Am I a bad person?

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heidy26

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Can you please upload the chart ?

To do that, go to astro.com and either make a chart unregistered or make an account and then add the data.
 

waybread

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No chart will show whether or not someone is a "bad" person. "Badness" is measured by deeds, not by the life potential at birth that is the horoscope.
 

waybread

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Scorpios have no more "bad" people than any other sun sign.

What you have, sachapac, is Saturn square sun. This is a big recipe for feelings of inadequacy. In contrast, most of your chart looks like a life without serious difficulties. So thank Saturn for "sharing" and then don't pay much attention to him.

Scorpios know they operate on a far more emotionally intense level than the other signs. But unless you've murdered someone, robbed a bank, or its moral equivalent; no, you are not a bad person.
 

ALRESCHA

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Yea I get that - not taking anything too deep or literally.

I'm trying to figure out what makes me tick and where my influences are based and i suppose whether i am to be truly challenged on a cosmic level - through lessons i need to master or whatever..

Again, i say "challenged" with subtle and light humour

Nothing much to add to what everyone said, but, I have to say, I love the jolly enchanting chart! Venus, Mercury, Pluto, Neptune, the Node, Uranus, Jupiter, Mars, the Sun-some sweet magic you can work there! Your Mercury is on my Sun and your Pluto closely conjuncts my Mercury :)

It's just what Waybread said, those particular misdeeds are what make people bad. :)

Your lesson is the tiny little Sun square. Whenever you try to radiate the flaws of the Sun, Saturn won't hesitate to correct you, but it's OK. I feel for the Moon inconjunction too, so: *big hug* Take good care of yourself, OK? :)
 

waybread

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Of course you're not a fundamentally bad person. A chart merely shows your potential at birth. God doesn't make mistakes.

However, with Saturn square sun-Mars, you probably go through life with self-esteem issues. The sun is your core sense of self, and Saturn oftentimes shows where we feel inadequate and not-good-enough. The square shows a conflict between sun and Saturn. Also, your chart suggests a fair bit of ambition (via a type of aspect called a quintile,) so if you don't live up to your achievement standards, you are apt to be very hard on yourself.

When you get these negative feelings about yourself, thank them for sharing. Then go on and appreciate all the great things you have going for yourself.
 
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kshantaram

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libra asc, artistic aptitudes, social, objective,

wavering decision making, stormy anger when provoked.
asc lord venus debilated 12th self-centred,
possessive spouse, spouse worship perhaps.

jup lord of elevation-pisces for venus conjunct, jup-venus virgo

debilation of venus cancelled, gradual pace of growth,
tending to foreign lands.


jup-moon virgo 11th, perfectionist, critical thinking,
may be choosy about friends,

teaching-facilitating-advisory-audit aptitudes and gains,
pisces 6th inclined to teaching-learning work environments.


leo 11th inimical for libra asc,
income-gains-rewards-friendships
under stress-delay-tension, not smoothgoing


moon 10th lord/cancer over 11th virgo, gains from career,
but under stress-delay, inimical leo cusp.


jup aspect own pisces 6th protective of health
and employment prospects.


jup trine aspect cap 4th affecting domestic comforts,
mother's health, property matters, knees-lungs etc


sat airy acq own 4th, tech aptitude, aptitude for public admin,
reformist, innovative, good for property matters, sat lord 4th too.

sat debilated aspect over aries 7th affecting marriage,
sat aspect leo 10th stress in career matters,
sat aspect scorpio 2nd affecting family-finances


sun-mars-mer scorpio 2nd research-occult aptitudes,

reserved, sentimental, suspicious, volatile finances.


separative ketu over cancer 11th, hypersensitive,
prone to career-job changes.


currently jup transit natal moon-jup-virgo 11th for gains,
promoting teaching-facilitating-advisroy skills-income etc,

sooner now rahu joins jup/moon-virgo tending to rise-fall,
to care yr ahead.

ketu transit pisces 6th prone to health issues, job separation, etc
jup aspect pisces-ketu 6th protective till mid-Aug 016 or so.


wishing luck from 9th lord mer over scorpio 2nd,
research-occult aptitudes, sun-mer-mars scorpio,


sat moved to sag 3rd for initiative-progress coming 2yrs,
sat aspect own acq 5th protective of education-position

but may not be good for health of children,
sat transit sq moon-jup under stress however,
sat aspect moon-jup virgo 11th restraining income-gains.


past 2.5yrs sat transit sun-mer-scorpio 2nd
family-finances etc under stress,
while promoting research-occult interests.


chart with research, teaching-advisory,reformist-innovative aptitudes,
results-rewards under stress-delay-tension, not smooth going,
self-centered, reserved, suspicious, critical,
wavery decision making, stormy anger, objective, love of justice-fairness.


hope generic observations-inputs enable reflect further, pick as relevant,

could share specific feedbacks per return.
hope find insights useful. could share agreements-disagreements.



kshantaram
 
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Jaded

Premium Member
Thats super in depth, thank you. I find it difficult to put all of that together - What would you say are the over arching themes of my chart?

You mentioned "under stress" and the term"lord" repeated throughout, do you mind explaining whether the reference to stress means this is a development area for me? As well as explain what the term "lord" means?

thank you for any explanation - thanks in advance :) x

1st House (1st Lord) Aries, Mesha, Mars
2nd House (2nd Lord) Taurus, Vrishbha, Venus
3rd House (3rd Lord) Gemini, Mithuna, Mercury
4th House (4th Lord) Cancer, Karaka, Moon
5th House (5th Lord) Leo, Simha, Sun
6th House (6th Lord) Virgo, Kanya, Mercury
7th House (7th Lord) Libra, Tula, Venus
8th House (8th Lord) Scorpio, Vrishchakra, Mars
9th House (9th Lord) Sagittarius, Dhanu, Jupiter
10th House (10th Lord) Capricorn, Makara, Saturn
11th House (11th Lord) Aquarius, Kumbha, Saturn
12th House (12th Lord) Pisces, Meena, Jupiter

This is Vedic Astrology.
Rahu and Ketu in Vedic. Astronomically, they do not exist in the universe.

"Internet Reference"...(When Moon moves from South to North in its orbit and crosses Sun’s path – the incision point is called Rahu or Dragon’s Head. When Moon transits towards South and crosses the Sun’s path – the incision point is called Ketu or Dragon’s Tail. This point is at 180 degree distance from the previously mentioned incision point (Rahu).
 

Jaded

Premium Member
This isn't something that I am at all familiar with, keen to learn anything new however at this stage I know nothing of it. Perhaps I shall have a venture into Vedic astrology :)

I was helping you to understand what a Lord is. I'm learning Vedic currently as well. Western is my first study. I'm studying both right now. I like learning for the sake of knowledge. My sun and Asc sign (in Western) are both in Sagittarius haha :biggrin:

Here is a link on a youtube channel I frequently watch. This guy is great! Watching videos helps me learn. I'm a visual learner lol. I've learned so much on Vedic from his videos and he is entertaining. Hope this helps honey :biggrin:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAhSM44HoLZQrjGFttqvI5A
 
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muchacho

Well-known member
Hey :) Im hoping for some help navigating my way around my chart with the aim of understanding strong influences and how everything works together. I appreciate any light anyone can shed:)

Im just trying to understand me really

thank you in advance to all:)

- 1st Nov 1991
- 04.24AM
- Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
With Moon in Virgo and Sun in Scorpio, you are probably very hard on yourself.
 

kshantaram

Premium Member
libra asc, artistic aptitudes, social, objective,

wavering decision making, stormy anger when provoked.
asc lord venus debilated 12th self-centred,
possessive spouse, spouse worship perhaps.

jup lord of elevation-pisces for venus conjunct, jup-venus virgo

debilation of venus cancelled, gradual pace of growth,
tending to foreign lands.


jup-moon virgo 11th, perfectionist, critical thinking,
may be choosy about friends,

teaching-facilitating-advisory-audit aptitudes and gains,
pisces 6th inclined to teaching-learning work environments.


leo 11th inimical for libra asc,
income-gains-rewards-friendships
under stress-delay-tension, not smoothgoing


moon 10th lord/cancer over 11th virgo, gains from career,
but under stress-delay, inimical leo cusp.


jup aspect own pisces 6th protective of health
and employment prospects.


jup trine aspect cap 4th affecting domestic comforts,
mother's health, property matters, knees-lungs etc


sat airy acq own 4th, tech aptitude, aptitude for public admin,
reformist, innovative, good for property matters, sat lord 4th too.

sat debilated aspect over aries 7th affecting marriage,
sat aspect leo 10th stress in career matters,
sat aspect scorpio 2nd affecting family-finances


sun-mars-mer scorpio 2nd research-occult aptitudes,

reserved, sentimental, suspicious, volatile finances.


separative ketu over cancer 11th, hypersensitive,
prone to career-job changes.


currently jup transit natal moon-jup-virgo 11th for gains,
promoting teaching-facilitating-advisroy skills-income etc,

sooner now rahu joins jup/moon-virgo tending to rise-fall,
to care yr ahead.

ketu transit pisces 6th prone to health issues, job separation, etc
jup aspect pisces-ketu 6th protective till mid-Aug 016 or so.


wishing luck from 9th lord mer over scorpio 2nd,
research-occult aptitudes, sun-mer-mars scorpio,


sat moved to sag 3rd for initiative-progress coming 2yrs,
sat aspect own acq 5th protective of education-position

but may not be good for health of children,
sat transit sq moon-jup under stress however,
sat aspect moon-jup virgo 11th restraining income-gains.


past 2.5yrs sat transit sun-mer-scorpio 2nd
family-finances etc under stress,
while promoting research-occult interests.


chart with research, teaching-advisory,reformist-innovative aptitudes,
results-rewards under stress-delay-tension, not smooth going,
self-centered, reserved, suspicious, critical,
wavery decision making, stormy anger, objective, love of justice-fairness.


hope generic observations-inputs enable reflect further, pick as relevant,

could share specific feedbacks per return.
hope find insights useful. could share agreements-disagreements.



kshantaram


hope the moderated reading helps clarify!
 
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