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Re: How Long Will I Work at New Job?

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Re: How Long Will I Work at New Job?
LODOR is disposited by Saturn, which is in its exaltation sign (one reason I determined that querent would not be dismissed by employers) and is in a pitted degree (ie, a blocked-no change-degree), another reason why I determined that no action regarding the querent would be taken by employers (Note: 10th house = employers, Saturn lord of the 10th-that's 10th whole sign-as well as significator of LODOR) Venus = querent, and is elevated above Saturn (LODOR and employers significator) AND Venus (querent) is within a degree of conjunction with its exact exaltation degree point: so...querent will likely be the one who makes the decision about continued employment.
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To answer your other question as to why I believed querent to decide about employement rather than employer...well, Saturn, the employer/job is well dignified and conjucnt Fortuna, so I'd think the employer wants you no harm...if you going to leave this job it will be your own free will. Saturn is also in the sign of Venus, you. (I don't quite follow Lilly when it comes to reception, I always used Frawley...) So here it seems Saturn being in the sign ruled by Venus, the employer/workplace really likes you... :-)
Thank you rafaella and dr. farr for explaining how you arrived at your conclusions; your reasoning makes sense, and what's more, the chart seemed to open up when I applied a few of the principles you've described.

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(I don't quite follow Lilly when it comes to reception, I always used Frawley...)
I'm not familiar with John Frawley's work, which must sound sacrilegious to horary astrologers. I am curious about his system of rulerships now, though--I always had used Ptolemy's Table of Essential Dignities.

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It is good to hear from you again and that your life is moving forward. In horary astrology the Moon is usually used for timing. A symbolic direction of the Moon to an important significator will time the event.

In the chart Taurus is rising and Venus is your significator. Using the sixth house to indicate the occupation or job of the querent is a modern idea. The occupation is a tenth house matter. Therefore, the significator of the job is Saturn ruler of the tenth.

Both Venus and Saturn have essential dignity, and I give 12 points to Venus and 7 to Saturn. Venus is in mutual reception with Jupiter. Saturn is conjunct the Lot of Fortune. Because the Sun is in the tenth house and Moon in the fourth house, Fortune is in good condition. So you look to be in good shape here. The job should be interesting and will probable help your financial situation. However, there is no aspect between Saturn and Venus so at some point you will find something better.

The Moon is also your significator, and it is at the beginning of Leo. About 28 degrees separate the Moon and Saturn. This can be used as the term of your employment: one month to each degree gives 28 months. At that time a better situation may well open for you.
Thank you for responding as well, Culpeper. I considered briefly using the tenth house ruler when I first began studying this chart, but I dismissed the idea because I am not my own boss; I had thought the tenth house traditionally described the higher nobility, whose modern equivalent is the company owner or the chief operating officer. I bow to your greater experience and insight, however.

I am aware that the Part of Fortune is derived from the positions of the Ascendant, Sun, and Moon, but I hadn't realized that the house positions of the Sun and the Moon would determine its strength or, perhaps more specifically, the degree to which the Part of Fortune is "fortunate." Would you mind explaining this if you have a spare moment? It it simply a matter that the tenth and the fourth are angular houses, or are they regarded as "fortunate" houses in a way that the eighth and the twelfth traditionally have been regarded as "unfortunate" houses?

I agree with your assessment that the job is interesting, and it will help my financial situation. What's more, I'm developing skills and confidence. 28 months seems like a perfect length of time to be employed there. It will be interesting to consult this chart as I develop a history with this company, even if it ultimately is a short one.

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