List of Erroneous, Illogical and Fictitious Systems in Astrology

rahu said:

david you have several faults in your logic.
first off carbon dating can not used on stone past a few thousand years.
there is artifact called narmers palette that shows the unification of the two Egypt's by the first king of both lower and upper Egypt . this artifact is on one side a geological representation of Egypt. this artifact predates the age of pyramids by many centuries. on the back side there is a pyramid on the geological representation at near the delta and giza. so how could there be a pyramid noted when pyramids were not existent then?

the ancient Egyptians did not know how to make a pyramids with a slope of 51 degrees. all Egyptian pyramids have a slope of 43.5 degrees, except the Giza pyramids.
The bent pyramid was created at the same time as the collapsed pyramid of King Sneferu .
These pyramids had a slope of over 51 degrees. After the collapsed pyramid collapsed….. the bent pyramid ‘s slope was changed to 43.5 degree slope. The bent pyramid had sated with a slope of over 50 degrees but when the first pyramid collapsed the bent pyramids slope was change from over 50 degrees to 43.5 degrees.
There are no hieroglyphs in the giza pyramids so there no evidence that the Egyptians built the pyramids. These are the only Egyptian pyramids that have no hieroglyphs.
No sarcophagus was found in any of the pyramids, but there was fraud involved in the identification of the kings with the pyramids.
The only reference to Cheops is a stela in front of the sphinx in which he acknowledges that he cleared the sand away from the sphinx in return he was made king.
the geological fact is that on the sphinx there is evidence of a great amount of water erosion.
water erosion tends downward and wind erosion gives stratified levels of erosion./ the water erosion is severe.. thousands of years. but there has not been enough precipitation in the nile valley to cause this much erosions for over 10,000 years when the Sahara desert was an vast inland sea.

these are geological facts. the sphinx has to be over 10,000 at the very least.
of course 300 gallons of kerosene brought down a 100 story building so.....so any fraud can be pasted off.

and of course, there is the small problem that using modern technology, the pyramids could not have been built except maybe within the last 50 years of modern technology.,
rahu

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passiflora said:

Thanks to all of you esp. Opal and david starling for this discussion! I wonder if Velikovsky was familiar with any non-monotheistic scriptures? Anyway his work sounds very interesting psychologically.
This book sounds fun:
Baillie, Mike (1999). Exodus to Arthur: Catastrophic Encounters with Comets

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david starling said:

There's a concerted effort by some to devalue and discredit the great civilization of ancient Egypt. These fringe theories are based on pure speculation from a prejudiced point of view.

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david starling said:

No surprise that an Age of Scorpio would be shrouded in mystery!

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passiflora said:

Thanks to all of you esp. Opal and david starling for this discussion! I wonder if Velikovsky was familiar with any non-monotheistic scriptures? Anyway his work sounds very interesting psychologically.
This book sounds fun:
Baillie, Mike (1999). Exodus to Arthur: Catastrophic Encounters with Comets

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Opal said:

It has been written and said for a very long time, that the pyramids were gifted by the ancients. Ancient, is a loosely used term. How old is ancient?

What if ancient is over a million years. the people that lived in the area would not be Egyptian. They may well be ancestors of the ancient ones. But they are not the ancient ones.

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david starling said:

All right, for the sake of argument , let's say that the Great Pyramid was already there when the Egyptian dynasties began. Now, what prevented them from carving out hieroglyphics on its walls? An ancient Atlantian curse, perhaps?

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david starling said:

One Egyptian builder of the Great Pyramid to another: "Dammit! We did too good a job. They'll never believe we could have done this!"

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david starling said:

From an Age of Capricorn perspective, it does seem impossible for such a low-tech civilization to have constructed them. Unless you factor in the Age of Scorpio, which enabled paranormal abilities we no longer possess. Consider the amazing achievements of this Capricornian Age, using technology that spans the globe, and could bring an end to all life on Earth!

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david starling said:

Good evidence the pyramids at Giza

were built using concrete, poured into plywood forms.

No modern technology needed.

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Cap said:

We still possess those abilities, we never lost them. They are just harder to manifest and harder to bring forth from within ourselves. This is because this reality is solidifying (in lack of a better term) more and more and there is an ever-increasing time gap between intention/visualization and manifestation. This process of solidification is our own doing, our own creation. This reality is an interactive system, it reacts to thoughts and beliefs. More people believe that the world is solid, more energy to that thought pattern, the more "solid" it becomes. Not just the current generation but all the people who had these thoughts throughout the timeline.

Similarly, astral and higher realms and all beings that exist there are our creation and are now part of the collective unconscious. What was at first imagination and belief of a few individuals, through a continuous process of thought energy accumulation became a reality (in collective unconscious). However, these realms and beings are still dependant on thought energy supply from us.

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Opal said:

It has been written and said for a very long time, that the pyramids were gifted by the ancients. Ancient, is a loosely used term. How old is ancient?

What if ancient is over a million years. the people that lived in the area would not be Egyptian. They may well be ancestors of the ancient ones. But they are not the ancient ones.

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Opal said:

One of my favorite words.....




Shroud.....of Turin......shrouded in mystery




......Jacques de Molay.....or Jesus of Nazerene......both were shrouded......

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