Hello Jupiter
Thank you for that. I was waiting for someone to open the can of worms on the 12th house stuff
I always carefully sail the 12th house cosmic oceans.
I find it helpful in the developmental sense to see the good things in the 12th house even though it is, as you have shown, an area which supports "self-undoing". One of the reason for this is that it is a cadent house (for those who don't know what cadent means it represents the mutable houses: 3rd/Gemini, 6th/Virgo, 9th/Sagittarius and finally 12th/Pisces). In cadent houses the inherent challenge is to gather the mental resources and LEARN. If we walk around the circle we notice that each of these houses has an association with learning or the mental faculties. The element gives further insight into the learning process. With the 12th house for example, a water house, we could expect this to be a learning of an emotional kind. For the most part, this formation of knowledge has the inherent challenge of developing compassion and spirituality. However, the facility of this challenge is often contested and rightly so. And we know that most people experience difficulty integrating their 12th house planets which ultimately contributes to the lower (less favorable) characteristics of the 12th house.
One thing to add here is that one should identify if the person lacks earth elements or has a weak Saturn because these are often indicators of an incapacity to "ground" the 12th house planets. In Veronica's case, both her luminaries are in the earth element which suggests that her 12th house spiritual/emotional development could harmonize and be grounded by her practical/tangible development.
I find Stephen Arroyo's description of the 12th house in the
Chart Interpretation Handbook insightful in that regard. He writes:
The twelfth house is the area of LEARNING on the EMOTIONAL and SOUL level. This learning takes place through the gradual growth of awareness that accompanies loneliness and deep suffering, through selfless service, or through devotion to a higher ideal. At the deepest level, this house indicates the urge to seek
peace for the soul through surrender to a higher unity, through devotion to a transcendental idea, and through freedom from the ghosts of past thoughts and actions.
The reason why Pisces and Neptune and the 12th have a relationship to the practice of astrology is because of they are signs which involve non-logical metaphorical/poetic comprehension. The grasping of a "symbol' itself is more qualified by poetic insight than it is by logical insight. Astrology's development requires logic and Uranus-like breakthrough logic and Scorpio like perception. But all of this would go without saying if there wasn't the poetic foundation of the symbol to begin with.
I would think, then, that a twelfth house Sun would accentuate intuitive understanding--an indispensable skill for the astrologer!
All this being said, I am in no way contesting the interpretation that Jupiter has contributed. On the contrary, I am offering a perspective that tries to encapsulate the inherent challenge concerning all those areas of experience he mentioned.
Nathan
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James Hillman wrote extensively on the "imaginal" (Neptune) preconditions of all experience--at length in
The Thought of the Heart and the Soul of the World.
If anyone is interested, this book is an excellent and rigorous (yet poetic) investigation of the entity that houses our shared semantic project as both thinkers and practitioners of language.
http://www.amazon.ca/The-Thought-Heart-Soul-World/dp/0882143530
