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JUPITERASC

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"The Earth is not a planet...." -{petosiris}. :biggrin:
Let's view petosiris actual comment :smile:

The Earth is not a planet (a wanderer like the Sun, Moon or the other five stars) in astrology
it is the center of the universe.
Exactly - as petosiris mentioned
within the obvious context of a Geocentric astrological chart
the earth is not a wanderer like Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn :smile:
because
The Earth is a Geocentric observation point for astrological charts
and as such
the ascendant of an astrological chart
is the ascendant of Earth itself
therefore
clearly
obviously therefore
ridiculous to expect to observe Earth orbiting its own skies above its own horizon :smile:

IN CONTRAST

from our Geocentric perspective
seven classical planets reflecting light from the Sun
are easily observable above Earths horizon
whereas obviously
Earth is not separately visible in its own skies above Earths own horizon :smile:

A HISTORICAL NOTE FOLLOWS

Before artificial aids to vision
such as spectacles, binoculars, telescopes, Hubble Telescope, Observatories,
the Ancient utilised simple naked eye observation :smile:
to view local night skies
These Ancients noted celestial objects easily visible with the naked eye
that in fact have been observed for all of human history:
Technically,
there was never a scientific definition of the term Planet before 2006.

Greeks observing skies thousands of years ago
noticed celestial objects acting differently from Fixed Stars.
These points of light seemed to wander around the sky throughout the year.
hence the Greek term "planet" from the Greek word "Planetes"
- meaning wanderer.
i.e.
The sun and moon weren't mistaken for planets.
Under the old definition, they are planets.
Planets are stars that wander, not stars that are fixed.
The nodes are eclipse points,
and the ascendant is the point on the eastern horizon.
They're both mathematical markers.
https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=622432#post622432
https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=117493
The word "planet" originally evolved from the Greek "planetes aster"
or "wandering star"
and referred to the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, Mars, and Saturn
whose motion could be detected against the backdrop of fixed stars
that are stable in their relative distance from one another
but all move together as one large group.
So, petosiris is half-right in my opinion, concerning whether the Earth is a "planet".
Objectively speaking it is, but not in the same sense as in the purely subjective view.
reviewing petosiris actual comment we find the following observation :smile:
The Earth is not a planet (a wanderer like the Sun, Moon or the other five stars) in astrology
it is the center of the universe.
Exactly because planet is derived from a Greek word "wanderer"


The Earth is a Geocentric observation point for astrological charts
within the context of a Geocentric astrological chart
the earth is not a wanderer like Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn
and as such
the ascendant of an astrological chart
is the ascendant of Earth itself
therefore
ridiculous to claim ability to observe Earth orbiting its own skies above its own horizon :smile:

clearly

Earth is not separately visible in its own skies above Earths own horizon


HISTORICALLY
to view local night skies
Ancient utilised simple naked eye observation
NOT spectacles, binoculars, telescopes, Hubble Telescope, Observatories :smile:

These Ancients noted celestial objects easily visible with the naked eye
that in fact have been observed for all of human history:
Technically there was never a scientific definition
of the term Planet before 2006.
Planet is a word derived from Ancient Greek
because, when Greeks noticed particular celestial objects
acting differently from Fixed Stars
seeming to wander around the sky throughout the year
the Greeks identified these points of light as
"Planetes" aka 'wanderers'
 

david starling

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Interesting that the astrologers in the Alexandrian scientific community were aware of the Heliocentric model of the Solar system during the time of Hipparchus.
 

JUPITERASC

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George Zimmerman suring parents of teen he shot dead 2012

In a statement provided to the South Florida Sun Sentinel Crump said
“I have every confidence that this unfounded and reckless lawsuit
will be revealed for what it is
— another failed attempt to defend the indefensible
and a shameless attempt to profit off the lives and grief of others.”
 

david starling

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George Zimmerman suring parents of teen he shot dead 2012

In a statement provided to the South Florida Sun Sentinel Crump said
“I have every confidence that this unfounded and reckless lawsuit
will be revealed for what it is
— another failed attempt to defend the indefensible
and a shameless attempt to profit off the lives and grief of others.”

They should counter-sue for the infliction of emotional distress caused by his lawsuit.
 

david starling

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And they rejected it for obvious reasons.

No, it was kept as an interesting possibility. I use it as a cipher to assign Cardinal-sign rulerships and, most obviously, the Sun as ruler of Leo (Heliocentric fiery, fixed Sun ruling Fixed-Fire). These can then be applied to the Geocentric.
When the early Roman Catholic Church exiled the Alexandrians, the Heliocentric model first proposed by Aristarchus of Samos c.200 B.C.E. was lost, then rediscovered by Copernicus.
 

david starling

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Sun and Moon are planets that revolve around the Earth - Joshua 10:12-13

Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Venus, Mercury and comets seem to revolve around the Sun though.

Another interesting model. It was really Kepler who nailed it regarding the Heliocentric, by introducing the elliptical orbits and deriving the 3 Laws of Planetary Motion.
 
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