Trial Of Derek Chauvin - Officer Accused Of Killing George Floyd

blackbery said:

We are now hearing the 'other side of the story'....the defense side and already, they are strongly contesting the 'causation' part of Floyd's death.

TOPLINE A forensic pathologist called as a witness by Derek Chauvin’s defense team testified Wednesday that he believes George Floyd died of heart failure caused by underlying conditions, contradicting the testimony of multiple expert witnesses for the prosecution who said the former Minneapolis police officer’s prolonged restraint of Floyd caused his death.

Dr. David Fowler, Maryland’s former medical chief examiner, said he reviewed Floyd’s case after he was approached by Chauvin’s defense attorney Eric Nelson with the help of fellow experts in a group known as the Forensic Panel.

Fowler said he concluded Floyd suffered a “sudden cardiac arrhythmia” because of his heart disease “during his restraint and subdual by police.”

The medical expert said Floyd’s drug use played a “significant” role, citing the fentanyl and methamphetamine found in Floyd’s body at his time of death, and suggested (for the first time in the trial) that Floyd may have experienced carbon monoxide poisoning from exhaust fumes from the police vehicle.

The Washington Post described him as “among the most respected forensic pathologists in America.”

Derek Chauvin Defense Expert Says George Floyd Died of Cardiac Arrest

https://www.wsj.com/articles/derek-...orge-floyd-died-of-cardiac-arrest-11618417601

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to begin calling witnesses in Chauvin's defense.

ElenaJ said:

Every Black death is another opportunity for a new pair of Nikes, and a new luxury home for their leader.

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JUPITERASC said:

by the way
keep in mind that the death has been ruled a HOMICIDE





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blackbery said:

Floyd too could have made different choices.
Like not brutally assaulting a woman years ago & served 5 yrs.
Like not engaging in criminal activity like passing counterfeit bills.
Like not resisting arrest.
Like not swallowing his entire stash of drugs in the back of the police car.
And 'homicide' is the act of 'killing' another person.
It's not murder.
Big difference.
You want to declare Chauvin guilty of murder with NO evidence.

You want to declare Chauvin a racist when there is NO evidence.
That's what courts are for.

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it is the Jury who decides based on the evidence

blackbery said:

Every person deserves to have THEIR side of the story heard.

This bs narrative that all cops are racist is ludicrous. More of them are murdered by black men, far more then the odd black person who dies by a cop.

In case you are not aware, many black men are dangerous, violent criminals and that's why police have to be extra cautious when dealing with them.

I know I know, I'm a racist right-winger for speaking the truth.

Try working as a police officer for 6 months & see how quickly you would be branded as a racist killer!

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says the way Officer Creighton handled George Floyd

blackbery said:

You do realize how courts work right?

The Prosecution presents their case first. They are only going to bring in witnesses that help them prosecute the accused. They are not always moral, honest or fair. That's why every person deserves a good defense attorney. Most people can't afford their own lawyers and get poor representation with gov't paid ones. The prosecution which is the gov't have unlimited resources and that's why there are so many innocent people in jail or people who have to take plea deals even though they may be innocent of the charges.

Nobody is denying that Floyd died while being restrained by Chauvin..but the legal question is whether it was accidental or deliberate, whether there were other factors involved in his death.

The defense lawyer is very good, even with the 11 well-heeled prosecutors and millions of dollars at their disposal to pay their 'expert' witnesses. He has already poked holes in their case with some testifying that Chauvin's restraint was not unusual or uncommon.
He has cross-examined very well & got a couple of the 'experts' to admit that the high level of drugs in Floyd's system could have contributed to his breathing problems.

Now, he has brought in a very prominent pathologist who said that heart attack led to Floyd's death, not the restraint (which was perfectly legal back then).

Let's allow the trial to proceed without want to put Chauvin in front of a firing squad.
There has been zero evidence that Chauvin was racist & out to murder Floyd.

The law is governed by Saturn factual evidence. Give the defense lawyer time to present his case before jumping to conclusions based on emotional hyperbole.

Derek Chauvin Defense Day One: Expert Says Restraint of George Floyd Was Reasonable

Former Minneapolis police officer’s attorney, Eric Nelson, is trying to show Mr. Floyd died of drugs and heart disease, not Mr. Chauvin’s use of force

https://www.wsj.com/articles/derek-...e-in-trial-of-george-floyds-death-11618325244

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blackbery said:

EXPLAINER: Legion of Chauvin prosecutors, each with own role


Viewers watching the trial of a former Minneapolis officer charged with murder in George Floyd ’s death may be struck by the array of prosecutors taking turns presenting their case. The choice of who does what is no accident.

While Derek Chauvin ’s attorney, Eric Nelson, works alone, the prosecution is being handled by two assistant attorneys general, Matthew Frank and Erin Eldridge, and two outside lawyers, Jerry Blackwell and Steve Schleicher. Ten more are working behind the scenes, many for free.



Please remember that a person can be charged with a number of crimes and may be innocent of all the charges.

JUPITERASC said:

EXPERT WITNESS DR MARTIN TOBIN ILLUSTRATES

HOW LAW ENFORCEMENT BODYWEIGHT

DEPRIVED GEORGE FLOYD OF ABILITY TO BREATHE

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Also, please remember the violent Antifa.BLM mobs which are there to intimidate the jury.

I think they shouldn't have had a trial for a year or so because I don't think Chauvin can even get a fair trial. Do you honestly believe the jury will feel safe if they acquit him?


BLM activist: 'All hell' will break loose and buildings will burn 'if George Floyd's murderer is not sentenced'

These violent mobs now want to dictate how courts operate and the trial verdicts. That's not justice, that's terrorism. They should all be declared domestic terrorists instead of being celebrated and given millions.


Kelly Campagna
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Apr 5
“Justice” apparently now means people riot in the street if they don’t get the conviction that they want.

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the Jury decision, based on evidence for and against

JUPITERASC said:

you said:

" '...homicide...' is the act of '...killing...' another person
It's not murder...."
so you understand that Chauvin is on trial accused of '...killing...' someone

and

it is the Jury who decides based on the evidence
whether murder, manslaughter and so on

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JUPITERASC said:

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Fowler is a former medical examiner

called by Derek Chauvin's defense attorney

to testify about Floyd's cause of death.
He said his opinion is that Floyd died from a "...sudden cardiac arrhythmia..."

contradicting the state's experts
who said Floyd died from low oxygen.

HOWEVER


Dr. David Fowler acknowledged that as a physician
he believes
George Floyd should have been given "...immediate medical attention...."
when he went into cardiac arrest.


Dr. David Fowler: Immediate medical aid could have helped George Floyd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dblpHn0P_KM
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david starling said:

What about causing a death that was preventable, due to "depraved indifference"?

That appears to have been what occurred in this case.

Is that "voluntary manslaughter"?

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not all expert testimony has been presented to the Jury

david starling said:

Looks like an appeal to overturn a guilty verdict
is a certainty.
And, that it has a chance of winning.

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and