Re: Could I make a career as an astrologer?
It's a bit strange to see the fundamental dispute between traditional and modern astrology turn into a personal debate between 2 or 3 individuals. One claiming the 8th house rules sex without any good arguments to support it and the other claiming the 8th house doesn't rule sex without any good arguments to support it (*), and then they both post links to validate their views - but of course the traditional astrologer will cite traditional astrology sources and the modern astrologer will cite modern astrology sources and we're back at square one - the fundamental dispute between traditional and modern astrology. I don't think it should turn this personal because it's not about the abilities or talent of some specific astrologer in this forum, so trying to show this specific astrologer is incompetent will not solve the fundamental issues. BTW, I do find that "neo-traditional" astrologers, after "discovering the light", tend to become a bit fanatic about it. OK, passionate. But this passion can be offensive at times.
(*) And no, to me the pleasure/grief argument is not very convincing. For some people sex is indeed that simple, much like the simple pleasure of a nice sweet cream cake. For others sex is a profound emotional experience that has much deeper and possibly darker psychological meanings than just pleasure. Of course, one may "solve" it by, say, having Scorpio in the fifth house or something like that, but the point is that merely relating sex with pleasure as the singular evidence for why it's ruled exclusively by the 5th house and has nothing to do with the 8th is not enough to convince me. I think it might be more convincing if we'll remember sex originally, before the pill, was not just about pleasure, but had something to do with propagating too
, and the 5th house is related to children.
I'm not getting into this debate because I know nothing. So I'm asking questions. A couple of years ago or so I read online some research on ancient astrology, sorry I don't have the link. In ancient times there was also a house system of 8 houses begining with birth in the 1st house and ending with death in the 8th. It's pretty likely the significance of the 8th house as the house of death was derived from this 8 house system although a 12 house system was finally adopted, so I find this significance a bit inconsistent with the 12 house system. What do you think? If the 8th house is the house of death, which we know it is even in modern astrology (even if interpreted more figuratively), then what's the meaning of all the houses "beyond" it? It made sense with this particular ancient 8th house system because it was constructed in a way that the 1st house was birth and in the 8th house everyting just came to an end, but what's the logic behind it being the house of death in the 12 house system?
For now I don't have any preference based on facts or logic between traditional and modern astrology because I don't know enough. I prefer the modern 8th house interpretations for reasons that are not factual or logical - I simply have a bunch of personal planets in the 8th house
. When I read traditional 8th house interpretations I get all depressed and consider suicide - not because my life now is THAT bad, but because they tell me everything I'll try to do with my life is going to fail horribly and then I'll die a violent death. I might get an inheritance though, if that's any consolation. But that inheritance might come from my husband
- why get involved if I know now the guy is gonna die? Who cares about his f---ing inheritance? Reading traditional 8th house interpretations I'm more likely to die of fear before I get to die that violent death they predict for me.
Reading modern astrology interpretations, on the other hand, is giving me some insights which seem true for me. It doesn't mean these interpretations are valid, maybe it's just a coincidence, but I certainly prefer them because with the traditional interpretations I just have nothing to work with, they're not even interesting since the way I'm going to die, for instance, is not the kind of information I'm really interested in - even if it's true then you just know that and move on, there's nothing you can do with that kind of knowledge.
The same thing with Saturn - it squares my Sun and Mars - that's pretty bad traditionally and there's nothing I can do. While modern astrology offers some insights I can really work with and have some results.
Isn't traditional astrology more about knowing your fate, good or bad, and just accepting it? Some planets and placements are malefic and some fortunate and that's it, nothing you can do about it?