Its a question I've never seriously even pondered, but will try to and update my thoughts. Meanwhile, thinking further o
f Neptune in Pisces (
vs Neptune in Aquarius before and-now? in Sidereal) - The Year 2012 when Trayvon Martin was murdered - and of course now in the year 2020 we have the innocent jogger Ahmaud Arberry who was murdered also in February like Travyon was, the collective mindset who fully in progress in particular signs be it Tropical or Sidereal which helps sway the mindset for Neptune. In 2012 we have a humanitarian President, in Aquarius mindset of Barack Obama. Neptune was in Aquarius when he was elected. It moved into Pisces when Travyon was assassinated. See "Stars over Washington" chart of the event: (* the collective mindset was in the process of a huge change)
This was brought to mind watching the Sunday, AMJoy today, in which her guest the elder statesman/ex newsreporter Dan Rather and she talked about the general populace and their willingness to accept so many preposterous unbelievable things as their current President tries to convince them is real when clearly it is not. This preponderance has increased dramatically over the past decade at least since Trayvon's murder and President Obama's expression of sadness and despair he felt over the event.
The
National Polls in 2012 went something like this:
Sadness, even outrage was felt according to Republican conservatives like Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich after the story came out. ONLY 15% of the polled citizens said "
He (George Zimmerman) acted in self-defense" when just a few weeks later, the numbers changed dramatically - Why would this be?
In a few weeks, the numbers went overwhelmingly to
40% for self-defense vs 24% to cold blooded murder.
Fast forward 2020: Amoud Arbery -of Beaumont Georgia - (***the state which coincidence has it, - borders Florida where the 2012 murder of Travyon Martin took place) There are many white supremacists in Georgia, perhaps having come out from the closet in the past 4 years more then before when they simply didn't pretend to hate the black President. NOW we have tropical Neptune full fledged Pisces....
On Sunday, Feb. 23, 2020 shortly after 1:14 PM,
he was killed in a neighborhood a short jog away from his home after being confronted by a white man and his son in their pickup trucks with rifles. The older male was the father of the younger one and had actually been an ex police officer on the same Georgia Police that eventually was forced to arrest him for murder along with the son. This forcing came because of the public clamor for justice after 2 long months of torture for the parents of Ahmoud when the killers had used (along with help from the someone in the police hierarchy?) the "
Stand your ground law" they have in Georgia, the same law they had in Florida with the other assassination of a young black man in 2012. It wasn't until Ahmoud's 26th Solar Return on May 7th that the two men were finally arrested and taken into custody once a video tape of the incident was examined thoroughly. Note: The "Stand your Ground" is basically one that can be manipulated as it was in these two cases for the purpose of white supremacists nefarious deeds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Ahmaud_Arbery
In the Rulership Book for horary - I believe Neptune "collectively" represents the black race or minorities, ones who are more vulnerable in society, but if anyone knows where it could be in this book, please let me know (its a confusing mix) or countries, races, etc for both planets & signs)
Meanwhile, I'd like to ask if its okay for me to PARK these few charts for in case there are other
insights into the "idea" of Neptune's collective impact one way or another?
I'm still tossing it around in my rather empty head.
We are after all, changing eras, or on the "cusp" of era change...along with all the hope that the concept implies.
*planet Neptune for this chart 2020 Feb. right on the MC at 25AQUARIUS (Sidereal)
I thought it noteworthy, to experiment with my default and leave in the 3 Moirae (death markers) in this case, squaring 8th house Pluto-Saturn in the Sidereal house. In my Maraka book, I try and introduce not the 3 Moira, but the concept of deaths found in whole house Vedic charts. The 2nd, 7th, 12th are all important as Maraka houses, and the 8th as in tropical, is very important too, as the "type" of death which may ensue.
In this case, I'd say "its right on the money"...even though its considered "anathema" both to use the 3 Moirae and the outers for most astros, Thats how I learn, by Uranian change.
Doing and thinking "outside the box".
Neptune in AQUARIUS - Sidereal 2020 event:
NOW, to compare
Neptune in Pisces 2020 for the Tropical chart -
Neptune doesn't particularly stand out for me at all - (and I always use tropical in everyday work, btw) -
What stands out would be the 29th critical degree Rising, with the Nodes nearby, and that scary Mars in late Sagittarius, (a military sign) - whose own ruler Jupiter is in FALL in Capricorn.
natal:
his tropical chart:
I hope its okay to park these here, as the "idea" of it all came from the "idea" of a Discovery of Astro Ages and the comparison or musing over the difference between the Sidereal & Tropical when it came to the AGES and potentialities.
