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Re: Is Horary "like" Tarot?

Originally Posted by virgo18 View Post
I mean if it is trustful as natal chart or SR are?

When you ask an horary question, you have to make a chart with the date and hour of the question. Like making a natal chart of the question.
If you remake the same question a month later, the chart will tell you something different. Even if you remake the question two hours later.
I think is like in terms of fortune. Do you?
I make several questions here in the horary section, and I receive yes-no answers, so I am again as If I wouldn't make any question. So I decided to let the answer in Life's hands.

Do you trust horary?
yes? no? why?

What are your opinions and experiences about horary? I want to know more because I am based of what I seen. And I don't know how to use horary. And I want to learn
(Following are my personal opinions ONLY)

-yes I believe it as trustful as a natal or SR; however, I believe natal and SR (and profections) give much more depth and insight in general (about general matters) than horary-horary gives more depth relative to specific (usually daily life type) questions; also advice-request horary can give specific advice about what to do in a particular situation (natal based charts cannot do this)

-horary questions about the same subject cannot be reliably re-asked until time has gone by: if re-asked before the horary's likely time frame has elapsed-or until the situation which occasioned the first horary has changed-the prematurely re-asked same/similar question will evoke an unreliable answer from the Cosmos.

-I trust (the reliability) of horary as much as any other type of astrological method of investigation, analysis or prediction (of trends/likely outcomes)
However, the conditions pre-requisite for horary divination must be observed: standard horary has a list of strictures and considerations before judgement which should be followed for the horary to be reliable (trustworthy); in the alternative methods I use in horary, I also have a couple of basic requirements that have to be met, otherwise I would consider the horary to be unreliable (these are, most importantly: no South Node in the rising sign on the ascendant; secondly, the ascendant degree must be at least 1 degree and not more than 29 degrees of the sign)

-my experiences with horary have been satisfying, although prior to my learning the alternative horary methods I use I had abandoned standard (traditionalist) horary as beyond my mental capacity to understand and apply. Most of my experience has been with medical horary (I am a practitioner of homeopathic medicine) My experience with other branches of horary like relationship, legal, business, career, travel, residence, has been limited (only several hundred of these types of horaries over the past couple of years) One must realize that specialization in certain types of horary questions, definitely improves one's abilities and accuracy, in those types of questions.

-one should also be aware that there are several different approaches to horary. In the Western revival of horary (as an acceptable field of astrological practice) over the past 15-20 years, standard (traditionalist) horary has been dominant; a minority approach is called "Modern horary" (the alternative horary methods I use are based on obscure texts and oral tradition and, to the best of my knowledge, no one-at least in England and the USA and Australia-uses them) However in the Islamic world, the older Arabic horary is still widely practice (vide David Rouell) and some of the methods and concepts they use are similar to the oral tradition I follow (which I have referred to as the "Ankara" or "Old Turkish" tradition) But in the East (and increasingly in Europe, America and Australia as well) a very different (and a very ancient-dating to at least the 5th century AD) horary tradition exists: this is the jyotish-based horary called "prasna sastra"; and there is also a variety of that, based on Tejaka jyotish concepts, called "prasna tantra". These Eastern forms of horary are entirely different "models" of horary practice than what we follow in the West. So, like many things, it all comes down, in the end, to what each person decides to do, relative to undertaking the study and practice of the horary art.

-I am a strong follower of Tarot divination (since the mid 1960's) But Tarot and horary (whether traditionalist or Modern, "alternative" or Arabic or jyotish) are fundamentally different: Tarot divines from the subjective and the symbolic toward the objective. Horary goes from the objective through the symbolic in order to divine the Cosmic answer to the specific question or request for guidance...

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