Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influence

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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.


The image of the Lion is masculine, diurnal, solid, terrestrial, quadrupedal, feral,
royal, vocal, semi-infertile, passionate, fierce, running and of the north wind.
It indicates action, reputation, superiors, harsh matters, quarrels, those who are imperious,
stable, haters of evil, beneficent and inflated with lofty thoughts.

Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Leo
are large, distinguished, independent, reliable, just, despising flattery, haughty,
irascible, daring, with fine face, smooth, small ears because the Lion rarely listens to the talk of others,
higher upper part of the body, thin-set teeth, rugged, flushy and bright.
The front is robust, but the back is weaker.
Domicile of the Sun, it controls the sides, the circulatory system, the nervous system and the eyesight,
especially the right eye, and it indicates blindness on account of the Coma Star Cluster.
It is like-empowered with Aries and like-ascending with Virgo,
tall in the Northern Hemisphere and short in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is summery, hot and dry in the north, and wintry, cold and moist in the south.
Leo commands Libra in the north and obeys it in the south.
Leo controls Italy, Gaul, Apulia, Phoenicia, Chaldaea and Orchenia. T
he head and Regulus are rising up to the 6th degree, the front up to the 11th, the belly up to the 18th,
the back up to the 24th, and the tail up to the 30th.

The first 6° belong to Jupiter - elevation, friendships with superiors
The next 5° belong to Venus - good fortune, friendships with superiors
The next 7° belong to Saturn - magnitude, of many years, infertile
The next 6° belong to Mercury - intelligent, some are winners of games
The final 6° belong to Mars - misfortune, dangers, passionate

Head - Saturn and moderately Mars
Throat - Saturn and moderately Mercury
Regulus - Jupiter and Mars
Hip and Denebola - Saturn and Venus
Thighs - Venus and moderately Mercury


Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius%20Valens%20entire.pdf


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Assuming local skies are clear

then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15


MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of LEO

LEO is the domicile aka home of THE SUN





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MOON IS CURRENTLY TRAVELLING SIDEREAL LEO
THIRD DECAN



hexagon SIDEREAL LIBRA MERCURY MARS ssembly


tetragon SIDEREAL SCORPIO SUN VENUS assembly


trigon SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS JUPITER SATURN ASSEMBLY


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FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI


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Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.


MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies



there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha




Siriusly, you should move 25 degrees backwards, not days.
Another handy method is
that if a planet is less than 25 degrees in the sign,
add 5 degrees to it,
while moving it in the previous sign.
This way you can find any positions in less than couple seconds.
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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.



The image of the Maiden is feminine, nocturnal, double-bodied, human, winged,
common, eloquent, infertile, incomplete, handsome, standing and of the south wind.
It indicates exchanges, affairs, eloquence, trade and mysticism.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Virgo
are large, well-proportioned and graceful, articulate, meticulous, popular, mystical, temperate,
with fine face, fine straight body, round beautiful bright eyes, drawn nostrils, fine lips
because the Maiden is charming in conversation, exchanging, thick chin, bright hair, useful, industrious,
pure, modest, well-educated, lovers of learning, always ready to do everything when provoked,
writers, physicians, business expediters, administrators of goods, stewards, secretaries, accountants, workers in fields,
actors, astrologers, spendthrifts in youth,
but who become prosperous over the course of time.
Domicile and exaltation of Mercury, depression of Venus, it controls the abdomen,
the vestibular system, the gustatory system and the auditory system.
It is equinoctial, like-empowered with Pisces, like-ascending with Leo
and like-engirding with Gemini, tall in the Northern Hemisphere and short in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is autumnal, cold and dry for the north, and vernal, hot and moist for the south.
Virgo controls Babylonia, Mesopotamia, Assyria, Hellas, Achaia and Crete.
The head and the shoulders are rising up to the 7th degree,
the hands, the abdomen and the wings up to the 17th,
the lower parts up to the 21st, the robe up to the 28th,
the feet and Spica up to the 30th.

The first 7° belong to Mercury - teachers, philosophers, mathematicians
The next 10° belong to Venus - cheerful, freedom from oppression and care
The next 4° belong to Jupiter - notable and with friendships
The next 7° belong to Mars - brilliant, some belong to the military or tribunals
The final 2° belong to Saturn - ups and downs, notable, risks
Head and Zavijava - Mercury and moderately Mars
Southern Wing and Girdles - Mercury and moderately Venus
Vindemiatrix - Saturn and Mercury
Feet - Mercury and moderately Mars
Spica - Venus and moderately Mars


Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf

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Assuming local skies are clear

then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15


MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of VIRGO


VIRGO is the domicile aka home of STILBON


MOON HAS INGRESS[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]ED [/FONT]

0[FONT=Times New Roman, serif][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]°[/FONT][/FONT] FIRST DECAN


SIDEREAL VIRGO




hexagon SIDEREAL SCORPIO SUN VENUS assembly


tetragon SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS JUPITER SATURN assembly





mLbW1OF.png





FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI


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Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.




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MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha




Siriusly, you should move 25 degrees backwards, not days.
Another handy method is
that if a planet is less than 25 degrees in the sign,
add 5 degrees to it,
while moving it in the previous sign.
This way you can find any positions in less than couple seconds.



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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.



The image of the Maiden is feminine, nocturnal, double-bodied, human, winged,
common, eloquent, infertile, incomplete, handsome, standing and of the south wind.
It indicates exchanges, affairs, eloquence, trade and mysticism.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Virgo
are large, well-proportioned and graceful, articulate, meticulous, popular, mystical, temperate,
with fine face, fine straight body, round beautiful bright eyes, drawn nostrils, fine lips
because the Maiden is charming in conversation, exchanging, thick chin, bright hair, useful, industrious,
pure, modest, well-educated, lovers of learning, always ready to do everything when provoked,
writers, physicians, business expediters, administrators of goods, stewards, secretaries, accountants, workers in fields,
actors, astrologers, spendthrifts in youth,
but who become prosperous over the course of time.
Domicile and exaltation of Mercury, depression of Venus, it controls the abdomen,
the vestibular system, the gustatory system and the auditory system.
It is equinoctial, like-empowered with Pisces, like-ascending with Leo
and like-engirding with Gemini, tall in the Northern Hemisphere and short in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is autumnal, cold and dry for the north, and vernal, hot and moist for the south.
Virgo controls Babylonia, Mesopotamia, Assyria, Hellas, Achaia and Crete.
The head and the shoulders are rising up to the 7th degree,
the hands, the abdomen and the wings up to the 17th,
the lower parts up to the 21st, the robe up to the 28th,
the feet and Spica up to the 30th.

The first 7° belong to Mercury - teachers, philosophers, mathematicians
The next 10° belong to Venus - cheerful, freedom from oppression and care
The next 4° belong to Jupiter - notable and with friendships
The next 7° belong to Mars - brilliant, some belong to the military or tribunals
The final 2° belong to Saturn - ups and downs, notable, risks
Head and Zavijava - Mercury and moderately Mars
Southern Wing and Girdles - Mercury and moderately Venus
Vindemiatrix - Saturn and Mercury
Feet - Mercury and moderately Mars
Spica - Venus and moderately Mars


Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf

i8ihkMV.png



Assuming local skies are clear

then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15


MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of VIRGO


VIRGO is the domicile aka home of STILBON


MOON IS TRAVELLING THIRD DECAN


SIDEREAL VIRGO




hexagon SIDEREAL SCORPIO SUN


tetragon SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS VENUS JUPITER SATURN assembly





mLbW1OF.png





FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI


wIHu1Y9.png





Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.




images





MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha




Siriusly, you should move 25 degrees backwards, not days.
Another handy method is
that if a planet is less than 25 degrees in the sign,
add 5 degrees to it,
while moving it in the previous sign.
This way you can find any positions in less than couple seconds.



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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.


The image of the Scales is masculine, diurnal, changeable, human, economical,
judicial, common, semi-eloquent, semi-fertile, sitting and of the east wind.
It indicates disputes, affairs, crafts, trade, changes, superiors, violent matters,
those who are judges, lawyers, merchants, the supervisors of crops,
vineyards, olive groves, aromatics, homesteads, measures, posts, crafts and the grain supply.

Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Libra are well-proportioned and graceful,
notable, just, supervisors, artisans, encountering many vicissitudes because the tipping of the Scales,
covetous, average, youthful, with fine face, fine figure, beautiful eyes,
poetical, thick lips, beautiful hair and white.

Domicile of Venus, exaltation of Saturn, depression of the Sun, it controls the hips and the buttocks,

the olfactory system, the reproductive organs and the secondary sex characteristics.
It is like-empowered with Aquarius, like-ascending with Cancer
and like-engirding with Taurus, tall in the Northern Hemisphere and short in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is autumnal, cold and dry in the north, and vernal, hot and moist in the south.
Libra obeys Leo in the north and commands it in the south.
Libra controls Bactriana, Casperia, Serica, Thebais, Oasis and Troglodytia.

The hand and the handle are rising up to the 6th degree,
the balance beam up to the 14th, the chains and Alpha Librae up to the 21st,
the weighing pans up to the 28th, and the base up to the 30th.
The first 6° belong to Saturn - destructive, grief from loved ones, reductions of wealth
The next 8° belong to Mercury - versatile, fertile
The next 7° belong to Jupiter - allotments, inheritances, gifts of land
The next 7° belong to Venus - good fortune, kind, musical, clean
The final 2° belong to Mars - strength, leadership, abundance

Extremities - Jupiter and Mercury
Middle - Saturn and moderately Mars


Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf

venus_rxcycle3.gif



Assuming local skies are clear

then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15


MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of LIBRA


LIBRA is the domicile aka home of VENUS



MOON has INGRESSED 0[FONT=Times New Roman, serif][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]°[/FONT][/FONT]

FIRST DECAN SIDEREAL LIBRA





assembled with SIDEREAL LIBRA MARS MERCURY assembly




hexagon SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS VENUS JUPITER SATURN assembly




FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI




Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.





venus-cycle-annotated_john-p-pratt.png




MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha



Ishtar+Star.jpg
 

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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.


The image of the Scales is masculine, diurnal, changeable, human, economical,
judicial, common, semi-eloquent, semi-fertile, sitting and of the east wind.
It indicates disputes, affairs, crafts, trade, changes, superiors, violent matters,
those who are judges, lawyers, merchants, the supervisors of crops,
vineyards, olive groves, aromatics, homesteads, measures, posts, crafts and the grain supply.

Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Libra are well-proportioned and graceful,
notable, just, supervisors, artisans, encountering many vicissitudes because the tipping of the Scales,
covetous, average, youthful, with fine face, fine figure, beautiful eyes,
poetical, thick lips, beautiful hair and white.

Domicile of Venus, exaltation of Saturn, depression of the Sun, it controls the hips and the buttocks,

the olfactory system, the reproductive organs and the secondary sex characteristics.
It is like-empowered with Aquarius, like-ascending with Cancer
and like-engirding with Taurus, tall in the Northern Hemisphere and short in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is autumnal, cold and dry in the north, and vernal, hot and moist in the south.
Libra obeys Leo in the north and commands it in the south.
Libra controls Bactriana, Casperia, Serica, Thebais, Oasis and Troglodytia.

The hand and the handle are rising up to the 6th degree,
the balance beam up to the 14th, the chains and Alpha Librae up to the 21st,
the weighing pans up to the 28th, and the base up to the 30th.
The first 6° belong to Saturn - destructive, grief from loved ones, reductions of wealth
The next 8° belong to Mercury - versatile, fertile
The next 7° belong to Jupiter - allotments, inheritances, gifts of land
The next 7° belong to Venus - good fortune, kind, musical, clean
The final 2° belong to Mars - strength, leadership, abundance

Extremities - Jupiter and Mercury
Middle - Saturn and moderately Mars


Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf

venus_rxcycle3.gif



Assuming local skies are clear

then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15


MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of LIBRA


LIBRA is the domicile aka home of VENUS



MOON IS TRAVELLING

SECOND DECAN SIDEREAL LIBRA





assembled with SIDEREAL LIBRA MARS MERCURY assembly




hexagon SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS VENUS JUPITER SATURN assembly




FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI




Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.





venus-cycle-annotated_john-p-pratt.png




MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha



Ishtar+Star.jpg
 

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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.


The image of the Scales is masculine, diurnal, changeable, human, economical,
judicial, common, semi-eloquent, semi-fertile, sitting and of the east wind.
It indicates disputes, affairs, crafts, trade, changes, superiors, violent matters,
those who are judges, lawyers, merchants, the supervisors of crops,
vineyards, olive groves, aromatics, homesteads, measures, posts, crafts and the grain supply.

Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Libra are well-proportioned and graceful,
notable, just, supervisors, artisans, encountering many vicissitudes because the tipping of the Scales,
covetous, average, youthful, with fine face, fine figure, beautiful eyes,
poetical, thick lips, beautiful hair and white.

Domicile of Venus, exaltation of Saturn, depression of the Sun, it controls the hips and the buttocks,

the olfactory system, the reproductive organs and the secondary sex characteristics.
It is like-empowered with Aquarius, like-ascending with Cancer
and like-engirding with Taurus, tall in the Northern Hemisphere and short in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is autumnal, cold and dry in the north, and vernal, hot and moist in the south.
Libra obeys Leo in the north and commands it in the south.
Libra controls Bactriana, Casperia, Serica, Thebais, Oasis and Troglodytia.

The hand and the handle are rising up to the 6th degree,
the balance beam up to the 14th, the chains and Alpha Librae up to the 21st,
the weighing pans up to the 28th, and the base up to the 30th.
The first 6° belong to Saturn - destructive, grief from loved ones, reductions of wealth
The next 8° belong to Mercury - versatile, fertile
The next 7° belong to Jupiter - allotments, inheritances, gifts of land
The next 7° belong to Venus - good fortune, kind, musical, clean
The final 2° belong to Mars - strength, leadership, abundance

Extremities - Jupiter and Mercury
Middle - Saturn and moderately Mars


Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf

venus_rxcycle3.gif



Assuming local skies are clear

then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15


MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of LIBRA


LIBRA is the domicile aka home of VENUS



MOON IS TRAVELLING
THIRD DECAN SIDEREAL LIBRA





assembled with SIDEREAL LIBRA MARS MERCURY assembly




hexagon SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS VENUS JUPITER SATURN assembly




FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI




Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.





venus-cycle-annotated_john-p-pratt.png




MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha



Ishtar+Star.jpg
 

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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.



The image of the Scorpion is feminine, nocturnal, solid, terrestrial,
creeping, servile, silent, fertile, poisonous, unchangeable, fierce, thievish,
with many limbs, lying and of the west wind.
It indicates inquiries, deception, lawsuits, fights and mysticism.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Scorpio
are disproportioned and awkward, tricky, turbulent, base, covetous,
lying, bitter because the Scorpion is stingy, competitive, powerful,
with short head, delicate voice, round light green eyes, sharp nose,
lower lip bent, coarse hair, dark, military commanders, generals, destroyers of property,
thieves, murderers, traitors, burglars and haters of their own families.
The front is weaker, but the back is robust.
Domicile of Mars, depression of Moon,

it controls the reproductive organs, the muscular system, the urinary system,
the lower gastrointestinal tract.
It causes skin diseases on account of the rough skin and blindness on account of the sting.
It is like-empowered with Capricorn, like-ascending with Gemini
and like-engirding with Aries, and medium in both Hemispheres.
It is autumnal, cold and dry for the north, and vernal, hot and moist for the south.
Scorpio obeys Cancer for the north and commands it for the south.
Scorpio controls Metagonitis, Mauritania, Gaetulia, Syria, Comangene and Cappadocia.

The claws are rising up to the 7th degree, the head up to the 11th,
the body and Antares up to the 19th, the back up to the 24th,
and the sting up to the 30th.

The first 7° belong to Mars - embezzlements, dangers, travel
The next 4° belong to Venus - fortune, those who advance unexpectedly through others
The next 8° belong to Mercury - abiding, some become bankers and administrators
The next 5° belong to Jupiter - increase, advancement, inheritances
The final 6° belong to Saturn - necessity, constraint, infertile

Forehead - Mars and moderately Saturn
Body - Mars and moderately Jupiter
Joints - Saturn and moderately Venus
Sting - Mars and Mercury
M7 - Mars and the Moon


Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf

wIHu1Y9.png


Assuming local skies are clear


then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of SCORPIO



SCORPIO is the domicile aka home of PYROEIS





MOON HAS INGRESSED 0[FONT=Times New Roman, serif][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]°[/FONT][/FONT]

FIRST DECAN SIDEREAL SCORPIO




assembled with SIDEREAL SCORPIO SUN




i8ihkMV.png





FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI




Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.


siderealDay.jpg


5K4kLFj.png




MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha


mLbW1OF.png






64904-004-F8FDFDB3.jpg
 

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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen

scorpius.png



Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.



The image of the Scorpion is feminine, nocturnal, solid, terrestrial,
creeping, servile, silent, fertile, poisonous, unchangeable, fierce, thievish,
with many limbs, lying and of the west wind.
It indicates inquiries, deception, lawsuits, fights and mysticism.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Scorpio
are disproportioned and awkward, tricky, turbulent, base, covetous,
lying, bitter because the Scorpion is stingy, competitive, powerful,
with short head, delicate voice, round light green eyes, sharp nose,
lower lip bent, coarse hair, dark, military commanders, generals, destroyers of property,
thieves, murderers, traitors, burglars and haters of their own families.
The front is weaker, but the back is robust.
Domicile of Mars, depression of Moon,

it controls the reproductive organs, the muscular system, the urinary system,
the lower gastrointestinal tract.
It causes skin diseases on account of the rough skin and blindness on account of the sting.
It is like-empowered with Capricorn, like-ascending with Gemini
and like-engirding with Aries, and medium in both Hemispheres.
It is autumnal, cold and dry for the north, and vernal, hot and moist for the south.
Scorpio obeys Cancer for the north and commands it for the south.
Scorpio controls Metagonitis, Mauritania, Gaetulia, Syria, Comangene and Cappadocia.

The claws are rising up to the 7th degree, the head up to the 11th,
the body and Antares up to the 19th, the back up to the 24th,
and the sting up to the 30th.

The first 7° belong to Mars - embezzlements, dangers, travel
The next 4° belong to Venus - fortune, those who advance unexpectedly through others
The next 8° belong to Mercury - abiding, some become bankers and administrators
The next 5° belong to Jupiter - increase, advancement, inheritances
The final 6° belong to Saturn - necessity, constraint, infertile

Forehead - Mars and moderately Saturn
Body - Mars and moderately Jupiter
Joints - Saturn and moderately Venus
Sting - Mars and Mercury
M7 - Mars and the Moon


Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf

wIHu1Y9.png


Assuming local skies are clear


then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of SCORPIO



SCORPIO is the domicile aka home of PYROEIS





MOON IS TRAVELLING

THIRD DECAN SIDEREAL SCORPIO




assembled with SIDEREAL SCORPIO SUN




i8ihkMV.png





FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI




Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.


siderealDay.jpg


5K4kLFj.png




MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha


mLbW1OF.png






64904-004-F8FDFDB3.jpg
 

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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen

sag_milkyway.jpg



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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.



The image of the Archer is masculine, diurnal, double-bodied, terrestrial, human,
quadrupedal, royal, eloquent, infertile, enigmatic, incomplete,
with many limbs, running and of the north wind.
It indicates governorship, action, fights, gifts and disputes.

Depending on the placement of the houseruler,
men born under the influence of Sagittarius are large, robust, well-proportioned and graceful,
notable, ambitious, generous, versatile, changeable, prominent, mysterious
because the Archer is unintelligible, gifted, crafty, with bald forehead, round small eyes,
intentional, long-bearded, athletic, bragging, reddish, kingly,
judges, just, loving their brothers and their friends,
superior over their enemies, losing much of their possessions,
gaining them back over the course of time.
The front is weaker, but the back is robust.
Domicile of Jupiter, it controls the thighs, the reproductive system,

the digestive system and the integumentary system.
It causes blindness on account of the arrow.
It is tropical, like-ascending with Taurus and like-engirding with Pisces,
and medium in both Hemispheres.
It is wintry, cold and moist for the north, and summery, hot and dry for the south.
Sagittarius obeys Gemini for the north and commands it for the south.
Sagittarius controls Tyrrhenia, Celtica, Spain, Arabia Felix, Elymais and Iberia.
The arrow, the bow and the grip are rising up to the 12th degree,
the head up to the 17th, the back up to the 21st,
the cloak up to the 26th, and the tail up to the 30th.

The first 12° belong to Jupiter - powers, leaders, lords of life and death, undaunted, kingly
The next 5° belong to Venus - flow, distress, passionate
The next 4° belong to Mercury - notable, fond of frivolous conversation, well-grown
The next 5° belong to Saturn - high spirits
The final 4° belong to Mars - travel, dangers, lawsuits

Arrow Point - Mars and the Moon
Bow and Grip - Jupiter and Mars
Forehead - Mars and the Sun
Cloak and Back - Jupiter and moderately Mercury
Feet - Jupiter and Saturn
Tail - Venus and moderately Saturn



Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf

phaethon-1-638.jpg








Assuming local skies are clear


then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of SAGITTARIUS




SAGITTARIUS is the domicile aka home of PHAETHON


MOON HAS INGRESSED
0[FONT=Times New Roman, serif][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]° [/FONT]FIRST [/FONT] DECAN

SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS




assembled with SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS VENUS JUPITER SATURN assembly


hexagon SIDEREAL LIBRA MERCURY MARS assembly




i8ihkMV.png



FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI




wIHu1Y9.png






Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.




s-l300.jpg






MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha



mLbW1OF.png
 

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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen

sag_milkyway.jpg



5K4kLFj.png



Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.



The image of the Archer is masculine, diurnal, double-bodied, terrestrial, human,
quadrupedal, royal, eloquent, infertile, enigmatic, incomplete,
with many limbs, running and of the north wind.
It indicates governorship, action, fights, gifts and disputes.

Depending on the placement of the houseruler,
men born under the influence of Sagittarius are large, robust, well-proportioned and graceful,
notable, ambitious, generous, versatile, changeable, prominent, mysterious
because the Archer is unintelligible, gifted, crafty, with bald forehead, round small eyes,
intentional, long-bearded, athletic, bragging, reddish, kingly,
judges, just, loving their brothers and their friends,
superior over their enemies, losing much of their possessions,
gaining them back over the course of time.
The front is weaker, but the back is robust.
Domicile of Jupiter, it controls the thighs, the reproductive system,

the digestive system and the integumentary system.
It causes blindness on account of the arrow.
It is tropical, like-ascending with Taurus and like-engirding with Pisces,
and medium in both Hemispheres.
It is wintry, cold and moist for the north, and summery, hot and dry for the south.
Sagittarius obeys Gemini for the north and commands it for the south.
Sagittarius controls Tyrrhenia, Celtica, Spain, Arabia Felix, Elymais and Iberia.
The arrow, the bow and the grip are rising up to the 12th degree,
the head up to the 17th, the back up to the 21st,
the cloak up to the 26th, and the tail up to the 30th.

The first 12° belong to Jupiter - powers, leaders, lords of life and death, undaunted, kingly
The next 5° belong to Venus - flow, distress, passionate
The next 4° belong to Mercury - notable, fond of frivolous conversation, well-grown
The next 5° belong to Saturn - high spirits
The final 4° belong to Mars - travel, dangers, lawsuits

Arrow Point - Mars and the Moon
Bow and Grip - Jupiter and Mars
Forehead - Mars and the Sun
Cloak and Back - Jupiter and moderately Mercury
Feet - Jupiter and Saturn
Tail - Venus and moderately Saturn



Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius%20Valens%20entire.pdf

phaethon-1-638.jpg








Assuming local skies are clear


then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of SAGITTARIUS




SAGITTARIUS is the domicile aka home of PHAETHON


MOON IS TRAVELLING SECOND DECAN

SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS




assembled with SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS VENUS JUPITER SATURN assembly


hexagon SIDEREAL LIBRA MERCURY MARS assembly




i8ihkMV.png



FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI




wIHu1Y9.png






Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.




s-l300.jpg






MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha



mLbW1OF.png
 

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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen

sag_milkyway.jpg



5K4kLFj.png



Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.



The image of the Archer is masculine, diurnal, double-bodied, terrestrial, human,
quadrupedal, royal, eloquent, infertile, enigmatic, incomplete,
with many limbs, running and of the north wind.
It indicates governorship, action, fights, gifts and disputes.

Depending on the placement of the houseruler,
men born under the influence of Sagittarius are large, robust, well-proportioned and graceful,
notable, ambitious, generous, versatile, changeable, prominent, mysterious
because the Archer is unintelligible, gifted, crafty, with bald forehead, round small eyes,
intentional, long-bearded, athletic, bragging, reddish, kingly,
judges, just, loving their brothers and their friends,
superior over their enemies, losing much of their possessions,
gaining them back over the course of time.
The front is weaker, but the back is robust.
Domicile of Jupiter, it controls the thighs, the reproductive system,

the digestive system and the integumentary system.
It causes blindness on account of the arrow.
It is tropical, like-ascending with Taurus and like-engirding with Pisces,
and medium in both Hemispheres.
It is wintry, cold and moist for the north, and summery, hot and dry for the south.
Sagittarius obeys Gemini for the north and commands it for the south.
Sagittarius controls Tyrrhenia, Celtica, Spain, Arabia Felix, Elymais and Iberia.
The arrow, the bow and the grip are rising up to the 12th degree,
the head up to the 17th, the back up to the 21st,
the cloak up to the 26th, and the tail up to the 30th.

The first 12° belong to Jupiter - powers, leaders, lords of life and death, undaunted, kingly
The next 5° belong to Venus - flow, distress, passionate
The next 4° belong to Mercury - notable, fond of frivolous conversation, well-grown
The next 5° belong to Saturn - high spirits
The final 4° belong to Mars - travel, dangers, lawsuits

Arrow Point - Mars and the Moon
Bow and Grip - Jupiter and Mars
Forehead - Mars and the Sun
Cloak and Back - Jupiter and moderately Mercury
Feet - Jupiter and Saturn
Tail - Venus and moderately Saturn



Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf

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Assuming local skies are clear


then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of SAGITTARIUS




SAGITTARIUS is the domicile aka home of PHAETHON


MOON IS TRAVELLING THIRD DECAN

SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS




assembled with SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS VENUS JUPITER SATURN assembly


hexagon SIDEREAL LIBRA MERCURY MARS assembly




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FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI




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Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.




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MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha



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JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen

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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.


The image of the Goat-Horned One is feminine, nocturnal, changeable, watery, amphibian
servile, vocal, infertile, enigmatic, passionate, thievish, incomplete, missing limbs
two-natured, outrageous, sitting and of the south wind.
It indicates inquiries, accusations, separations, water and property.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Capricorn are small, burdened
deviant, lying, pretentious, inventive, unattractive, mysterious because the Goat-Horned One is unintelligible
curious, with sloping face, fine figure, beautiful black eyes, black hair, thick lips, sharp chin
lean, misfortunate, toilsome, unfortunate mistakes, lame, shameful, two-faced
pretending goodness and sincerity, always criticizing, fickle, brutal, criminal, warped
bad, fond of jokes, insomniacs, hunchbacks, sculptors, farmers, with nautical bent and waterside trades
lovers of pleasures, business expediters, initiates in mysteries, plotters of great deeds
and guardians of secret matters.
Domicile of Saturn, exaltation of Mars, depression of Jupiter, it controls the knees, the skeletal system
the lymphatic system and the immune system. It causes skin diseases on account of the rough skin
and blindness on account of the spine. It is like-empowered with Scorpio,
like-ascending with Aries and like-engriding with Aquarius, short in the Northern Hemisphere
and tall in the Southern Hemisphere. It is wintry, cold and moist for the north
and summery, hot and moist for the south. Capricorn obeys Taurus for the north
and commands it for the south. Capricorn controls India, Ariana, Gedrosia, Thrace, Macedonia and Illyria.

The front is rising up to the 7th degree, the head up to the 14th, the belly up to the 22nd
the back up to the 26th, and the tail up to the 30th.

The first 7° belong to Mercury - abdominal birth, dangers, intelligent
The next 7° belong to Jupiter - notable, preservative power
The next 8° belong to Venus - luxury, passionate
The next 4° belong to Saturn - summons, harsh, authoritative
The final 4° belong to Mars - concealments, bonds, flights

Horns - Venus and moderately Mars
Mouth - Saturn and moderately Venus
Feet and Belly - Mars and Mercury
Tail - Saturn and Jupiter


Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf


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Assuming local skies are clear


then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of CAPRICORN




CAPRICORN is the domicile aka home of PHAENON


MOON INGRESSED
FIRST DECAN SIDEREAL CAPRICORN




hexagon
SIDEREAL SCORPIO SUN

tetragon SIDEREAL LIBRA MERCURY MARS assembly




VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE

is viewable at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI



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Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.





wIHu1Y9.png





MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha



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