guide me how to see the connection

ritz

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So i know this person since about ten years now. at least from my side i feel a connection with him or something is there. but i don't understand him much, as he hardly communicates well.
 
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kshantaram

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moons pisces and libra 6/8 and unfriendly, lords jup-venus, emotional conflict;
pisces sensitive, wise, ethical, spiritual, traditional;
libra social, objective, just, artistic, wavery decision making,
stormy anger when provoked;

ascendants taurus-cancer 3/11, lords venus-moon unfriendly,
merely forced dutiful in friendship, sans mutual charm;
taurus creative, energetic, love of food-comforts, stubborn;
cancer sensitive, intuitive, possessive;


uttarabhadra and chitra cow and tiger most incompatible,
not good for compatibility in luck and health,
4.5/10 points below average; least desirable match;

moon pisces compatible with moons pisces, scorpio, cancer


hope this information helps reflect further and helps take stock,
do share salient pointwise ground feedbacks, how true-false-insightful etc,



kshantaram
 
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ritz

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thank you so much for your reply.

yes, he has been very patient and cordial with me despite of temper now and then. yes, i am fickle minded even though i don't want to be but i think he is also.. he doesn't take a commitment with me.

no, i don't we have forced dutiful friendship because we both don't feel the need to be but we are friends from a long long time. i think we have mutual charm from a long time, but because i think i am too insecure so not able to open up to him, also because i think i am too emotional. yes, he is creative and stubborn and also has a love of food and comforts. his stubbornness drives me crazy sometimes. i don't think i am possessive, i am maybe needy sometimes but not all the time.

so would you able to tell why we possible have our friendship from so long and in between we have been out of touch as well.. but we do have it.. so what's the connection? because we both don't feel the need to this friendship. it's not in any way forced. maybe anything from the navamsa chart or some divisional chart? i don't know much about divisional charts.

does astrology really come in handy and is it always right?
 

kshantaram

Premium Member
appreciate your ack and sharing feedbacks.

whether astrology is right is matter of personal experience.

people in true love do not need synastry and astrology,
as they are emotionally attracted and appreciate and understand each other;
and are ready to walk-together life long, come what may.

being friendly pre-marriage sharing and talking on a cup of coffee now and then,
and living together in marriage commitment and children
and sharing responsibilities to run family and life is something else.

Many people in love do break-up sooner after marriage
living and sharing life under the same roof and being part of a larger family,
having to live together day in and day out 24x7x365 for life,
not able to tolerate each other, getting real.

Astrology and chart matching is insurance against this separative phenomenon,
which needs to be done with care and judiciousness, enabling people,
while not encouraging what is not compatible.

the fact one seeks astrological input before getting married,
is perhaps proof there are self-doubts about living together life-long;
unless done for mere curiosity after marriage, to understand each other more,
or to solve residual issues and through remedies etc.

astro-data has been provided on compatibility,
it is for one to judge for oneself whether it applies experientially,
and whether there are alarm bells to consider before proceeding,
while planning to live together all life
with commitment and responsibility towards each other,
the children and the two extended families,
living with love-peace-sacrifice-tolerance with total acceptance of each other for life
with strengths and weaknesses and ups and downs of life;

other expert opinions too could be taken, double checking always,
especially when you like each other;
again true love does not need any synastry analysis,
being already prepared beyond doubt;


best wishes, kshantaram
 

Virinchi

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exact time and place of birth gives sublords and ruling planets of both charts.
they will indicate if this relation will last or not
 

ritz

Well-known member
appreciate your ack and sharing feedbacks.

whether astrology is right is matter of personal experience.

people in true love do not need synastry and astrology,
as they are emotionally attracted and appreciate and understand each other;
and are ready to walk-together life long, come what may.

being friendly pre-marriage sharing and talking on a cup of coffee now and then,
and living together in marriage commitment and children
and sharing responsibilities to run family and life is something else.

Many people in love do break-up sooner after marriage
living and sharing life under the same roof and being part of a larger family,
having to live together day in and day out 24x7x365 for life,
not able to tolerate each other, getting real.

Astrology and chart matching is insurance against this separative phenomenon,
which needs to be done with care and judiciousness, enabling people,
while not encouraging what is not compatible.

the fact one seeks astrological input before getting married,
is perhaps proof there are self-doubts about living together life-long;
unless done for mere curiosity after marriage, to understand each other more,
or to solve residual issues and through remedies etc.

astro-data has been provided on compatibility,
it is for one to judge for oneself whether it applies experientially,
and whether there are alarm bells to consider before proceeding,
while planning to live together all life
with commitment and responsibility towards each other,
the children and the two extended families,
living with love-peace-sacrifice-tolerance with total acceptance of each other for life
with strengths and weaknesses and ups and downs of life;

other expert opinions too could be taken, double checking always,
especially when you like each other;
again true love does not need any synastry analysis,
being already prepared beyond doubt;


best wishes, kshantaram

Thank you for sharing your reply and your input.

Can you please guide me in any way about the guy and his current situation? Because he mentioned that he is going through a rough time while he was under the effect of substance.. but when he is sober .. he doesn’t talk to me. And he mentioned he was hospitalised twice in the last six months.. so am quite concernedं. When I talk to him he says I talk too much, when I don’t .. he feels I don’t care.. I don’t know what I am suppose to do here .. especially after what he told me .. I would really like some insight into his situation and guidance of any kind of what can I do
 

ritz

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btw which one is His chart? chitra/uttirabhadra?
His is uttarabhadra. I somehow feel he is playing mind games with me. I dont like men who hv planets in Scorpio sign. He has sun in Scorpio maybe why he is manipulating n also egoistic.. in 7th house and moon mars conjuct in Pisces in 11th house probably why addicted to substance. His AK is mercury so again he makes use of his cleverness with me.. am I reading into this right ?
 

kshantaram

Premium Member
hope information enables pick clues as relevant : uttirabhadra

sun scorpio 7th seeking a brilliant passionate well-to-do spouse,
while prone to separation; research-occult-forensic aptitudes;
scorpio secretive, suspicious, sentimental, sarcastic, magnetic;

mars lord 7th over 11th, gains through spouse;
moon-mars pisces 11th, gains from govt,
volatile emotions and finances;

jup lord 11th for gains over taurus asc,
gains through artistic aptitudes and advisory roles;

jup asc protective of the chart,
and aspect sun scorpio protective of marriage-relationship;


mer-venus libra 6th, winning opponents through personal charm,
literary-oratory-artistic-pharma aptitudes;
mer-venus lords 1/5 for prosperity though through extra efforts;

jup lord 8th for chronic disease transit mer-venus libra 6th,
prone to health issues - kidneys, liver, intestinal, skin, etc


sat lord 9th negating to 8th, negating luck;

sat now 2.5yrs transit natal sat 8th for chronic diseases;

cap inimical-malefic for taurus asc,
stress-delays in luck-edu-father-travels etc, settling at 36+
sat lord 10th over 8th, career issues;
sat sag aspect own acq 10th, protective of career
but not healthy boss relationships;

jup debilated aspect over inimical cap 9th affecting luck-edu-father-travels again;


last quarter 018 jup moves to sun scorpio 7th,
prospects of well-to-do marriage,
trine moon-mars pisces 11th for gains,
and trine elevated aspect cancer 3rd for initiative, writings, advisory roles;

rahu NNode now transit cancer 3rd for initiative-progress, excessive risk taking;

ketu SNode now 1.5yr transit inimical cap 9th, distant travels;
pain-injury-surgery knees-thighs etc;

natal ketu leo 4th, high self-pride, detached attitude at home,
detachment from mother-motherland;
pain-injury-surgery heart-stomach-lungs etc;

ketu next transit natal-transit sat sag 8th,
pain-injury-surgery, urological, thighs, etc etc
detachment from career-job-father probably;



do ack and share salient feedbacks how true-insightful-prospective etc etc


wishing well, kshantaram
 
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ritz

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hope information enables pick clues as relevant : uttirabhadra

sun scorpio 7th seeking a brilliant passionate well-to-do spouse,
while prone to separation; research-occult-forensic aptitudes;
mars lord 7th over 11th, gains through spouse;
moon-mars pisces 11th, gains from govt,
volatile emotions and finances;

jup lord 11th for gains over taurus asc,
gains through artistic aptitudes and advisory roles;
jup asc protective of the chart,
and aspect sun scorpio protective of marriage-relationship;

mer-venus libra 6th, winning opponents through personal charm,
literary-oratory-artistic-pharma aptitudes;
mer-venus lords 1/5 for prosperity though through extra efforts;

jup lord 8th for chronic disease transit mer-venus libra 6th,
prone to health issues - kidneys, liver, intestinal, skin, etc

sat lord 9th negating to 8th, negating luck;
sat now 2.5yrs transit natal sat 8th for chronic diseases;
cap inimical-malefic for taurus asc,
stress-delays in luck-edu-father-travels etc, settling at 36+
sat lord 10th over 8th, career issues;
sat sag aspect own acq 10th, protective of career
but not healthy boss relationships;

jup debilated aspect over inimical cap 9th affecting luck-edu-father-travels again;


last quarter 018 jup moves to sun scorpio 7th,
prospects of well-to-do marriage,
trine moon-mars pisces 11th for gains,
and trine elevated aspect cancer 3rd for initiative, writings, advisory roles;

rahu NNode now transit cancer 3rd for initiative-progress, excessive risk taking;

ketu SNode now 1.5yr transit inimical cap 9th, distant travels;
pain-injury-surgery knees-thighs etc;

natal ketu leo 4th, high self-pride, detached attitude at home,
detachment from mother-motherland;
pain-injury-surgery heart-stomach-lungs etc;

ketu next transit natal-transit sat sag 8th,
pain-injury-surgery, urological, thighs, etc etc
detachment from career-job-father probably;


do ack and share salient feedbacks how true-insightful-prospective etc etc


wishing well, kshantaram

Thank you for your reply. But you skipped out on everything that I asked as a question and of what I personally experienced. What you said is so generalised and plus this guy is so secretive and egoistic and controlling that he hardly reveals much about himself with me at least ... so what things you said .. I have no idea about those and it’s generalised and not been in my experience so cannot comment on that. Thank you though
 

kshantaram

Premium Member
Can you please guide me in any way about the guy and his current situation?

Because he mentioned that he is going through a rough time while he was under the effect of substance.. but when he is sober .. he doesn’t talk to me.

And he mentioned he was hospitalised twice in the last six months.. so am quite concernedं.

When I talk to him he says I talk too much, when I don’t .. he feels I don’t care.. I don’t know what I am suppose to do here .. especially after what he told me .. I would really like some insight into his situation and guidance of any kind of what can I do?


it is specific chart reading practically all about his chart, in case you would like to explore and take interest dispassionately.

you are after his chart though mentioned not basically compatible, you feel the connect;

the connect probably is he is sun secretive scorpio,
and you are saturn scorpio wanting to dig the secrets, equally secretive, suspicious, sentimental, passionate etc.
while sun-sat are mutually strong enemies and not compatible.

sorry in case all my reading effort has not been of much direct use, while you are indulged in your own thoughts and personal concerns.
 
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ritz

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thank you again for making the effort to respond. i didn't mean to be mean to you or hurt your sentiments and your efforts you are making to respond.. i am grateful to you.

but this is how i wanted to be explained to me like how you did just now.. with my saturn scorpio and his sun scorpio and these two planets are not friends.. this makes me sense to me personally and also it's close up reading of our charts in relation. the very generalized readings don't interest me much and neither do i learn much yet.. smaller, well explained process is more of interest to me and it sits in my head. :)

so thank you once again.
 

kshantaram

Premium Member
it was not a generalised reading,

you mentioned about his health and your concern for him which has been astrologically explained,

one reads what one sees in the chart, and it is for us to pick the relevance and connect the dots
and discover more about and how to deploy the information meaningfully,

agreeing or disagreeing with specific chart observations, based on your experience and information
about the person about whom you are asking
, rather than certifying the reading effort,

you seem to tend to accept or reject the reading wholesale dumping it as a generalisation, stuck in your idea of
he being secretive, and that is the only factor to be read in the chart, and while you state you are very much concerned
about his health, but ignore the chart information and trends revealed not factoring the information made available.

did not want to say earlier that you are equally a saturnine scorpio,
glad this information finally gives you a close on this chart reading;



wishing you well, kshantaram
 
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