Predicting war?

Culpeper

Premium Member
For mundane predictions of wars and cataclysms the great conjunctions of Jupiter and Saturn are used. We are still under the conjunction at 22 degrees Taurus that happened in the year 2000. Mars was involved in that conjunction. Cast a chart for the conjunction at an important capital. The wars or other bad stuff will probably not happen immediately. Use profections to try to find and time them. Taurus represents a bull and the bull is also the symbol of the financial center in NYC which was attacked the following year with great lose of life and property and more wars following. Prior to that conjunction there were two great comets: Hyakutake and Hale Bopp. Visible comets and novas are dire omens.

The next conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn is in mid December 2020 in the sign of 29 degrees Capricorn. Mars (war) and Pluto (death) are involved as well. The malefics Saturn and Mars are very strong in Capricorn and benefic Jupiter is at a disadvantage. Expect consequences of the worst kind especially if proceeded by comet, nova or some other heavenly sign visible to most every one. Of course I really hope my grim predictions are wrong.
 

rahu

Banned
the world has been a war since the invasion of Afghanistan over a decade ago. how do you distinguish a "war" with the military killing enemy combatants and civilians to the tune of 500,000 since the US began the "war" in the middle east???? I think the term should be "nuclear war" to distinguish this coming conflict from the "business as usual" wars tat are raging.
rahu
 

rahu

Banned
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/06/02/syria-shoots-down-israeli-plane-suspected-of-helping-isis/

does this meet the definition of war?

Syria Shoots Down Israeli Plane Suspected Of Helping ISIS
Syria has confirmed that it shot down an Israeli plane suspected of helping ISIS which had been flying over Syrian territory, tasked with bombing innocent civilians.
Just one week after Israeli officials confirmed they were building up to a war with Hezbollah, the Israeli Air Force launched airstrikes against Syria, under the guise of targeting an alleged weapons convoy belonging to the Lebanese militia.
Syria responded by activating their anti-aircraft missile defence system against the Israeli jets, successfully taking one down and hitting another.
 

dr. farr

Well-known member
UPDATE June 27, 2017

Time is approaching (based on my time frame prediction, above) for the first massive US military attack, on either North Korea or Syria. In my prediction I leaned toward that attack being vs North Korea; however, looking further at the forthcoming August 21 Solar eclipse chart, I now have to say that Syria might well be the theater of the first massive US military attack-within the time period I have given-with North Korea perhaps becoming the second theater to be attacked, this occurring perhaps later than my estimated time-frame parameter.
 

detectahead

Well-known member
The transit of another body over the eclipse degree usually triggers events. Mars hits 28 Leo on September 3rd and moon in opposition on the 5th.
 

Senecar

Well-known member
I have been following the news and media reports with the prediction, but it looks like as if nothing is going to happen. Something happens in this area (NK) will mean just too drastic impact in the whole world, and no parties seem want that.

But the prediction is otherwise, so will keep on eye on it :)
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
I have been following the news and media reports with the prediction
but it looks like as if nothing is going to happen.
Something happens in this area (NK) will mean just too drastic impact in the whole world,
and no parties seem want that.

But the prediction is otherwise, so will keep on eye on it
:)
MUNDANE events differ in different countries worldwide
dependent on the MUNDANE CHARTS OF THOSE DIFFERENT COUNTRIES :smile:
each individual country has it's own series of charts

with different ASC/DESC/MC/IC angles from those of other countries Mundane charts
due to different locations
and
based on the following MUNDANE criteria

which is that
as Ibn Ezra explains
astrology does not contravene natural law
and therefore
a personal chart falls under an hierarchy
of other considerations
WHICH INCLUDES THE YEAR 2000 GREAT CONJUNCTION OF JUPITER AND SATURN

these hierarchies are :


Grand Conjunction 1702
21 May 1702
4:01:37 PM
+4:56:02
Federal Hall, New York
074°W00'37"
40°N42'26"

Great Mutation (Earth) 1802
17 Jul 1802
5:52:26 PM
+4:56:02
Federal Hall, New York

Great Conjunction 2000
28 May 2000
11:07:39 AM
+4:56:02
Federal Hall, New York

CURRENT Aries Ingress
insert relevant date and time
Federal Hall, New York

Great Malefic 2004
25 May 2004
1:20 AM
+4:56:02
Federal Hall, New York

....Insert Trumps Natal Chart Here.....
That is where Trumps place is in the hierarchy of charts.


Note:
Relocate ALL of the above chart(s) to your country
as well as to all other relevant countries under study for MUNDANE EVENTS

and
for maximum accuracy
use the "foundation point"

eg: Romania = Alba Iulia, not Bucharesti

Japan = Kyoto, not Tokyo
Spain = Toledo, not Madrid
and so on
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
For mundane predictions of wars and cataclysms
the great conjunctions of Jupiter and Saturn are used.
We are still under the conjunction at 22 degrees Taurus that happened in the year 2000.
Mars was involved in that conjunction.
Cast a chart for the conjunction at an important capital.
The wars or other bad stuff will probably not happen immediately.
Use profections to try to find and time them.
Taurus represents a bull and the bull is also the symbol of the financial center in NYC
which was attacked the following year with great lose of life and property and more wars following.
Prior to that conjunction there were two great comets: Hyakutake and Hale Bopp.
Visible comets and novas are dire omens.

Jupiter's alignment with Saturn occurs at intervals of just under 20 years.
For millennia, the alignment of these two planets has been regarded
as a significator of great social, economic and political watersheds

- historic turning points, if you will :smile:

The aspect is occasionally repeated due to a retrograde of one or both planets.

Each successive conjunction
not counting retrograde repeats
occurs at a mean advance of approximately 243 degrees relative to its predecessor
although from one alignment to the next this arc can vary considerably.
Every third conjunction - once every 60 years
- brings the alignment back to its starting place

plus around 9 degrees:
this 60 year cycle is termed the first order recurrence of the conjunction.
Every 40th conjunction - roughly once every 800 years
- brings the alignment back to within about 1 degree of its starting place:
this approximate 800 year cycle is termed the second order recurrence
astrologically known as THE GREAT MUTATION CYCLE.
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
So what is your prediction on the possible war between NK and US this year?
for your own learning experience
better that you create all the charts for yourself
for NK and US
as advised
then you have the choice to post your own conclusions
along with the charts
with your own prediction on the matter
:smile:
 

Senecar

Well-known member
for your own learning experience
better that you create all the charts for yourself
for NK and US
as advised
then you have the choice to post your own conclusions
along with the charts
with your own prediction on the matter
:smile:


Surely you could present your own version of the prediction too? :)
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Surely you could present your own version of the prediction too? :)
Ours is an astrological learning forum
and

if anyone is interested to learn traditional Mundane methodology
then I have posted more than sufficient information :smile:
for any reader of this thread who is interested to do so
to practice Mundane prediction for themselves
 

david starling

Well-known member
Ours is an astrological learning forum
and

if anyone is interested to learn traditional Mundane methodology
then I have posted more than sufficient information :smile:
for any reader of this thread who is interested to do so
to practice Mundane prediction for themselves

Given your extensive source material, we COULD learn from your own, personally preferred methods.
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Given your extensive source material,
we COULD learn from your own, personally preferred methods.
I'm no expert :smile:
Given I have posted more than sufficient extensive source material
with which to commence Mundane practice
nothing prevents anyone on this thread from following their own
personally preferred methods
for more FREE information
check out AN INTRODUCTION TO MUNDANE ASTROLOGY

at http://www.skyscript.co.uk/ingresses.html
 

detectahead

Well-known member
I'm surprised that know one has entertained the idea of an assination attempt on president Trump's life or a member of his family.(referring to the Eclipse). Saturn is conjunct his natal moon exact while opposing his sun
 

Senecar

Well-known member
I'm no expert :smile:
Given I have posted more than sufficient extensive source material
with which to commence Mundane practice
nothing prevents anyone on this thread from following their own
personally preferred methods
for more FREE information
check out AN INTRODUCTION TO MUNDANE ASTROLOGY

at http://www.skyscript.co.uk/ingresses.html

Reading other people's predictions and studying details of the prediction methods are all part of the learning :)
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member

Culpeper

Premium Member
Please do not ask someone else to do all the work of mundane astrology for free. First look at the Aries ingress charts of the countries of interest. If Mars is not attacking key significators with square or opposition aspects then war is unlikely. The USA is about see a total solar eclipse. This will be an important mundane chart but just for the USA, and Rahu put it up on another thread. Solar eclipses are not always malefic, and I do not see any real threat from Mars and so will not predict war. The effects of solar eclipse charts can last for years and timing once again is done with profections. The eclipse is in Leo and Donald Trump has Leo rising (I think) so this can mean he is in mortal danger. Other astrologers have made this point.
 
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