I'm sure that most of you folk will have seen this quote:
"Four Modern Astrologers said Serial Killer John Wayne Gacy: "…can be very good with kids..." "...just your presence would be beneficial to other people..." "...a fairly well-rounded personality...you can offer a good role model..." "You have an instinctive awareness and your uninhibited response to life can refresh and gladden whomever you encounter."
Traditional Astrology Says: "...shows a strange mind and very wicked."
Gacy received 12 Death and 21 Life sentences for the murder of 33 boys."
Which traditional indicators would point to "A STRANGE MIND AND VERY WICKED" ? 17 march 42 0.29 am Chicago IL
According to Firmicus Maternus, Mars in the 7th Place indicates great evil and perils.
He will make the natives suffer as criminals and murderers, be defendants accused as discoverers of new crimes; or they will be torturers, executioners or informers.
Liber Tertius Tract IV Paragraph 17
When reading ancient texts, it's important to understand the thought processes.
There's no way to list every possible delineation, so typically, for benefics the best case scenario is given and for malefics the worst case scenario is provided.
Mars in the seventh house, that is, on the descendant by night or day makes for a violent death according to the nature of the signs. He indicates this evil more strongly in alien signs for then he predicts pain, lacerations of the body from a fall or death; or he has the native thrown into prison, or condemns him to deadly misfortune.
Liber Tertius Tract IV Paragraph 18
Is Mars in domicile, detriment, exalted or in fall in Gemini? No, so Gemini is an "alien sign."
That means Mars is peregrine and to look at how to act, Mars relies in part on Pisces Mercury, who disposits Mars.
Which one of these three: torturers, executioners or informers, can be ruled out?
Informers.
Yeah, spies are included as informers. Mars cannot be peregrine and an informer.
To be fair, Maternus also says:
Jupiter in the seventh house, (that, is, the descendant) in a diurnal house indicates wealth and a happy old age, By night he changes drastically the house of marriage and children. For the native will lose a beloved wife and see the deaths of children. Late in life, however, he will receive an increase in income, not very large, but enough to keep him from want.
Liber Tertius Tract III Paragraph 15
That's Brown's translation which is quite confusing.
Maternus is actually comparing a 7th Place Jupiter in a day chart with a 7th Place Jupiter in a night chart.
Even so, the delineation Maternus provides assumes Jupiter is the sole Star in the 7th and not assembled with any other Star, like Mars, which would radically change the delineation.
The Stars do not exist in a vacuum. They are in signs and places, and they may have despositors or be in aspect or assembled and then there's the matter of their celestial condition.