Phoenix Venus: As you're already aware, you were fair in your post. I made a general address, rather than a specific one, because there were multiple posters committing the same error. You, at least, treated Leos like humans, rather than walking collections of astrological qualities. I suppose it's a personal frustration that comes from being a Sun Leo. I've seriously gotten so tired of this same fallacious quacking that I wish I could write my rational points on a card, have it copied a few hundred times, and hand one out whenever necessary. This thread deserves one of those "reality check" cards.
I've already written and removed three paragraphs about sampling bias, generalisation, refusal to take responsibility, and uninformed opinions. I dropped them from this post because those are simple problems that any reasonable, thinking person should already be able to handle (which also contributes to my frustration).
My real problem with this thread is the fact that it has been astrologically misleading. To read this thread as a novice, one might think that having even a single planet placed in Leo makes one a child that cannot control oneself. Leo's negative qualities (that should be overcome in time) have been used to drag Leo through the mud. Leo is perhaps the most disciplined and loyal of any of the signs. Leo has a keen awareness of the connection between performance and value. If I can't perform, then I am not fit to lead. If I can out-perform you, then I am more fit than you are. Leos are able to calculate and size up situations quickly and effectively. It is very difficult to deceive Leo's cold, penetrating stare. Leos love to snuggle and the back-rubs are heavenly! Then there's always the long-standing reputation of Leo being generous to a fault.
Did any of these wonderful qualities get mentioned? I didn't see them. What I saw was complaints about childish people who were the wrong choice from the beginning. The bottom line is that people make choices. Some people are highly developed. Some are far behind. Most are in the middle somewhere. We also need to remember that people change over time. Every person has been an idiot. The point is that we should learn from it. This forum should be a place to learn about astrology, not be misled by complaints.
I offer my apologies to those, such as Phoenix Venus, who were not contributing to the problem. I'll aim for the individuals next time.
must have been something else then, perhaps just me being too distant and not giving enough attention.
Absolutely not I would say. Many times, such statements are just a way of venting a bad experience we have had.Males with Venus in Leo.. superficial?
Hi,
Absolutely not I would say. Many times, such statements are just a way of venting a bad experience we have had.
If anything, the Leo Venus is extremely giving and will love magnanimously, and uncalculatedly, unlike some other signs. A Leo Moon will give their last shirt on their back and forget themselves completely. The only thing a Leo Venus will not like is being ignored or given a cold shoulder. Pride and acknowledgement by others is very important.
Another thing, a Leo Venus will have very royal, expensive and highly refined tastes. now that could make others think - the Leo Venus believes in superficiality. Leo Venus (Venus also being money) will also like money in order to maintain a certain respectable standard of living. However, they are not mean with their money and will always be ready to help (just don't forget to give them a pat on their back for it).
A Leo Venus will also be a very happy and jolly person.
Hi,I agree, Leo Venus people are exceptionally generous. I have dated them and I have friends with that placement. They are always the first one to buy you a drink or pick up the tab for their less fortunate friends, even if they don't necessarily have it. I do think many Leo Venus people do tend to live above their means because of this (and this is just based on my personal interaction/experience with them). I wouldn't necessarily say that a Leo Moon is as generous as a Leo Venus. I actually think quite the opposite - a Leo Moon can be quite selfish at times.. it's all about "memememe" type of thing. But again, that's just based on observation.
I just wish they weren't drawn to me.. would make things much easier! I only thought about this because there is a guy in my building who thinks I'm attractive(he told another girl who lives in my building) and since they share the same birthday I just put his info in astro.com to see where his Venus would be and it was in Leo. Three of my exboyfriends also had Venus in Leo.
I agree, Leo Venus people are exceptionally generous. I have dated them and I have friends with that placement. They are always the first one to buy you a drink or pick up the tab for their less fortunate friends, even if they don't necessarily have it. I do think many Leo Venus people do tend to live above their means because of this (and this is just based on my personal interaction/experience with them). I wouldn't necessarily say that a Leo Moon is as generous as a Leo Venus. I actually think quite the opposite - a Leo Moon can be quite selfish at times.. it's all about "memememe" type of thing. But again, that's just based on observation.
Hi,...The other one had Taurus sun and Aries venus...
I think most everybody is superficial to the people one doesn't know, and that does not come from their Venus, and most certainly not from their Venus being in Leo. That comes from their Ascendant and its ruler.I say yes and no. I have venus in leo in 2nd house. I can be superficial to the people that I dont know but I am very deep and sophisticated person actually. Im real to my friends.
I think most everybody is superficial to the people one doesn't know, and that does not come from their Venus, and most certainly not from their Venus being in Leo. That comes from their Ascendant and its ruler.
I think we may have varied definitions of "superficiality" here. What I am trying to say is that our Asc. is a natural garb/defence against the world. With people we do not know, we are cautious, and do not readily open up. And, that is normal.I'm never superficial, and I have Pisces rising, Jupiter in Scorpio in H9, and Neptune in Libra in H 8. I sometimes pretend I am, just to mirror those who are incapable of relating emotionally. I also have Moon and Venus in Aquarius, which provides the ability to be genuine without ulterior motives and without necessarily getting "emotionally involved". I think Leo is such a personally compassionate Sign that the superficiality is a necessary defense against being taken advantage of by needy people.
I think we may have varied definitions of "superficiality" here. What I am trying to say is that our Asc. is a natural garb/defence against the world. With people we do not know, we are cautious, and do not readily open up. And, that is normal.
There is a thread on this on the Education Board. You might want to check it out.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52424What's the title?
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52424
For some reason, it was not on the Education Board anymore. Although it would be a good idea to put it there.