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JUPITERASC
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VIOLENCE BRINGS SUFFERING
NON-VIOLENCE HELPS REMOVE SUFFERING
We did have enough wealth in Tibet.
We were not rich as a nation or race,
but we were not really the Tibet in the sense of 'pre-ta'
as which the early Indians described Tibet,
looking at the Himalayan regions of Tibet, not the whole of Tibet.
That includes northern Ladakh
. 'Pre-ta' is the hungry ghost land.
So that shows you how poor that was.
The word Tibet came out of 'pre-ta.'
Pre becomes “T” and then the British pronounced that as Tibet.
The early Indians used to call it 'pre-ta.'
So we were not that poor in the 1950s,
but still we were not rich at all.
However, there was definitely sufficient wealth.
You can’t say that nobody ever went hungry,
but hunger was not something usually known.
So it was a very comfortable life, materially
and spiritually we were very rich.
The Tibetans had sacrificed their very powerful military might,
which almost was similar to Ghengis Khan
and was able to challenge Ghengis Khan.
However, Tibetans really thought carefully
and considered the military solution would get them nowhere.
Not only it doesn’t end suffering, but invites more suffering.
Unfortunately that happens to be true in our life.
We saw it, we have had so many experiences of war.
Really, if you look back, we have fought wars after wars.
Since World War II till today, how many wars were we engaged in?
So many, but each one of them, who lost or gained, who knows?
But we have carried with us a tremendous amount of scars
and sufferings.
Very recently we had a war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Whoever won the war, doesn’t matter.
I don’t think anyone won or lost, but somehow
everybody had to stop because they could no longer go on killing.
But how many wounded people we had, how many lives were lost
and we call the wounded people heroes and give them a pat on the shoulder
and we have to, because they deserve it very definitely,
but it is suffering. Unnecessary suffering is added by war.
What did we gain? Probably nothing.
Out of the Iraq war, what did we gain? Nothing, honestly, nothing.
We were just able to topple and kill Saddam Hussein,
but he was going to die anyway.
If we had left him alone, he was not going to live for a 100 years.
He was going to go anyway.
Or maybe he would have lasted a bit longer,
like Fidel Castro in Cuba.
Everybody thought he was going to die and he is still there.
But other than that, more or less he was going to go.
But how many people died for nothing.
How many Americans, young kids, and most precious kids to their parents
and in their neighborhood and county, so many of them were killed
and others came back with one leg or without legs.
All this is suffering. Violence brings that result.
That’s what the early Tibetan realized, because of Buddhism.
No matter who you may be, warrior type of people
[that’s what violence does].
We have in Tibet the epics of Gesar, which are all about war after
war,
about the early times in Tibet, half history, half exaggerated.
They are commonly accepted, Such a warrior attitude was completely abandoned
and that brought joy and happiness to the people in that period.
It also is very difficult to achieve results with violence.
Anything you want to achieve, social change and so on,
is much better achieved through love and compassion, through non-violence.
It is difficult, but that difficulty brings joy to the people
and removes suffering.
At least it does not create additional suffering.
That way it will give you a little harmony and peace and joy,
at least materially. That’s what we notice.
~ Gelek Rimpoche, Jewel Heart Ann Arbor
DHARMA ON THE JEWEL HEART BLOG
https://www.jewelheart.org/blog/
NON-VIOLENCE HELPS REMOVE SUFFERING
We did have enough wealth in Tibet.
We were not rich as a nation or race,
but we were not really the Tibet in the sense of 'pre-ta'
as which the early Indians described Tibet,
looking at the Himalayan regions of Tibet, not the whole of Tibet.
That includes northern Ladakh
. 'Pre-ta' is the hungry ghost land.
So that shows you how poor that was.
The word Tibet came out of 'pre-ta.'
Pre becomes “T” and then the British pronounced that as Tibet.
The early Indians used to call it 'pre-ta.'
So we were not that poor in the 1950s,
but still we were not rich at all.
However, there was definitely sufficient wealth.
You can’t say that nobody ever went hungry,
but hunger was not something usually known.
So it was a very comfortable life, materially
and spiritually we were very rich.
The Tibetans had sacrificed their very powerful military might,
which almost was similar to Ghengis Khan
and was able to challenge Ghengis Khan.
However, Tibetans really thought carefully
and considered the military solution would get them nowhere.
Not only it doesn’t end suffering, but invites more suffering.
Unfortunately that happens to be true in our life.
We saw it, we have had so many experiences of war.
Really, if you look back, we have fought wars after wars.
Since World War II till today, how many wars were we engaged in?
So many, but each one of them, who lost or gained, who knows?
But we have carried with us a tremendous amount of scars
and sufferings.
Very recently we had a war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Whoever won the war, doesn’t matter.
I don’t think anyone won or lost, but somehow
everybody had to stop because they could no longer go on killing.
But how many wounded people we had, how many lives were lost
and we call the wounded people heroes and give them a pat on the shoulder
and we have to, because they deserve it very definitely,
but it is suffering. Unnecessary suffering is added by war.
What did we gain? Probably nothing.
Out of the Iraq war, what did we gain? Nothing, honestly, nothing.
We were just able to topple and kill Saddam Hussein,
but he was going to die anyway.
If we had left him alone, he was not going to live for a 100 years.
He was going to go anyway.
Or maybe he would have lasted a bit longer,
like Fidel Castro in Cuba.
Everybody thought he was going to die and he is still there.
But other than that, more or less he was going to go.
But how many people died for nothing.
How many Americans, young kids, and most precious kids to their parents
and in their neighborhood and county, so many of them were killed
and others came back with one leg or without legs.
All this is suffering. Violence brings that result.
That’s what the early Tibetan realized, because of Buddhism.
No matter who you may be, warrior type of people
[that’s what violence does].
We have in Tibet the epics of Gesar, which are all about war after
war,
about the early times in Tibet, half history, half exaggerated.
They are commonly accepted, Such a warrior attitude was completely abandoned
and that brought joy and happiness to the people in that period.
It also is very difficult to achieve results with violence.
Anything you want to achieve, social change and so on,
is much better achieved through love and compassion, through non-violence.
It is difficult, but that difficulty brings joy to the people
and removes suffering.
At least it does not create additional suffering.
That way it will give you a little harmony and peace and joy,
at least materially. That’s what we notice.
~ Gelek Rimpoche, Jewel Heart Ann Arbor
DHARMA ON THE JEWEL HEART BLOG
https://www.jewelheart.org/blog/
JUPITERASC
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Hillary’s IT Aide Turns On Her
– Looks Like Her 30,000 Emails May Not Have Been Deleted Permanently
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLAOsoJpfanI-VRGCa7xWDw/community?lb=Ugw-68HJHNo5cz7W3JN4AaABCQ
– Looks Like Her 30,000 Emails May Not Have Been Deleted Permanently
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLAOsoJpfanI-VRGCa7xWDw/community?lb=Ugw-68HJHNo5cz7W3JN4AaABCQ
JUPITERASC
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Blaze
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Hillary’s IT Aide Turns On Her
– Looks Like Her 30,000 Emails May Not Have Been Deleted Permanently
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLAOsoJpfanI-VRGCa7xWDw/community?lb=Ugw-68HJHNo5cz7W3JN4AaABCQ
Old Hillary will be taking a dirt nap before anything is done about those emails.
david starling
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Shemails, hemails, wemails, eieiomails....
Blaze
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Shemails, hemails, wemails, eieiomails....
Gotta G-mails, bruh. Girls love G-mails.
david starling
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Gotta G-mails, bruh. Girls love G-mails.
Spot on, m8!
Blaze
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It would've been spot on if I added some Buddha stuff then used the same font. Too lazy though, lets blame a planet for that.
david starling
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no doubt.
Blaze
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david starling
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Scratch that. Jupiter stationed Direct a week ago! Think someone might have at least mentioned it. 
david starling
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I can live with that. Phucking Jupiter. Trine my Moon and stuff.
Jupiter trining Moon is friendly, consensual molestation. Where's the harm?
david starling
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david starling
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Our only possible destination is Nowhere. Getting there fast is more exciting than getting there slow!
Blaze
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Jupiter trining Moon is friendly, consensual molestation. Where's the harm?
The grand trine from 8th house Jupiter, 12th house Mars unto 4th house Moon. Laziness. I'm fortunate its just laziness after a long productive day.
*sips coffee*
Ah. Liquid life.
Blaze
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JUPITERASC
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