There is also mutual reception between Mars and Saturn. Saturn and Sun receive each other by triplicity. There is some other minor/mixed reception beteen your planets.
You are correct that there is no essential dignity (with the exception of Jupiter being in his own terms using Egyptian terms as KnS already pointed out) but it isn't because there is no aspect. Being received does not confer essential dignity. Even with an aspect the planets are still essentially not dignified. Essential dignity takes us to the meaning of the word "essence." Dictionary.com gives the best definition
The essence of a planet, including diginity, is what we are looking at when we are defining that planet separate from anything else. This "definining/describing" is the first step in understanding the total condition of the planet, but not the last.
Sect is a topic that deserves its own thread.
It is a separate consideration from essential dignity; while it does speak to the "essence" of the planet, it cannot confer or take away dignity. What it can do is tell us how your peregrine planets will act (domain), if they are capable to act (competent) and if they are able to act (angularity.)
No, this isn't true. The first thing peregrine planets need to do is examine themselves. Lilly and a few others have called them wiley (this is on that other long thread you referred to.) The next thing they do is examine their rulers to see if they will help or hinder. I've been at work all day, so the best analogy I can come up with is trying to do my job (run a store for a corporate company) and wanting to rely on my bosses to help me. Yet mostly their advice/directives/help gets in the way of me doing my job effectively. Which means that I am back to myself, my "essence" in order to get the job done.
How would YOU describe a chart like this? After all, it is your chart My question would be can you look at your peregrine planets and see how they have operated in your chart/life? Is the reality as "bad" as the idea? Are you "undignified?"
Hi,
Thanks for your insightful response. I understand what you mean about mutual reception, but I am almost sure I heard Rob Hand in a lecture say that mutual reception did confer dignity...but I could have misunderstood, and I can't find it written.
Wiley may be the word, but from my experience, the peregrine planet lacks strength and luck. Triplicity,as Lee Lehman describes it, brings a bit of luck to the planetary energy.
My chart is an interesting one, I think, for the reason that it has so many peregrine planets, both luminaries in the 12th, Saturn square the chart ruler, Mercury, who is at the 'tiller' in his joy, but very debilitated by the very tight Saturn square. The other planet in an angular house, Mars, is in detriment in Libra. But in spite of their peregrine state and both being under assault from a Saturn in fall, Mars and Mercury in the chart have shown some energy, I believe, due to the angularity. I have had some success writing, was a reasonably good high school athlete, and have always loved a fight (but maybe that's because I am half Irish).
So what is it like to have all planets peregrine, except for a Jupiter in its own term, both luminaries in the 12th house, and a Balsamic moon under the rays?
I think approaching a chart like mine is a good exercise for astrologers, because, when we read someone's chart that looks like this one, what do we tell them?
Here is what I can say from my experience. One of the keys to this chart is the moon. The balsamic moon signifies the end of cycle, the 8th and final phase where it is time to tie up loose knots, and almost merge with the infinite again in a Piscean way. And if you use whole sign houses, the Sun and Moon move into the first house, but the North Node moves into the 12th..imo, equally murky.
If someone walked into my practice with my chart, I would look to see how connected they were to the world, and if I saw they were not, I would really nudge them towards a contemplative life.
For example, I have lived and worked in 4 countries, more jobs then I can remember, and one night, when I couldn't sleep, I counted having had 27 different residences. I have had many sentimental relationships, worked in many fields, some with distinction, but nothing ever took. It has been almost impossible to put roots down professionally, relationship wise, family wise, location wise etc. I believe this type of life is a reflection of the lack of strength in these planets. Imagine, not one of them in his home, or even a guest, and only one is allowed to sit in his own chair? How can they force an issue if they aren't even wearing their own clothes? Wiley they had better be.
For a long time I thought I was doomed, until I finally gave into myself, and since then, I feel like I have cracked the nut of this chart.
The Gnostics had an idea that the planets were to be overcome, transcended, as was the zodiac. There was a concept that beyond the 7 planets, and beyond the zodiac, one met Jesus and Sophia. It's a bit like the Tarot cards of The Lovers and The Devil.... they are practically the same card, but what at a more earthy or physical level, love and attachment are great, they later become chains. The Devil guards the gate to the last 6 spiritual cards, the transcendent cards. Before you can pass him, you must have given up those things. You can't have any hooks in you if you want to really reach a high level of consciousness.
I would compare it a bit to waking up to the Matrix. Living in the Matrix is great, but once you wake up to it, it stops working, you can't go back. The soul moves down through Saturn (time and culture) Jupiter (religion and philosophy) Mars (power, the tribe, the more basic urges.). etc.. etc.. until we get to earth, and then we have to make the return trip.
The weakness of this chart from an earthly point of view is exactly it's strength in a transcendent one. Shift things around a bit, and I have a Sun in Aries, Saturn in Capricorn, an new moon in Taurus conjunct Venus, and I am a happy, worldly, successful person, but I am also far too attached to this world to ever transcend it.
From a traditional stand point, there are doomed charts, and this is a good example of one, but doomed for this world. But maybe a chart like this pushes the native towards the transcendent, success beyond this world. Again, as the Gnostics emphasized, maybe this world is not all its cracked up to be.
If the native dreams of a cushy corporate life, a happy marriage, and weekends at the golf club- this is not a good chart for him. But there are other lives and other paths, and the path less taken would be the appropriate one for this chart.
I promise I'm not making fun of you. I have a distant relative who is a triple Scorpio and boy was she fun! And I have met here a triple Pisces and a triple Leo. I just thought I would mention it to you and if you had any words of wisdom about that.