A Voyage of Discovery: Astrological Ages for the Tropical Zodiac

david starling

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The competition between the currently dominant Saturnian, and the incipient Uranian, Age-rulership is increasing, year by year. Astrologers should be aware of the dynamics of what amounts to an actual rivalry between the two, due to the Age-paradigm itself. For example, a Sat/Ura conjunction or trine is not an amicable relationship by any means.
 

david starling

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The introduction of the Aquarian Age concept itself had to wait until the Mean-setting of the tropical Age-indicator was close to the 4th degree cusp of tropical Capricorn, which it reached in 1917. Following that, it became well-known, and, in the late 1960's, widely popularized.

Knowledge of the astrological Ages was made possible by the Orb-Influence of the Age-indicator. This advancement in the understanding of the Ages, using the Age-window, was a product of the tropical Age-indicator's Mean-setting having reached the 3rd degree cusp in 1975.
 

david starling

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Strangely enough, the vast majority of the sidereal astrological community gives no credence to any current Aquarian Age influence whatsoever.

Instead, it's the tropical astrologers, unaware of their own Zodiac's ability to explain the Ages, who have been misusing the sidereal Zodiac to attempt to explain their intuitive certainty that an Aquarian Age is already having an effect on the world today.
 

david starling

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So, we're living in the most Saturnistic era in the long history of the tropical Age of Capricorn. We all have Saturn amped way up in our Charts, with varying results. Uranian influence is gradually amping up as well, as we transition into the Aquarian Age. Such is modern-day life.
 
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david starling

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My opinions concerning the rulership of Capricorn and Aquarius are my opinions alone. They don't impact the use of the Age Window to determine the tropical Ages, or to explain the well-known overlap of Age-signs, both tropically and sidereally.

However, please be advised that if Saturn rules both Capricorn and Aquarius, the tropical Aquarian Age will have Saturn as both Age-ruler and background Age-ruler.

This goes against my own intuitive certainty that the Age of Aquarius will be extremely beneficial. But, we're all entitled to our own opinions on the matter.
 
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david starling

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Here's an interesting coincidence:

For someone who sticks with the ancient, 7-rulers-only pattern, the Piscean, sidereal Age-ruler would be Jupiter alone (with Neptune not a factor), and the background Age-ruler is Mars in any case. So, that's a Jupiter/Mars overlapping combo, with Jupiter dominant.

For the current, tropical Capricornian Age scenario, it's Saturn as Age-ruler, both in both Modernistic and Traditionalistic usage, as well as Jupiter as background Age-ruler for the background Age of tropical Sagittarius. That's a Saturn/Jupiter overlapping, with Saturn dominant.

The coincidence is that Jupiter is included as a type of Age-ruler in both the tropical AND sidereal Age-paradigms for the tropical Age of Capricorn and the sidereal Age of Pisces.
 
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david starling

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Just noticed another coincidence:

For Traditionalistic astrologers using only Jupiter as Age-ruler of the sidereal Age of Pisces, that will be Jupiter as background Age-ruler for the sidereal Age of Aquarius. And with Traditionalistic Saturn as the sole Age-ruler of the sidereal Age of Aquarius, that will be the identical foreground/background combination as the Traditionalistic and Modernistic Age-rulership of the current tropical Age of Capricorn: Saturn/Jupiter overlapping, with Saturn dominant.
 
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david starling

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Tropicalists have chosen so many different dates for the start-year of the sidereal Aquarian Age, it makes it appear that there is no way to actually determine it.

And, sidereal astrologers themselves, having chosen 10 or more "ayanamsas" , meaning the sidereal Sign-boundary locations, have no universally accepted start-year for it either.
 

david starling

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It occurs to me that, if someone who knew a fair amount concerning astrology, but was entirely unaware of "astrological Ages", was informed that they're extremely long cycles of time, encompassing many centuries; and, that the next such cycle will be that of "the Age of Aquarius"--wouldn't the normal assumption be that it's preceded by an "Age of Capricorn"? After all, having it be an Age of Pisces that precedes an Age of Aquarius is "counterintuitive", given the regular sequence of Sun and Moon-signs.
 

david starling

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Both the tropical and sidereal Zodiacs are divided into 12, measured, equal Sign-intervals of 30 degrees.

The Age Window is the measured, 30 degree interval that represents the entire circle of the Zodiac: It's "The part that represents the whole".

And, just as those 12 measured Sign-intervals are located differently from one type of Zodiac to the other, so is the representative Age-interval located differently.

The 30 degree Age Window is located tropically by using one end of the center-line of the Earth's elliptical orbit, which is Earth's Point of Perihelion, marked along the tropical Zodiac by the Sun when the Earth is closest to it.

The 30 degree Age Window is located sidereally by using one end of the Line of Intersection of Earth's Orbital and Equatorial planes, marked along the sidereal Zodiac by the Sun, when Spring begins in the Northern Hemisphere.
 
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david starling

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As the representative part of the Zodiac itself, the Age Window transits in the plane of the Ecliptic, which is where the Zodiacal Signs are situated. The Ecliptic is the Earth/Sun Orbital plane, so it makes sense to locate the Age Window using a feature of that Orbital plane.

Tropically, it's located using the elliptical shape of Earth's orbit, and sidereally, it's located using the tilt of Earth's Orbital plane relative to its Equatorial plane. In both cases, the Sun is used as a marker.
 

david starling

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As I've (attempted to) explain, these astrological Ages are a function of Earth's Orbital plane and Earth's relationship with the Sun. They also transit due to Earth's "wobble" as it rotates.

For those reasons, these are EARTH'S ASTROLOGICAL AGES, rather than the mistaken notion that they're somehow "beaming down on us" from the constellations.

And, since we are "of the Earth" these astrological Ages have a profound and deep effect on our psyches.
 

david starling

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Here's an metaphor about our current situation during this materialistic, tropical Age of Capricorn: Imagine we're trapped at the bottom of a deep well, floating in water and looking up at the sky through the small opening at the top. We don't realize it though, we're convinced we're getting the full view, instead of just the small circle.

Okay, so the Sign known as Aquarius is about pouring out water from an overflowing basin. The water is pouring into the well, raising the water level, and lifting us higher towards the surface. The view of the sky is getting wider, and by the time the Aquarian Age actually takes effect in 2149, we'll be free from being trapped inside of the well, and we'll finally have the whole picture of "the Heavens", as the ancient astrologers called it.
 
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david starling

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The most important things the Earth's Age of Aquarius will enable us to finally understand on an experiential level, are what happens to us when we incarnate into our physical bodies, and, what really happens to our psyches after physical death. Also, how to heal our bodies with our minds.

Why astrology works will become evident as well.
 

david starling

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Chiron becomes extremely significant regarding the ongoing transition from the tropical Saturnian-ruled Age of Capricorn into the Uranian-ruled Age of Aquarius.
 

david starling

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The description of Saturn as representing the "old", and Uran as representing the "new" is becoming more widespread. It just hasn't quite translated into the conscious awareness that it applies so well to the many centuries-old, tropical Age of Capricorn ruled by Saturn, changing over to the next, new, tropical Age of Uranian-ruled Aquarius.
 
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david starling

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This Saturn/Pluto/Jupiter stellium in tropical Capricorn, occurring in the Age Window, which is close to converging with tropical Capricorn, Saturn's Domicle-sign, in this year when the True-setting of the leading edge of the Age-window, (the Age-indicator), is as close as it's come yet to ingressing tropical Aquarius (less than 1 degree away), is like war in the Heavens. And now, Mars in Aries squaring the stellium by Sign as it applies toward exact conjunctions with Pluto, then Saturn, coupled with Mercury and the Sun in opposition with the stellium by Sign, both moving towards exact oppostions, is a recipe for disaster, both mundane and personal.
 

david starling

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It's actually a retrograde Saturn, which could affect the outcome.

There's another one to watch for: Mars in tropical Aries exactly square retrograde Pluto in the Age Window on Aug. 13th.
 
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