A Voyage of Discovery: Astrological Ages for the Tropical Zodiac

It's the Cardinal-sign, tropical Ages that exhibit their intrinsic results in the ending degrees of the Mean-setting of the Age-indicator. So, the Industrial Revolution, Capitalism, the electronic technology, and the Globalization of the modern-day world are the intrinsic results of this Cardinal-sign Age of Capricorn, from about 1750 onwards. The Cardinal-sign Ages develop their intrinsic effects gradually, which culminate late in the Age.

For the Cardinal-sign, tropical Age of Libra, the most representative result, which fully manifested during the last 5 degrees of the Age (c.3400-3100 B.C.E.), was the advent of City-state Civilization itself, in the Tigris Euphrates Valley region, including written language.


The Fixed-sign tropical Ages are just the reverse: They exhibit their intrinsic results immediately, from the time of the ingress of the Mean-setting of the Age-indicator into the Fixed-sign.

For the tropical Age of Scorpio, that was about 3100 B.C.E., and the most representative manifestation was the sudden rise of the First Dynasty of Ancient Egypt under Osirian (Plutonian) Age-rulership. The World-altering effects of that tropical Fixed-sign Age are still reverberating in the Collective Unconscious.

Completing the tropical Ages pattern, the Mutable-sign Ages culminate in the middle Decant. The tropical Age of Sagittarius ran from about 1350 B.C.E. to about 400 A.D., which coincides with the Hellenistic Era.

Its most intrinsic astrological results manifested in the "Glory that was Greece" centered around c.500 B.C.E. The first Olympiad games date from 776 B.C.E., just a few years before the Mean-setting of the tropical Age-indicator ingressed the middle Decant.

Since the Ancient Greek culture epitomizes the tropical Age of Sagittarius, it's appropriate that the Mutable-Fire-sign became depicted as the Greek Centaur during the Age itself.

david starling said:

Completing the tropical Ages pattern, the Mutable-sign Ages culminate in the middle Decant. The tropical Age of Sagittarius ran from about 1350 B.C.E. to about 400 A.D., which coincides with the Hellenistic Era.

Its most intrinsic astrological results manifested in the "Glory that was Greece" centered around c.500 B.C.E. The first Olympiad games date from 776 B.C.E., just a few years before the Mean-setting of the tropical Age-indicator ingressed the middle Decant.

Since the Ancient Greek culture epitomizes the tropical Age of Sagittarius, it's appropriate that the Mutable-Fire-sign became depicted as the Greek Centaur during the Age itself.

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For the Sidereal, I think, that their “action” happens when it is 10 degrees into or 10 degrees leaving the sign, 3 of them have the same “10” one has “.10”. I base that on the numbers found on some depictions of The Key of Mysteries.

Opal said:

For the Sidereal, I think, that their “action” happens when it is 10 degrees into or 10 degrees leaving the sign, 3 of them have the same “10” one has “.10”. I base that on the numbers found on some depictions of The Key of Mysteries.

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Having studied the 2150 year sidereal Ages prior to discovering that there are 1750 year tropical Ages as well, I agree that the middle Decant correlates best in the case of the 3 sidereal Ages we have enough information on to make the correlations. No tropicalists i know of have attributed the Industrial Revolution or modern technology to the sidereal Age of Pisces, here in the last degrees of this current sidereal Age.

That's exactly the problem for tropicalists attempting to explain all the new technology and globalization using the sidereal Ages alone. Without realizing it's also the culmination of the tropical Age of Capricorn, it would have to mean that the siderealists have all gotten their own Zodiac's Sign-positions wrong, and the sidereal Aquarian Age must have started, effective immediately, centuries earlier than the siderealists say it will.

The world still goes on: some people believed June 21, 2020 (yesterday) was the end times. I believe we may officially entered the Aquarian age, we're in the between date of Jan 1st and Dec 13th (before a total solar eclipse and the great conjunction). Nov 3rd, election day and Jan 20, 2021, inauguration day is when the global superpower decides to elect a new American to better lead an increasingly troubled country. The tropical sun in Capricorn/Aquarius cusp on Jan 20th, the two signs ruled by the planet Saturn, but in sidereal it lies is 5' Capricorn. Here's a PDF about the 4-6' Capricorn range of "removal, rebellion and renewal" of American political leadership every 4 years (after leap year).

http://www.micheleadler.com/Julyrevisedblog09pdf.pdf

CapAquaPis said:

The world still goes on: some people believed June 21, 2020 (yesterday) was the end times. I believe we may officially entered the Aquarian age, we're in the between date of Jan 1st and Dec 13th (before a total solar eclipse and the great conjunction). Nov 3rd, election day and Jan 20, 2021, inauguration day is when the global superpower decides to elect a new American to better lead an increasingly troubled country. The tropical sun in Capricorn/Aquarius cusp on Jan 20th, the two signs ruled by the planet Saturn, but in sidereal it lies is 5' Capricorn. Here's a PDF about the 4-6' Capricorn range of "removal, rebellion and renewal" of American political leadership every 4 years (after leap year).

http://www.micheleadler.com/Julyrevisedblog09pdf.pdf

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Which Zodiac are you using for an Age of Aquarius? And, what astronomically measured point for the Age-indicator? That's really what it takes to calculate when the Age begins.

There is some influence from the approaching tropical Aquarian Age, and it's slooowly but surely on the increase, one minute of arc each year.

However, the tropical Age of Capricorn is still dominant, and Saturn remains sole Age-ruler until the Mean-setting of the tropical Age-indicator reaches tropical Aquarius in 2149.

Meanwhile, Uranian influence is getting stronger as well, in preparation for its Age-rulership of the tropical Aquarian Age.

The year 2033, which is the first year the True-setting of the tropical Age-indicator comes within less than 30 minutes of arc from tropical Aquarius, will be a jump in Aquarian and Uranian effects. And, the year 2047 will be a major turning point, when the True-setting of the tropical Age-indicator (temporarily) ingresses tropical Aquarius for the first time in over 20,000 years.

David, do you believe we're in the year 12,020 instead of 2020 AD? Aquarian age should be the 12,000th year if we're starting in the Leo age, from the point of Virgo. The birth of Jesus Christ should been in the year 10,000 instead of 1 BCE, which was in the Pisces age.

CapAquaPis said:

David, do you believe we're in the year 12,020 instead of 2020 AD? Aquarian age should be the 12,000th year if we're starting in the Leo age, from the point of Virgo. The birth of Jesus Christ should been in the year 10,000 instead of 1 BCE, which was in the Pisces age.

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Interesting idea, but my real area of expertise is the tropical Ages. The sidereal Ages do lend themselves to various interpretations.

Have you seen this idea anywhere? Always nice to find independent agreement!

david starling said:

Interesting idea, but my real area of expertise is the tropical Ages. The sidereal Ages do lend themselves to various interpretations.

Have you seen this idea anywhere? Always nice to find independent agreement!

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There's a "Holocene calendar year 12,020" scientific/natural/humanist calendar you can find on Google.

Thanks! I'll check it out.

CapAquaPis said:

David, do you believe we're in the year 12,020 instead of 2020 AD? Aquarian age should be the 12,000th year if we're starting in the Leo age, from the point of Virgo. The birth of Jesus Christ should been in the year 10,000 instead of 1 BCE, which was in the Pisces age.

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I believe the number to be higher. We all know, ancient civilizations existed, I think it is just difficult to keep track of the years, because of worldwide, continual global disasters, getting us to begin at 1, again, and again.

The Aquarian Age is beyond linear time. We can't really grasp the concept, because we're totally enmeshed in linear-time consciousness.

Notice that we're actually using linear-time to predict when "time's up" regarding linear-time consiousness itself.

The changeover to non-linear-time consciousness will definitively not be "business as usual" once the Aquarian Age takes full effect!
Aside from predicting that the Age of Aquarius will be highly individualistic, humanitarian, and "in tune" with the Earth and all its fauna and flora, that's about all we can know about it, from an Age of Capricorn perspective.

By far the worst result of tropicalists (who are naturally the ones sensing the power of their own Aquarian Age), not realizing that there IS a tropical Age of Aquarius upcoming following the tropical Age of Saturnian-ruled Capricorn, is that we've been completely misled by our use of the sidereal Zodiac to explain it.

The changeover from the sidereal, Neptunian-ruled Age of Pisces to the sidereal, Uranian-ruled Age of Aquarius will be smooth and easy. That's what fooled tropicalists into believing it would be a quick, harmonious transition into the next Age. To my sorrow, I believed it as well, until I finally understood the tropical situation:

Saturn won't back down, won't relinquish Age-authority without a fight, and is dangerous as all get out. Two World Wars, the Spanish Flu, the threat of nuclear war during the 1960's, the Vietnam War, then the "War on Terrorism"; and now, this deadly pandemic with fears of more to come--these are all part and parcel of Saturn's desperate response to becoming so close to losing the power that comes along with Age-rulership.

Saturn doesn't just rule fear. Saturn gives us a reason to be afraid.

The transition into the Aquarian Age was believed to be only from the agreeable, sidereal, Neptunian-oriented Age of Pisces, and to be happening very soon, like magic, even though the Vietnam War was raging at the time.

When it became obvious this wasn't going to be so, many lost faith in the Age of Aquarius. The mistaken idea that it had already begun, was just about new technology and global computer networking, and included war and pandemics--that really lowered the expectations.

The malefic, Saturnian and Capricornian 2020 is combination of 10 (10X2 is 20) terrible events at the same time:
1. The American Revolution (Far Left and Far Right, and Centers in the streets).
2. Civil War (Cultural Divide intensified between "Red" and "Blue" halves).
3. Spanish Flu (COVID-19 pandemic, greater than the AIDS pandemic).
4. The Great Depression (Coronavirus Recession, greater than the 2008-09 recession).
5. Dust Bowl (The Saharan dust cloud over the Southeast US is the new locust swarms in Africa and murder hornets in Northwest US).
6. World War II (the US vs China/Iran/other adversaries, may involve nuclear bombs, the religious right vs communist Left and oil sources).
7. Civil Rights Movement (Riots and protests against racial police brutality).
8. Watergate (Trump's averted impeachment, he rigged the electoral college).
9. End of the Cold War/Fall of Soviet Union (Trump's reelection increased the risks, but even when not re-elected, the US government is about to collapse).
and 10. Sept 11 (New York City hardest hit by COVID-19, also compared to Superstorm Sandy directly landed its eye to flooded Manhattan in 2012).
Some astrologers predict 2 more events they believe can occur sometime in 2020: A threat on President Trump's life and suspension of the US constitution.

CapAquaPis said:

The malefic, Saturnian and Capricornian 2020 is combination of 10 (10X2 is 20) terrible events at the same time:
1. The American Revolution (Far Left and Far Right, and Centers in the streets).
2. Civil War (Cultural Divide intensified between "Red" and "Blue" halves).
3. Spanish Flu (COVID-19 pandemic, greater than the AIDS pandemic).
4. The Great Depression (Coronavirus Recession, greater than the 2008-09 recession).
5. Dust Bowl (The Saharan dust cloud over the Southeast US is the new locust swarms in Africa and murder hornets in Northwest US).
6. World War II (the US vs China/Iran/other adversaries, may involve nuke bombs).
7. Civil Rights Movement (Riots and protests against racial police brutality).
8. Watergate (Trump's averted impeachment, he rigged the electoral college).
9. End of the Cold War/Fall of Soviet Union (Trump's reelection increased the risks, but even when not re-elected, the US government is about to collapse).
and 10. Sept 11 (New York City hardest hit by COVID-19, also compared to Superstorm Sandy directly landed its eye to flooded Manhattan in 2012).
Some astrologers predict 2 more events they believe can occur sometime in 2020: A threat on President Trump's life and suspension of the US constitution.

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Add in the amped-up power of Saturn as ruler of this current, tropical Age of Capricorn, and the severity of the astrological situation can be explained.

The key to fully understanding the astrological Ages is a new construction, which I'm calling the "Age Window". It's a measured, 30 degree interval along the Zodiacal circle--the length of a measured Sign-interval--which is anchored to a precessional, astronomical point.

The sheer momentum of an Age when it ends can't just be ignored as inconsequential, because it provides the very foundation for the next Age.

The Age Window designates both the foreground Age of a Sign in progress, which I'm referring to as "the Age of", using the Window's leading boundary; and, the overlapping, foundational, background Age of the Sign which preceded it as a foreground Age-sign, using the trailing boundary, 30 degrees behind.

Now, following mainly the Western line of history regarding the tropical Ages would seem limited in scope, were it not for the fact that the tropical Age of Capricorn has occasioned the Westernization of an entire "Global village".

The background, Hellenistic Age of tropical Sagittarius is still very much part of the tropical Age paradigm, even though the tropical foreground Age of Capricorn is currently dominant. And, the tropical Age of Capricorn will in turn, become background to the upcoming, dominant, foreground tropical Age of Aquarius.

I'm according 5 degrees Orb-Influence to the Age-window, meaning that there's a lead-in period, a gradual transition into each new Age, beginning at 25 degrees of the current Age-sign, rather than an abrupt start with no prior effect. The Orb-Influence increases by degree, until ingress is achieved.

The leading point of the Age-window, which is the "Age-indicator", must actually ingress the new Age-sign before the new Age-sign and ruler become dominant over the previous Age-sign and ruler.

So, although Saturn, the current Age-ruler of this tropical Age of Capricorn, is already facing significant competition from the Uranian rulership of Aquarius because the Age-indicator is now in the final degrees prior to ingress, Saturn remains the dominant Age-ruler.