Do you associate Neptune with faith in oneself? I took it to mean you do when you put Neptune in parentheses in that segment about your son finding faith in himself.
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Yes, I do,
once Sun has become a stronger influence over an individual than Moon’s imagination and needs for that outside of themselves. Moon will follow; it doesn't lead.
To my mind, Neptune is even less associated with belief in self than Jupiter. Jupiter is about belief in the tangible, or in what easily could be tangible. For example, believing that you can be a successful entrepreneur (it takes a good dose of Jupiter to be one, in my opinion, but Jupiter can also bring over confidence--making for the kind of entrepreneur who over promises, doesn't have a realistic sense of funding, and soon goes out of business.) Or believing that you'll win the lottery as you buy a weekly ticket (odds are that you won't, but people do win it, so it's not impossible). Or simply letting go and trusting in the universe when you step into the unknown.
I did not write that Neptune is associated with ‘belief’, which I also explained to be the
trust and self confidence that Jupiter provides to make an idea tangible (through Capricorn – Saturn influence).
Neptune is about the farther out, even more intangible dreams. The stuff of fantasy. Inspired art (the lie that tells the truth, as Picasso called it). Or outright delusions. I see it as much more about the collective unconscious, much less about the individual. Self belief requires a sense of individuality. Neptune would just as soon dissolve individuality.
I think there are many who would say that Neptune CAN work on a personal level, when linked to personal planets. Aspects to its position can be the key in how it works in a chart.
Neptune is a physical planet, so can be tangible in physical outlets IF a person sees its
truth it reveals. Inspiration through ‘creative fantasy ‘is not necessariy negative of nature, as any magician, writer, artiste ….. and the audience/reader…. will tell you. They are totally aware of the illusion created.
Vocation can also replace and dissolve individuality.
My own
intangible Neptune is aspected by Mercury, Saturn and 'collective unconscious' Uranus. Yet once Sun got interested, its tendency appears to work through learning and my absolute
faith in the medical side of astrology. I can't prove a thing, personally, yet the symbolism proves it works.
Using my son’s profession as a tangible Neptune example.
His ‘practical teaching’ comes in when pseudo blood is used, or ‘the victim’ lies in an awkward position that would indicate an injury, and someone in the class has to tell and/or show what action (s)he would take before the medics arrive. The blood isn’t real, the leg isn’t broken, the heart is still beating, yet the illusion created serves its purpose. Saturn-Neptune at its best.
Watching videos of what should be done is not the same; a class becomes boring and iphones are more interesting to look at. Active participation has proven to work. Saturn-Neptune at its best.
It took the trauma of deception and divorce that gave him (back) his freedom (1st-7th-11th houses T-square?) to get the kite into the air and truly flying.
Now that sounds very Neptunian! The marriage into a wealthy family, too (sounds like Neptune/Jupiter).
Notice its the Moon-Venus-Jupiter T-square across 1-7-11th houses?
Neptune doesn't come into it, unless it was the lights of the laser show disco he organised with some friends, where he met his ex-wife … A Sun in Libra.
I'm getting a sense of something rather like a Hans Christian Andersen story, where the character has big ambitions and winds up falling very low (The Wind's Tale, and I think there was one about someone who made a promising marriage and ended up in ruin... and the original Little Mermaid is along those lines, too, if you think about it). And then the Neptune dissolution.
His 'love at first sight' did begin as a fairy story. Love transferred from study to individual; failed finals (under sec.pr. Sun square Neptune). He followed her lead (business) until her deception (Venus in Pisces?), divorce, and penniless made him take back his life.
The fairy story take does appear to have a happy ending, if today is anything to go by.
Son's life has become an open book.