Lonsdale ©2000

Lonsdale also points to a Mars which is freed from the fetters of its name. Consider that NASA is discovering a planet that was once covered with oceans. She, Mars, was once bright in the eye for Earthlings, like Venus and Jupiter.

Lonsdale wrote, “Mars is the champion of radical self-overcoming...The deeper core Mars is devoted to pulling us into spaces that challenge us to extend our range of self-expression.” page 81

Where are Sun and Mars placed in your harmonic 9th chart? Transits of Mars to the harmonic 9th Sun may show moments when consciousness quickens to say, “There is so much more.”

https://imgur.com/SRug1RZ
https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121676

Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part II - Seven Stars​


Mars completes 42 sidereal cycles and 37 synodic cycles with 79 years.
It has retreating arcs of 16 degrees for 72 days.
Mars is burning and drying, malefic, masculine and nocturnal. Pyroeis makes those born under him red and white in complexion, tall, robust, gray-eyed, with thick hair, somewhat curly, having excess of hot and dry when morning rising, and red, of middle height, with small eyes, not much hair on the body, straight yellow hair, having excess of dry when evening rising, and in general, natural, grim, resourceful, passionate, drinking, turbulent, relentless, challenging and confident. Mars controls force, wars, robbery, screams, violence, the loss of property, whoring, banishment, exile, alienation from parents, captivity, corruption of women, abortions, sexual intercourse, the loss of good things, lies, vain hopes, violent theft, banditry, plundering, disputes between friends, wrath, fighting, verbal abuse, hatred, lawsuits, shouting, violent murder, slashing and bloodshed, attacks of fever, boils, burns, imprisonment, torture, courage, false oaths, wandering, decoration of clothing, excelling at villainy, those who work with fire and iron, artisans, masons, leadership, military service, high-ranking officers, soldiers, supremacists, hunting, wine, falling from heights and four-footed animals, poor vision, apoplexy and falling on the back, the muscular system, the urinary system, the lower gastrointestinal tract, weapons, iron, reddish colours and acid tastes. It is chronocrator over late adulthood up to the 56th year.


Bibliography:
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos. William Heinmann, London. Retrieved from
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley. Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius%20Valens%20entire.pdf
 

Zeuses

Well-known member
In the evolutionary and revolutionary system of Ellias Lonsdale called Star Genesis, the 8th becomes fully alive in the present, not the past. It is the House of Awakening.

“Death” is the on-going repetition of beliefs accepted as truth.

Notice the word LIE in the middle of believe.

About the 8th, Lonsdale wrote, “The terrible part is that we have a saboteur in our midst, a self-saboteur who prefers repeat performances...This house is where we make our spiritual reputation — for we will be asked to slay the ghosts of all pasts, in order to bring spirit to bear livingly in the world.”
Inside Star Vision, pages 76-77, Ellias Lonsdale ©2000

Lonsdale also points to a Mars which is freed from the fetters of its name. Consider that NASA is discovering a planet that was once covered with oceans. She, Mars, was once bright in the eye for Earthlings, like Venus and Jupiter.

Lonsdale wrote, “Mars is the champion of radical self-overcoming...The deeper core Mars is devoted to pulling us into spaces that challenge us to extend our range of self-expression.” page 81

Where are Sun and Mars placed in your harmonic 9th chart? Transits of Mars to the harmonic 9th Sun may show moments when consciousness quickens to say, “There is so much more.”

https://imgur.com/SRug1RZ
Apologies but I have no idea where they are placed in the harmonic chart but they are both placed in the 8th natally dependent upon which house system is used
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
*
Leisa Schaim and Chris Brennan
discuss the first steps when trying to interpret a birth chart
and which astrological factors to focus on in natal astrology :smile:


New students of astrology often learn a number of different techniques
but they are often unsure of the order and priority
to give different factors when you are first looking at a new natal chart.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF0xkRzJTRc


Since there are many different approaches to astrology
astrologers will tend to develop different approaches
or prioritize different things


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Zeuses

Well-known member
*
Leisa Schaim and Chris Brennan
discuss the first steps when trying to interpret a birth chart
and which astrological factors to focus on in natal astrology :smile:


New students of astrology often learn a number of different techniques
but they are often unsure of the order and priority
to give different factors when you are first looking at a new natal chart.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF0xkRzJTRc


Since there are many different approaches to astrology
astrologers will tend to develop different approaches
or prioritize different things


.

Thankyou for this
 

Zeuses

Well-known member
It affected me by beginning a new physical hobby that is the best thing I've done for some time. In taking up the hobby I have overcome a lifelong fear of deep water. So it was positive.
 
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