love-thinking
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I've been noticing how pluto aspects manifest in the charts of friends and people I know of. I would define a plutonian only if you have sun, moon, ascendent in hard aspect to pluto or sun or moon in the 8th house and of course scorpio.
The easy aspects seem more like a gift to me. You're in tune with things of a psychological nature but it is not something you have to learn and overcome. Nor do you have an urgent interest in those things.
In regards to mars and venus in hard aspect to pluto, I think this manifests with venus in relation to your relationships and with mars pluto in terms of sports, action, and maybe sex.
I feel like I've noticed a pattern when it comes to sun-pluto/sun in scorpio native as wanting to yield some sort of power over other people. Hilary Cliinton and margeret thatcher are examples of a plutonian sun.
They do get jealous and often are competetive but how their jealousy is shaped depends on other factors in their chart.
If they have sun-pluto with venus-pluto, they often can be very jealous individuals who know how to hide this fact very very well. If they are venusian as well as have the above with perhaps some leo placements, they feel extremely threatened by attractive members of their same sex especially when they are in a relationship. But they are also attractive themselves, but you no matter how attractive you are you'll always be outshined. This is because they understand from an intuitive level the power of beauty.
What they should understand though is the power of attachment, a magnetic and interesting personality, and learn to let go.
-Knew someone-who took down pictures of friends she thought of as competition when they added a guy on instagram.
If you have a plutonian who is has placements in less superficial signs, they won't be jealous of other people's looks, they will be jealous predominantly about the time you spend with other people if you are in a relationship/friendship with these people.
Moon-pluto aspects in my opinion are the major trauma aspects. And I am talking about hard aspects. These people tend to be **** on by other people. People tell them their secrets and also they get to see other people's dark sides. People have been the worst to them and unlike the sun-plutos or the scorpio suns, they probably are much more private because of how they were treated by other people. They can be cold as ice after they are traumatized and extremely secretive. Some trauma they went through are so disgusting that it takes years to forget such events. This in my opinion is the worst placement to have aside from moon-saturn.
They also tend to attract jealousy, obession, hate from other women, or they themselves may be prone to be jealous or competetive of other women. Powerful mother, who she/he is karmicly linked to and will be so for probably the rest of their life. Girls with this placement(moon in scorp, 8th house moon, and moon hard aspect pluto) tend to play out persophone much more than the other pluto aspects. And these natives also tend to be the mysterious, silent types more than the other types .
You also have to look at lords. If your 10th house luminary(moon goes into the 8th house conjunct pluto), this is going to show more in your public appearance and how you carry yourself. If your fourth house lord sun enters scorpio conjunct pluto, the men in your family played a vital role in who you are(this could be a good way or bad way) but whatever way they have shaped you, it will have a lasting effect and somehow it will give you power.
The easy aspects seem more like a gift to me. You're in tune with things of a psychological nature but it is not something you have to learn and overcome. Nor do you have an urgent interest in those things.
In regards to mars and venus in hard aspect to pluto, I think this manifests with venus in relation to your relationships and with mars pluto in terms of sports, action, and maybe sex.
I feel like I've noticed a pattern when it comes to sun-pluto/sun in scorpio native as wanting to yield some sort of power over other people. Hilary Cliinton and margeret thatcher are examples of a plutonian sun.
They do get jealous and often are competetive but how their jealousy is shaped depends on other factors in their chart.
If they have sun-pluto with venus-pluto, they often can be very jealous individuals who know how to hide this fact very very well. If they are venusian as well as have the above with perhaps some leo placements, they feel extremely threatened by attractive members of their same sex especially when they are in a relationship. But they are also attractive themselves, but you no matter how attractive you are you'll always be outshined. This is because they understand from an intuitive level the power of beauty.
What they should understand though is the power of attachment, a magnetic and interesting personality, and learn to let go.
-Knew someone-who took down pictures of friends she thought of as competition when they added a guy on instagram.
If you have a plutonian who is has placements in less superficial signs, they won't be jealous of other people's looks, they will be jealous predominantly about the time you spend with other people if you are in a relationship/friendship with these people.
Moon-pluto aspects in my opinion are the major trauma aspects. And I am talking about hard aspects. These people tend to be **** on by other people. People tell them their secrets and also they get to see other people's dark sides. People have been the worst to them and unlike the sun-plutos or the scorpio suns, they probably are much more private because of how they were treated by other people. They can be cold as ice after they are traumatized and extremely secretive. Some trauma they went through are so disgusting that it takes years to forget such events. This in my opinion is the worst placement to have aside from moon-saturn.
They also tend to attract jealousy, obession, hate from other women, or they themselves may be prone to be jealous or competetive of other women. Powerful mother, who she/he is karmicly linked to and will be so for probably the rest of their life. Girls with this placement(moon in scorp, 8th house moon, and moon hard aspect pluto) tend to play out persophone much more than the other pluto aspects. And these natives also tend to be the mysterious, silent types more than the other types .
You also have to look at lords. If your 10th house luminary(moon goes into the 8th house conjunct pluto), this is going to show more in your public appearance and how you carry yourself. If your fourth house lord sun enters scorpio conjunct pluto, the men in your family played a vital role in who you are(this could be a good way or bad way) but whatever way they have shaped you, it will have a lasting effect and somehow it will give you power.
