lostinstars
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Hi,
This is a thread to continue to discuss on fate vs free will in traditional astrology which brought forth questions where there needs to be comparison of traditional vs modern astrology. As the moderator suggested I created this new thread.
https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=127790
The assumption comes from the doctrines on which traditional astrology was developed by older civilizations. Traditional astrology clearly holds the position that fate has a lot of say on the way events unfold and humans have little free will, planets are seen as living gods, hence the methods to earn their favour.
Modern astrology though may be good for doing psychotherapy on yourself and your clients, it does not seem to offer a lot in terms of having control or coming to terms with the unseen forces in one's life. Tainted with new age beliefs it gives assurance that humans have more control in their lives, any bad thing that happens to them is just a learning experience, things will improve etc. Moreover most people are drawn to modern astrology because of its appeal in explaining superficial things depending on planetary combinations. For eg., Scorpio risings and Scorpios can't stop beating their drums on how special they are on their looks and their sex appeal. (I'm a Scorpio rising)
Vedic astrology though fatalistic offers remedies to make one's life slightly better but again some astrologers believe they work while some don't on the clause that if remedies are not working for you then they were never meant to work for you in the first place, again fatalistic.
Wouldn't you be better off if you know how much role fate has and it is up to you on the amount of effort you want to put for anything vis-à-vis other systems which say keep working, things will come and you keep wondering till when?
This is a thread to continue to discuss on fate vs free will in traditional astrology which brought forth questions where there needs to be comparison of traditional vs modern astrology. As the moderator suggested I created this new thread.
https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=127790
and also
I am curious where the assumption comes from that either modern astrology or traditional astrology would be more likely to suggest that you can 'stop working for things' ?
The assumption comes from the doctrines on which traditional astrology was developed by older civilizations. Traditional astrology clearly holds the position that fate has a lot of say on the way events unfold and humans have little free will, planets are seen as living gods, hence the methods to earn their favour.
Modern astrology though may be good for doing psychotherapy on yourself and your clients, it does not seem to offer a lot in terms of having control or coming to terms with the unseen forces in one's life. Tainted with new age beliefs it gives assurance that humans have more control in their lives, any bad thing that happens to them is just a learning experience, things will improve etc. Moreover most people are drawn to modern astrology because of its appeal in explaining superficial things depending on planetary combinations. For eg., Scorpio risings and Scorpios can't stop beating their drums on how special they are on their looks and their sex appeal. (I'm a Scorpio rising)
Vedic astrology though fatalistic offers remedies to make one's life slightly better but again some astrologers believe they work while some don't on the clause that if remedies are not working for you then they were never meant to work for you in the first place, again fatalistic.
If you are confused by this point, I am still bothered by my inability to change some things and I do not want to remain confused listening to conflicting ideologies of vedic astrology nor modern western astrology.lostinstars said:Being born in India, my upbringing reeked of karma and fate from childhood that people readily accept their inability to change things and this has bothered me for a very long time. I'm curious about what ancient astrologers have to say.
Wouldn't you be better off if you know how much role fate has and it is up to you on the amount of effort you want to put for anything vis-à-vis other systems which say keep working, things will come and you keep wondering till when?
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