Dirius
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Well the argument for to the "dark ages" slowing down scientific development may have more to do with the fall of the roman empire rather than religion itself, which used to allow the flow of economic goods and ideas throughout the mediterranean. When the empire began to fragment the subsequent kingoms were at first closed and belligerant with each other, their economies slowed down, and the feudal system (which is originally of germanic origin) was put in place. The fact that the later period of the middle ages saw a resurgance in art, science and trade leading into the reinassance, would imply the problem was not religion at all.
As for the marxists countries, the problem comes with the fact that they not only persecuted religion, but tried to establish another type of culture. For example, in communist dictatorship the state encourages children to betray their parents in favour of the state, while in christianity family is upheld as the most important thing (respect your father and mother). We see this in cultural marxism today, when the state keeps trampling over the rights of parents to educate their children the way they would prefer.
In any case, I agree that religion can cause trouble like any other institution when given power, and to be fair, the catholic church was the first to break many of its own rules. However it has more to do with the values that are inherent to its society, which is usually secular themselves. Our definition of justice or freedom is (or used to) be very different than other cultures. We used to value respect, restrainment, kindness, etc. You could say these are mixed with Greek rationality, to create the modern day west.
Londonistan has abandoned all of these. So its not surprising people get attacked on the streets. I believe like you that immigration is in part, a huge factor. But I see it as a symptom of a decaying society, not its cause.
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