To answer your question, Bob, JA and Dirius do not have experience in chart rectification.
Dirius, in your post #124 you wrote:
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I never denied that astrologers have attempted methods that try to find the correct Ascendant without any type of birth time indication. In fact, as this was shown, its been the case since the dawn of astrology."
The dawn of astrology goes back to Sumer, not horoscopic astrology, and there is some debate as to whether horary was practiced by Hellenistic astrologers.
Second, here are excerpts from your previous posts:
From your post #2:
you can't "rectify" a chart without a time of birth.
This is why its called "rectify", because you take the time of birth you are given and change it to the actual one.
A speculative chart with no actual time of birth, its not really a rectification.
From your post #6:
you can't "rectify" a chart without a time of birth.
This is why its called "rectify", because you take the time of birth you are given and change it to the actual one.
A speculative chart with no actual time of birth, its not really a rectification. ....Rectification is done with an estimated time of birth, to turn it into the real time of birth. Like someone saying "I was born in the evening, between 9 or 10", and doing the rectification method to find he/she was born around 9:22 pm.
It is not about blind Ascendant finding.
From your post #12:
As I said, it can't be done.
From your post #16:
We are not discussing rectification techniques itself, I think we all know how to do that, but rather arguing if a rectification can be done without any sort of given birth time. (as you call it, 24 hour rectification).
I could excerpt more of your comparable posts indicating that you denied the existence of rectification without a birth time estimate, but the main thing is that you accept its existence now.
I merely comment that those methods are unreliable, and as a start fail on many concepts, they don't guarantee an accurate chart, nor do they provide good results. There are too many factors involved that make these methods a failure more often than not.
Usually when a method is unreliable and does not posses a high succes rate, the technical defintion is that they "do not functionally work". And thus, are usually discarded. Anyone is free to use them though.
The problem, however, is that the best you can say about any rectification is that one cannot say with certainty or "proof" whether it is correct or not, because even if we have an official birth record, it could be wrong. Let's put the "burden of proof" on you, and ask you to demonstrate with hard evidence, that 24-hour rectification is worthless. This wouldn't be on the basis of your logic, but on the basis of facts.
Maybe the best we can do, as per Bernadette Brady's technical article linked above, is to find a chart that is
radical.
An author's opinion, is just that, an opinion. If they do not show the method working, its nothing more than a "take my word for it" statement.
The fact that they do not practice rectification is not an encouraging factor when analyzing those comments. If the authors would at least make an offer to do the method, would be evidence that they can validate those statements through their actions. Given that they do not, all that can be taken from their statement, is that its nothing more than an opinion, and not an actual method.
Dirius, Bob and I have linked or shown you many specific examples of rectification methods. What parts of these sources didn't you read? I am not going to type out the code of someone else's software program, cite verbatim a 300-page book, or duplicate an extensive thread from Astrodienst. Are you able to follow Bob's posts? But I draw my own conclusions from your (a) refusal to read or acknowledge sources with extensive information on methodology, followed by (b) your assertion that such sources somehow don't exist.
Steven Forrest and Chris Brennan certainly described their methods in sufficient detail for anyone to follow them.
Your strategy of drawing assumptions about professional astrologers is equally unsubstantiated. I asked if you had ever attempted rectification, even with a birth time estimate and if you have any idea of how time- and energy-consuming rectification is? These questions have as yet had no response. So you try your hand at a few rectifications yourself, Dirius, then let's talk.
[edited by request - Moderator]