LovelyMissAries
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I've read in different articles that it is, but how can Saturn be masculine and rule a feminine sign? Same with Venus and Libra. Or is that okay because it represents yin and yang and a balance of energies?
I've read in different articles that it is, but how can Saturn be masculine and rule a feminine sign? Same with Venus and Libra. Or is that okay because it represents yin and yang and a balance of energies?
Saturn is masculine and rules Aquarius, a masculine sign. It also rules a femenine sign, but does not have as much power as it has in the other sign.
And, just like with Saturn, Mars is femenine and therefore rules a femenine sign (Scorpio), which it prefers to its second rulership (Aries)
Saturn is masculine and rules Aquarius, a masculine sign. It also rules a femenine sign, but does not have as much power as it has in the other sign.
And, just like with Saturn, Mars is femenine and therefore rules a femenine sign (Scorpio), which it prefers to its second rulership (Aries)
The symbol for Mars mars is the actual SYMBOL of the male gender, just as Venus is for female. I believe the planet's influence can be either masculine (as was the god of war), OR feminine, for fertility and the renewal of plant and animal life in Spring.
Saturn is nearly always portrayed as masculine, and is the archetype for Father Time. But Saturn's wife, Ops (Rhea in Greek), was goddess of the natural flow of time, relating to birth and the generations. The male version of Saturn (Cronus in Greek) is about aging and death, for individuals and civilizations. So, the Astrological meaning of "Saturn" could have both meanings.
Traditional astrology says otherwise. Mars is femenine and Saturn masculine.
So you're saying the Romans worshipped Mars as a GODDESS??!
No, that's roman mythology. This is astrology on an astrology forum. Mars is taken as a feminine planet in astrology. I don't like the idea of it being feminine either, so if it bothers you, think of Mars as a masculine planet that, due to its excess of heat, needs feminine energy in order to reduce and dissipate said heat. Saturn is "feminine" and cold and needs a masculine energy to balance its excess of cold and turn its natural temperament into a more moderate humour.
Try using "Yang" and "Yin" in place of masculine and feminine. Also, the two planets inside of Earth's orbit are especially of dual nature, since they appear as both morning and evening stars.
No thanks. I prefer using masculine and feminine, as the most practical usage I've seen of this quality is the estimation of the biological sex/gender of children and siblings.
This goes back to Hellenistic astrologers who saw evening stars as feminine, and morning stars as masculine, but I do not use this, neither do I use feminine or masculine quadrants, nor do I use inherent planetary gender.
I meant it mostly for the Signs, with Fire and Air as Yang, and Earth and Water as Yin. The Hellenists did lose the import of the Planet now known as Venus as the original Sumerian morning-star goddess of Justice/evening-star goddess of Love; so, they had only Aphrodite, the evening-star version. Hermes/Mercury was only masculine and was god of thieves as the evening-star, and god of merchants and travelers as the morning star. The Greco-Romans did masculinize morning-star Venus as Phosphorus, Eosphoros (Greek); and, Lucifer in Latin, who ended up demonized in the Christian cosmology.
The thing is that Hellenistic astrologers largely ignored what mythology has to say and said that Mercury is common/androgynous (only one author has him assigned masculine). If anything, that choice may have been influenced by Hermes Trismegistos, which was taken as some high sage who succeeded in alchemy and mysticism (and thus uniting the opposites). They did have thieves, forgers and criminals ascribed to Mercury with Mars though.
Also the majority of Hellenistic astrologers did not assign the Four Classical Elements to the Signs. Many held Capricorn and Aquarius to be aquatic and did not have Scorpio as watery sign or Aquarius as an airy one.
What about Zeus/Jupiter? No Greco-Roman religious input regarding "the King of the gods"? Wasn't Jupiter considered masculine by the Hellenists?
Do you happen to know how the Classical Elements and the Modalities became part of the heritage of Western-astrology? If it's Ptolemy, it appears he was drawing from earlier sources, with his own seasonal motif to explain the rulerships.