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brainpuddle

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Here for some good discussion, and as always, more data. -puts on a lab coat and starts jotting on a clipboard while unapologetically staring at you-

Been studying on and off for about seventeen years. Went through some weird intellectual and emotional journeys about believing in a superstitious concept, but I'm quite settled into my views now. I'm very interested in its biological basis, I 100% believe that astrology is a misrepresented neurological science. Someday I'm hoping to have the resources to run tests, such as oxytocin levels in Cancers, or a study of amygdala anomalies in fire signs. In the meantime, it's been nice to see science going in that direction, albeit unrecognized as astrology, with more and more studies showing inherent biological and observed psychological differences based on season of birth, that tend to correlate with the conclusions astrology has been positing for hundreds or thousands of years.

I also probably practice differently than most of you, since for me, studying astrology has been a long running test of which aspects hold up and which don't. I completely ignore planets, I've found no apparent basis for them, and I find some of their supposed purposes in the chart redundant and needlessly obscuring. I focus on Sun/Moon/Ascendant, almost exclusively. I also believe in the Houses, mostly but not exclusively as an extension of the Ascendant, not including the planets within them. And I believe in Lilith, but within somewhat of a different framework than is typically applied to it. No planets, no nodes, no other celestial bodies. I barely **** with degrees, but I'm learning. lol So I expect a lot of the talk here will go over my head, but I hope I can contribute some good ideas anyways, from astrology as I've come to understand it.
 

JUPITERASC

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Here for some good discussion, and as always, more data. -puts on a lab coat and starts jotting on a clipboard while unapologetically staring at you-

Been studying on and off for about seventeen years. Went through some weird intellectual and emotional journeys about believing in a superstitious concept, but I'm quite settled into my views now. I'm very interested in its biological basis, I 100% believe that astrology is a misrepresented neurological science. Someday I'm hoping to have the resources to run tests, such as oxytocin levels in Cancers, or a study of amygdala anomalies in fire signs. In the meantime, it's been nice to see science going in that direction, albeit unrecognized as astrology, with more and more studies showing inherent biological and observed psychological differences based on season of birth, that tend to correlate with the conclusions astrology has been positing for hundreds or thousands of years.

I also probably practice differently than most of you, since for me, studying astrology has been a long running test of which aspects hold up and which don't. I completely ignore planets, I've found no apparent basis for them, and I find some of their supposed purposes in the chart redundant and needlessly obscuring. I focus on Sun/Moon/Ascendant, almost exclusively. I also believe in the Houses, mostly but not exclusively as an extension of the Ascendant, not including the planets within them. And I believe in Lilith, but within somewhat of a different framework than is typically applied to it. No planets, no nodes, no other celestial bodies. I barely **** with degrees, but I'm learning. lol So I expect a lot of the talk here will go over my head, but I hope I can contribute some good ideas anyways, from astrology as I've come to understand it.
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conspiracy theorist

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You're definitely different, and that's a good thing to see.

Hope you don't ghost after your third post. Looking forward to seeing your brand of technique.
 

brainpuddle

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Thanks guys.

I'm not really the ghosting type. More the getting banned type. But I'll try to keep my overly critical nature in my pants. lol
 

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Thirdteenth

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Namaste �� enjoy your time and don’t speak getting banned into existence friend. It might just happen. Also you got me just a little..a tiny bit curious from reading what you wrote.
 

brainpuddle

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I appreciate the concern. I don't really subscribe to it though. If I get banned, it won't be because I made a self-deprecating joke, it'll be because I argued with the wrong person. lol Can't help myself. Burning urge to speak my mind, ya know?
But nice to meet you too. ^_^

Which part are you curious about?
 

Thirdteenth

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Ouuuuuuu! Omg! I know exactly how you are going to feel love :) but I think you got this in the bag. Seriously don’t get banned. Only if you knew...ugh...admi- let me not even finish that word. Sheesh. Ouuu...I’m getting so kiddy. Don’t mind it please. Anyways...I like the way you write...but most importantly the fact you barley using any astrology to learn astrology, if that makes any sense. I know I can sound like I’m speaking a different language, dialect friend, dialect. I hope you get what I mean.
 

conspiracy theorist

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Thanks guys.

I'm not really the ghosting type. More the getting banned type. But I'll try to keep my overly critical nature in my pants. lol

No doubt. Just looking through the new posts you've already been in a couple of debates and have a couple of posts deleted by our indefatigable admin... you move quickly that's for sure.

As to your brand of astrology, it's similar to the western sidereal school a la Fagan & Bradley, now currently spearheaded by Jim Eschelman. They also focus primarily on the signs of the luminaries, with planetary influences lower on the hierarchy. They have a fairly active and tightknit group over on their forum solunars... you may want to head there to check out what they have to say.

Curious about your hypothesis regarding the amygdala anomalies of fire signs, whether or not you want to share it here, a relevant thread or not at all is of course up to you.
 

brainpuddle

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Ouuuuuuu! Omg! I know exactly how you are going to feel love :) but I think you got this in the bag. Seriously don’t get banned. Only if you knew...ugh...admi- let me not even finish that word. Sheesh. Ouuu...I’m getting so kiddy. Don’t mind it please. Anyways...I like the way you write...but most importantly the fact you barley using any astrology to learn astrology, if that makes any sense. I know I can sound like I’m speaking a different language, dialect friend, dialect. I hope you get what I mean.
lol I like the way you write too. It's cute.

but most importantly the fact you barley using any astrology to learn astrology, if that makes any sense.
I think it does. I guess through the lens of standard astrological practices, I could be called a specialist.
 

brainpuddle

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No doubt. Just looking through the new posts you've already been in a couple of debates and have a couple of posts deleted by our indefatigable admin... you move quickly that's for sure.

As to your brand of astrology, it's similar to the western sidereal school a la Fagan & Bradley, now currently spearheaded by Jim Eschelman. They also focus primarily on the signs of the luminaries, with planetary influences lower on the hierarchy. They have a fairly active and tightknit group over on their forum solunars... you may want to head there to check out what they have to say.

Curious about your hypothesis regarding the amygdala anomalies of fire signs, whether or not you want to share it here, a relevant thread or not at all is of course up to you.
Hm. Hadn't heard of it. Thanks for the tip, I'll check that out. I might have an easier time discussing some of my theories there. This forum is starting to make me feel terribly controversial. lol

The amygdala theory is still in its development, I've been reading a lot more about that part of the brain lately, especially with the newer studies coming out that imply a wider influence than neurologists previously believed the amygdala to have. But at some point I'll definitely make a thread for discussion of biological theory in general, once I have time to really lay out my thoughts on it all. I'm pretty jazzed to see if anyone else is interested in this.
 

conspiracy theorist

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Ha, I'm not sure you'd be accepted with open arms there, as you'd probably be challenged at every step on the count of you reading signs that are 23° out from where they have determined them. Close-knit is the operative word, for both good and ill.

I like the multidisciplinary approach. I think the best Astrologers are something of Renaissance Men/Women, which allows them to venture interpretations on various areas of life with more mastery and depth.

I'm not too keen on the overly regulated mod style in the astrological threads. It's setting up a precedent where fresh ideas are stifled if the poster sharing doesn't fit neatly into the conception that said mod has of a thread. On the other hand, conspiracy and highly inflammatory political threads are allowed to proliferate on the forum. I'm not sure if the terrafirming is intended but that's sure how things are being shaped.

One loophole is to create threads in the chat forum with titles that could be creatively interpreted, and discuss your ideas there since that's the most lax place in terms of moderation. Or, you could leave which would be a shame since you'd be among a long line of dynamic posters who were turned off by the constant intrusiveness of the so-called regulations.

As one with 5 planets and their ascendant in fire, I'm interested in hearing a discussion that goes into the mechanics of how that element operates, since it doesn't seem to inspire that kind of treatment usually.
 

brainpuddle

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Ha, I'm not sure you'd be accepted with open arms there, as you'd probably be challenged at every step on the count of you reading signs that are 23° out from where they have determined them. Close-knit is the operative word, for both good and ill.
lol You're probably right. But I don't mind being challenged in the slightest, as long as people are willing to really discuss things earnestly, in depth. The people over there don't have to like me or my ideas for us to learn from eachother, especially if there are already some commonalities in our practices. But maybe I'm being overly optimistic still.

I like the multidisciplinary approach. I think the best Astrologers are something of Renaissance Men/Women, which allows them to venture interpretations on various areas of life with more mastery and depth.
Me too, to an extent. I believe all avenues should be explored, and people can learn from experience what does and doesn't work for them. A purist in anything has no comparative basis, either to invalidate stagnant assumptions or to expand the lens through which they can understand their own style of practice. Even things that turn out to be wrong are experience gained.

I'm not too keen on the overly regulated mod style in the astrological threads. It's setting up a precedent where fresh ideas are stifled if the poster sharing doesn't fit neatly into the conception that said mod has of a thread. On the other hand, conspiracy and highly inflammatory political threads are allowed to proliferate on the forum. I'm not sure if the terrafirming is intended but that's sure how things are being shaped.
Yeah, I know what you mean. This place is a little intimidating to be honest. For one, I've been here two days and I've already had about half a dozen posts deleted, majority of which were absolutely on topic, so I really can't say why someone felt the need to purge them. Maybe they just didn't like what I had to say? Or maybe they misunderstood it and didn't ask, so they assumed it wasn't related. I don't know. On top of that, I feel I can't really just say my own interpretation of things without an older user hounding me about how my version is invalid, instead of just engaging in discussion with me about the topic at hand. Or ignoring me, if that's what they feel like. And it's endlessly perplexing to me that so many users here seem so averse to discussing basics, like the luminaries and the nature of the signs themselves. I feel like if I try to say something like "Cancer tends to be prone to x-trait/concept", it gets immediately shot down, with little explanation beyond variations of "that's not my astrology". I mean, I get that you guys focus less on luminaries and more on planets/contacts/etc, that's totally fine, but what even is astrology if we can't talk about the themes of the signs themselves? lol
And yeah, the pages of hostile conspiracy threads are.... wow. I'm just gonna stay out of that part of the site.
I understand this community has a long history behind it and it's own way of doing things, but aside from you and Thirteen here, the forum has felt pretty unwelcoming.
But I'm hoping this has just been a bad first impression, and things will smooth out as I meet more users here.

One loophole is to create threads in the chat forum with titles that could be creatively interpreted, and discuss your ideas there since that's the most lax place in terms of moderation. Or, you could leave which would be a shame since you'd be among a long line of dynamic posters who were turned off by the constant intrusiveness of the so-called regulations.
It's not that easy to get rid of me. lol
Thanks for the tip about chat, though. But it is a shame that it's sometimes difficult to use the other subforums.

As one with 5 planets and their ascendant in fire, I'm interested in hearing a discussion that goes into the mechanics of how that element operates, since it doesn't seem to inspire that kind of treatment usually.
Oo, I'd love to! I'd actually say I understand fire the least, but that just lights my fire -cringes at myself- even more. I feel myself heading into a binge of studying fire signs specifically, so this'll be the perfect time to bounce ideas off other people.
 
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wan

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Thanks Puddle! You seem like a very easygoing person.

I think it's definitely valid to want to talk about the basics of the signs, the "big 3"..etc. For example, my Moon is in Scorpio, and a lot of the textbook descriptions of this placement apply to me, and I see nothing wrong with wanting to discuss these. Yes aspects to Moon and her placement matter too, however nothing changes the fact that my particular moon is in Scorpio, and that fundamentally this confers certain traits on me, regardless of other competing factors.

So puddle, if you want to discuss just signs or the luminaries, you are very welcome to do so with me. In fact, I am very intrigued by your placement. I am betting with myself that your Mercury is probably in Gemini, which would explain your articulate writing style. Its so easy and flowing. Not something one would normally expect of a typical Taurus.
 

brainpuddle

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Thanks Puddle! You seem like a very easygoing person.

I think it's definitely valid to want to talk about the basics of the signs, the "big 3"..etc. For example, my Moon is in Scorpio, and a lot of the textbook descriptions of this placement apply to me, and I see nothing wrong with wanting to discuss these. Yes aspects to Moon and her placement matter too, however nothing changes the fact that my particular moon is in Scorpio, and that fundamentally this confers certain traits on me, regardless of other competing factors.

So puddle, if you want to discuss just signs or the luminaries, you are very welcome to do so with me. In fact, I am very intrigued by your placement. I am betting with myself that your Mercury is probably in Gemini, which would explain your articulate writing style. Its so easy and flowing. Not something one would normally expect of a typical Taurus.
You seem like a pretty easygoing person too, I'm glad I have people here I can chat with casually. ^_^

Exactly! It's totally cool to want to go into more depth, but I personally find the very basic concepts of astrology super interesting. I guess it's because I come at it from a basis of psychology, since that was my passion even before I found astrology. So to me, simply saying that you have a Scorpio Moon has so many interesting implications to explore in and of itself. I mean, a person's deep, subconscious needs are nothing to shake a stick at. There's a lot there. The human mind is endlessly fascinating. <3

Actually my Mercury is in Taurus too. lol
I have a friend on this forum who's currently trying to guess my Moon, Ascendant, and Lilith, so I'm not going to post those publicly just yet. But I'm happy to answer any other questions about my chart, and I can message you those three in private, if you want.
If you don't mind me asking, what are your Sun and Ascendant?
 

wan

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You seem like a pretty easygoing person too, I'm glad I have people here I can chat with casually. ^_^

Exactly! It's totally cool to want to go into more depth, but I personally find the very basic concepts of astrology super interesting. I guess it's because I come at it from a basis of psychology, since that was my passion even before I found astrology. So to me, simply saying that you have a Scorpio Moon has so many interesting implications to explore in and of itself. I mean, a person's deep, subconscious needs are nothing to shake a stick at. There's a lot there. The human mind is endlessly fascinating. <3

Actually my Mercury is in Taurus too. lol
I have a friend on this forum who's currently trying to guess my Moon, Ascendant, and Lilith, so I'm not going to post those publicly just yet. But I'm happy to answer any other questions about my chart, and I can message you those three in private, if you want.
If you don't mind me asking, what are your Sun and Ascendant?

I approach astrology from the perspective of psychology, too. I think it's fascinating!

My Sun is in Leo at 9, my ascendant is in Pisces at 12. I have a somewhat angular chart, because I have two planets almost exactly conjunct my two angles (Neptune on Midheaven, Saturn on descendant). I also have Mars in 4th house, although not conjunct nadir. My house emphasis is the 6th, it has my Sun in it, which is the final dispositor of my chart.

Feel very free to PM me your details if you desire, puddle. It's entirely up to you. Or you can continue keeping your placements a secret, I like it when people keep me guessing XD. Must be that Mars in Gemini of mine.
 

brainpuddle

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I approach astrology from the perspective of psychology, too. I think it's fascinating!

My Sun is in Leo at 9, my ascendant is in Pisces at 12. I have a somewhat angular chart, because I have two planets almost exactly conjunct my two angles (Neptune on Midheaven, Saturn on descendant). I also have Mars in 4th house, although not conjunct nadir. My house emphasis is the 6th, it has my Sun in it, which is the final dispositor of my chart.

Feel very free to PM me your details if you desire, puddle. It's entirely up to you. Or you can continue keeping your placements a secret, I like it when people keep me guessing XD. Must be that Mars in Gemini of mine.
pfft I just realized you were the same person I talked to about this just yesterday. lol My bad. So many new people. It's a lot to keep track of.
 
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