the node and reality

rahu

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The conjunct of the node and saturn is probably the most complicated as Saturn rules Time and “reality“.The distinction I make is that the node “fixates” reality. But there is a deeper cultural antagonism between these symbols as Saturn conjunct the node can be seen as the primogeniture suppression of the matriarchal base of human life , society and spirit.

I describe the north node as the point of creation of time and existence and the south node as the point of egress of time and the point of accumulation of thought forms,. Then the practical difference in north node transits versus south node transits is the psychic accumulations of the south node tend to bring real power to the individual. The north node tends to bring knowledge an inspiration which can be translated into power and the accumulations of desired matter.

Whereas the south node transits bring power of thedense plane directly. As both are of the same element ,both bring inspiration and knowledge but once time begins the desires of the body are inundated by coarser more “real” forms of energy under the south node tan the north node.
So basically north node transits can be more intellectual/ spiritual whereas south node transits bring tension and psychic power dynamics into play. But both affect “reality”.
The south node can bring confusion if the individual cannot integrate the forces that come through them. The south node can bring megalomania whereas the north node can bring flights of illusion.
Traditionally the north node is of the nature of Jupiter and the south node is of the nature of Saturn and this does generally holds true.

Node transits to Saturn highlight the difference in the north and south node.
South node conjunct Saturn often show material wealth.usually from the father.it gives a stubborn and controlling personality and the father is likely the major influence in this person life. Often a person is over shadowed by the father with this placement and can harbor resentment.in a womans chart especially ,this is an intial sign of sexual abuse, thought other aspects can make this definitive such as Pluto square to saturn or Pluto square the sun, actually Pluto square venus or mars also makes the sexual abuse likely.this placement brings a “magic” or altered state to the natives sense of reality . this can be because of financial or material advantage, but it can also show that coincidence play a big part I lifes experience. As the node is lunar in nature ,often such a placement in a man’s chart shows a domineering nature toward women. This placement shows a self sufficient attitude that often is accompanied by selfishness and insensitivity.
Adding the concept of magic, this placement is similar to the devil card as passions and selfishness are paramount. This is the placement of the occultist and can show the application of occult principles on the astral to control and influence others.
Afflicted this placement shows ill fortune because of selfishness and desires. It can bring economic problems throughout life and and inability to take advantage of opportunities .often hardship in early life give such a native an eternal”chip” on their shoulder.
Here the key is to not be greedy. The image is to catch power of the south node with open hands. That is do not try to catch all that come to one. This greed of wanting to control everything and retain everything leads to collapse as no mortal can contain the infinite.

The north node conjunct to Saturn often lessens the rigid ego structure that Saturn symbolizes. Insome ways the ego structure is dissolved and the native can embrace a
“spiritual “perspective . This can bring a sense of insecurity .This brings also indications of wealth ad in a woman’s chart the likelihood of sexual abuse for the same reasons as the south node placement.

Here the sense of magic and coincidence is less burdening as the environment does not “crush’ the native as strongly as when the south node is conjunct. The influence of the father is strong and usually has a dominating affect on the personality development .with hard aspect to mars, this placement can also result in stubbornness ad selfishness but always there is a insecurity as the transient nature of reality is felt much stronger than with a south node placement.
This placement also gives synchronistic events throughout life.
Both placements with Saturn and the nodes can give unusual physical symptoms. Sometimes negative sometimes positive. both placement are very “magnetic” to karmic or psycho kinetic influences.
I know of one native with a Saturn/south node conjunction who always would end up pits in her cherry pie or similar particles when she dined out. I have personally never bit into a pit but this occurred repeatedly in her case. on the flip side she had an uncanny ability to always arrive at a public destination moments before a crowd of people would arrive.
This is totally anecdotal but it serves to illustrate the quirky nature that reality can have with nodal/Saturn placements.
The distinction between south and north node transits is somewhat arbitrary as either placement can result in exalted or malicious examples. And either placement can give rise to opposite effects This is why I emphasize that each individual must research how the node affects them.
And as usual the aspects to Saturn can complicate the manifestation that occur



The node conjunct to venus in the natal gives a attractive emotional and physical presence(though a strong Saturn placement can harden the physical attributes). The emotional aura is very strong and this native will be felt psychically by others. This can bring great creativity and prophecy. Intuitions are very good but the desire body can distort the intuition. love and opportunity come to this native but as the sexual aura is present from birth, this placement very often show sexual abuse .if the native also has hard Saturn/Pluto/Chiron/nessus aspect then sexual abuse is a given. if abuse starts very young then likely the native will not have any memory, so it is very delicate interpretation to make.
Often, especially with the south node transiting, a native will draw many suitors but many arguments and jealousies will occur.

The nodal axis can bring out both the good and bad in any symbol.
This tends to bring material luck and gain with many friends. but even with a bright façade this transit can burden the native with “emotional demons” and when afflicted can show a hateful ad vindictive personality under the attractive countenance .often the native will put out love and get hate in return.



Mars conjunct the nodal axis gives a powerful charisma or “magic” around them. the individuals aura is felt by all around.
This aspect gives an inherent “luck” of direction. That is ,if the individual is not overly bound by ego desires, then their spontaneous actions and responses are usually correct. It gives an “intuitive” sense of what their “path” in life is. But if the native has selfish motivations then this favorable vibration goes out the window. this aspect gives a magnetic quality to he native and are usually very attractive whether the physical body is “attractive” or not. This affect is similar to what athletes call being in the “zone”. If one can stay in the moment and not “think “ too much then the expectations and desires tend to follow.
the nodal axis gives a strong sexual aura also. And in a woman’s chart sexual abuse can be problem. With both mars and Venus, the sexual aura is very powerful from birth and hence sexually abuse experiences are very likely. On the positive side I usually is associated with a strong sexual drive but is not aggressive unless mars is afflicted. This mars aspect is closely associated with the 25th hexagram in the I CHING.
As a personally magnetic aspect, negative forces as well as positive forces can be directed a the native, as others may react if the native does not respond o their entreaties .
With a north node transit ,the native has an easier time following their “path”, as they intuitively take the correct turns.
A south node transit is more powerful and difficult because the dense plane is attracted to this aspect very strongly. The individual is more likely to allow his ego desires to take precedence over higher motivations. here the sense of personal strength is stronger as the environment is more easily molded and controlled by the native. This is one aspect of a black magician, where the individual seeks power and control over others. With this aspect a native tries to control all that comes to him, which is a fool errand ,as no mortal can contain the infinite energy of the universe that flows through the nodal axis .if the native can receive the infinite with open hands ,then the dense plane accumulations will not bury them. But very often this has to be learned by being overwhelmed by the nodal energy and falling from “grace” and success because of greed and selfishness.
This holds true for all nodal transits of the planet. That is , trying to contain or control all the energy of the south node will ultimately bring disaster . the correct image is to keep that which comes through your open hands but not to try to contain everything. The south node often bring a sense of megalomania to the native before hey learn their limitations
The north node transit does no usually bring this trial as it tends to bring truth ,insight ,knowledge and inspiration. Though such knowledge can bring the dense plane around them and so the same trials as the south node can be present. the distinctions between the north and south node are not absolute as it is the same energy axis and therefore the conditions described can be felt by either north or south node transits.


Jupiter conjunct the nodal axis gives intelligence and great understanding. With the north node it give noble morals and intuitive and inspired knowledge of the larger patterns of society. it brings innate teaching abilities and friends are drawn to the native for counseling and understanding. it tends to show a close connection to the grandparents and usually bring educational or financial success,
This position brings out the spiritual and religious feeling I a native and they usually are very just .

the node is also the path that enlightened spirits come to guide and instruct.
rahu The south node conjunct Jupiter tends toward accretion of power and the naïve can become very authoritarian. Obsession with money and power can follow and tyrannical a personality can develop if the personality structure is greedy and selfish. rather than being just , this position can show the native to be only interested In personal gain.and instead of trustworthy the power drawn by the south node can manifest as deception and lying.
Afflict this is a very aggressive and combative aspect. Megalomania can develop and any signs or impartiality can disappear .
with other indications in a chart ,this can show abuse by authority figures or aunts, uncles , grandparents or family friends.

whenever the node is conjunct a planet , the potential for the native’s personality being overwhelmed by the astral energies is present
with the nodal axis conjunct Jupiter , the native can become a beacon of light and understanding or an despotic , ruthless tyrant. The magic of the node can be good or evil.
All node conjunctions bring the danger of forces from the nether realms trying to take control of the naïve yet it is also the pathway enlighten spirits use to bring illlumination.


Uranus conjunct the nodal axis gives direct access to the astral plane. This shows astral projection , vivid dreaming ,out of the body experiences , prophetic dreams and access to the akashic records. when favorable the native can see time as a ribbon . It give a potential of intellectual and creative genius and gives a reformative personality. It gives intelligence and foresightedness. It gives the potential for scientific and mathematical brilliance. but if the energy of the nodal axis overwhelms the native erratic and unstable efforts can result. Especially with the south node, this can bring “insanity”. it is rare that this conjunction does not at some point subject a person to influences that put them so far out of the social norm that they are characterized as “crazy”, as genius and insanity are but flip sides of the same two edged sword.
The problem here is the same with trying to contain all the cosmic energy that runs through the node. one must be able to integrate the astral input and let go of that which is beyond comprehension, but often the desire body identifies with the cosmic energies and loses sight that they are but a vessel. Insanity descends when the native identifies with the energy.

This position gives the potential for all forms of psychic phenomenon. Clairvoyance, astral projection and interchanges with other entities on the astral plane.
This brings spontaneous states of altered consciousness and this can turn to volatility and instability of the mind..The influx of the infinite will cause a rigid ego to explode while a expansive worldview brings great success. If this aspect occurs with an afflicted Saturn then the native will likely develop some form of bipolar personality disorder. And this aspect can destroy a natives life with continual mental instability.
Discipline in early life is imperative, as the rebellious nature this aspect brings must be channeled constructively, else an early death thru accidents or impulsive behavior can result, or a life of disruption and chaos can ensue.
With Saturn square the node/Uranus conjunction, the natives life will continually be abruptly changed by circumstances beyond them this aspect is associated with accidents. And in any case the native’s life will change in abrupt steps, either for the good or bad. These changes will occur every 4-5 years, especially in youth.
This aspect is associated with the great reformer, the radical anarchist, the brilliant scientist or all seeing occultist.

Neptune is the only symbol that as no physical correspondent. It is symbolic of the plane of archetypes., the primordial thoughts and ideas that give rise to reality. It is the content of dreams, visions and illusion .it is the impulse of morality , the awareness of the sacredness of life, or the abuse of life.
On the psychological plane It is creativity and beliefs .it gives the power of transcendent sight, though afflicted it bring delusion, self destruction and malice.depending on the aspects the node with Neptune can give artistic abilities and as a pervasive psychic influence it can give the ability to influence other’s preference hence it is excellent for marketing and sales.

With he nodal axis , it brings connection to the spirit planes and influences both divine and decadent. here visions become real and malicious intent can become all consuming. with the south node particularly,

drugs and alcohol can dominate the consciousness, though the powers of natural healing substances also have great strength with this placement. Altered consciousness and waking visions can confuse the naïve. He native is open to interactions with the higher planes .it can bring cosmic consciousness or the most malevolent intrusion of selfish and evil spirits. with Saturn square to neptune, the native often has terrifying dreams and nightmares.
Neptune with the nodal axis bring psychic abilities and allows the native to be influenced or influence other from the astral plane.
The nodal axis can serves as the pathway that malicious adepts use to control and enslave. Everyone has a connection to the astral plane as it is the pathway that the soul uses to pass through incarnations. yet the astral plane is also the path that souls in the body use to influence and communicate with each other. The attitudes one has in the waking state are the same that one has on the astral plane. hence the selfish, deceiving and manipulative adepts on earth can use these pathways to further their plots of domination on the astral.
As Neptune is the symbol of spiritual viewpoints and attitudes, with the node can give the impulses of saints or the schemes of the religious extremist.
Occult forces have from time immemorial controlled the face of civilization. The “enlightenment “ ,from the 16century on, has been a ruse to conceal the magical machination of society. As your conscious mind and personality are reflections of your immortal soul, the “enlightenment” has served to erase these magical dynamics from the personality of “modern” men and women. If one cannot conceptualize the power of the astral plane, then one can not consciously use these abilities. Nor can one see these occult forces manipulating society.


Pluto with the nodal axis (and orcus to a similar degree), on the psychological plane gives great selfishness. but it is also an aspect of a “survivor”, an individual who will employ any means necessary to survive. But the selfishness so colors the personality that usually this placement ends up causing the native to “shoot” themselves in the foot.
This placement also shows that past life influences are directly affecting the native. This gives great power to an enlightened native as past lives can give ability and insights far broader than could be gained from a single lifetime of experiences .it gives healing powers but most often the natïve faces sudden and major disease that force the healing energies to manifest . with sextiles to Neptune strong psychic healing powers are present. in the unenlightened, it gives malicious joy in death and brutality . the psychic power is strong and the native spontaneously travels on the astral. But if they have a crude personality, they only cause themselves problems because the can gain enemies because of their selfishness presence in other’s dreams. Often this placement gives prophetic dreams but usually involving the occurrence of death of those around them.
With venus square Pluto in a man’s chart, often girl friends will die early in his life. In a woman’s chart, usually a sister or friend is lost early in her life.
Probably no other nodal conjunction has so much promise for good or such a potential for evil.
This is because the desire body spontaneously travels on the astral and base desires try to influence others. This is usually an unconsciously experience but the affects can never the less bring repercussions in to reality
The sexual nature is very strong but the capacity for love is often absent in the unenlightened. Usually love can only manifest in its higher form as a love of god or of humanity in a general sense as the carnal passions are difficult to control on the personal level, as this placemen is prone to domineering and controlling, abusive emotional interactions.


Chiron with the nodal axis I quite powerful. The full potential of chiron is not addressed In modern astrological texts.emphasis is place on the “wounded healer” concept which , it is true is major psychological dynamic. But overlooked in the myth is that chiron was taught all manner of arts ,medicine, and astrology by Apollo.
Chirons orbit reaches from just inside Saturn to nearly the orbit of Uranus. Saturn is the Adept with his rings being the doors to the occult realities. Uranus is the pathway all knowledge, occult and deductive. Uranus and Saturn form one of the most powerful dialectics in astrology and Chiron is the key to the resolution of these mysteries.

Chiron with the node brings access and application of the occult principles to reality. It gives great intelligence ,psychic awareness and insights to the real dynamics of the material plane. With the nodal access, there is an interest in secret or ritual societies as well as control of the powers that rule society and reality .often mason,kiwanis,moose lodge or cabbalist etc. can have a strong Chiron.
It is analytical and critical but bound by the absolute laws. Chiron was conjunct the node when the stock market crash of 1929 occurred, showing the manipulations that continue to our day. It is the application of occult principles to control reality. As the go between of Saturn and Uranus, Chiron gravitates to knowing the unknowable. And hence often is associated with applied magic.
Psychologically it give an analytical frame of mind that expects coherence of thoughts and action. But it tolerates no contradiction and will cut the leg from under a charlatan or fool with a few incisive words as Chiron has no tact when truth is not observed . a north note association is marked by intelligence and psychic certainty, with the south node, Chiron seeks to control and accumulate and govern of regulate..
Chiron with the node and Jupiter is often found in covert or governmental /corporate agencies as the use of black magic is endemic in these social structures. With Saturn and the node In hard aspects, Chiron can bring sexual exploitation and incest, though these behaviors can be cloaked by philosophic and moral obfuscation.
Psychologically Chiron gives a eccentric sexual impulse and often same sex relationships have prominent chirons. It tends to increase the sexual potency already present in a chart
Intellectually it gives a analytical mind and can be associated with excellent memory abilities, what are called photographic memories.
 

rahu

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Is he indeed having incest with his mother or am I crazy?


hi Emeraldstar99

I added a few other asteroid and symbols to his chart.

the chart does have some aspects that could be interpreted as a incestual relationship with his mother.

his sun is conjunct to nessus, a sexual abuse planet.and psyche with the sun and nessus. psyche is sometimes associated with pedophilia. here it would make sense .
in addition juno is square to orcus and node. orcus is another symbol that has abusive characteristics. juno though not necessarily symbolic of hia mother, it is symbolic of older women with authority.
in addition the juno/orcus midpoint is square to his moon. so these together lead me to believe he does have a sexual interest his mother.

I think you need to post a composite his and his mother. add nessus,orcus,eris,ixion,psyche 16,eros 433

Yeah, I noticed those asteroids, I ignored them, even tho I happen to date 3 Nessus conjunct Sun men. When I saw that before, I was like "Wtf? He is not the Nessus Archetype" I got scared since is considered one of the worst, but I knew 3 men with that aspect and all of them were Sagittarius who had absent fathers. Just 1 one them actually had that "evil" tendencies. I keep attracting people with nessus prominent.

nessus is the nature of strum and Pluto so it can have strong self preservation qualifies.it can be a dutiful soldier who follows the generals orders.

And about the Nessus, your description fits well with all of them,actually.


with mars conjunct to orcus and orcus conjunct the node and pluto square the node and orcus, the unconscious sexual symbols are clearly present.

the moon/pluto midpoint is conjunct to juno with these symbols square to the Orcus/mars conjunction. this would also reinforces the existence of a incestual relationship between mother and sun .

Saturn opposed to Neptune would correlate with the absent father.

the mercury/moon midpoint conjunct to nessus could be interpreted as her incestual inclination to him.

the moon/psyche midpoint opposed to eris shows a spiritual /sexual energy which easily could be used by the other psychological indications .

the mars/pluto midpoint is conjunct to nessus which would again show the incestual nature of the sexual energies from him.

I have to conclude that your feeling are valid, especially as the orcus/pluto node pattern is high indicative of a unnatural sexual ambience.

rahu
 

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hi vansio
this composite is some what hard to get a handle on as there are aspects of great sensitivity and fidelity while at the same time there is a sense of some level of victimization.

the Jupiter/juno conjunction on the ascendant gives a potential for a serious, even committed relationship or marriage.

the eros/psyche midpoint is square to pallas giving you great love and attraction as well as a feeling of persona fulfillment from the relationship.
venus conjunct Neptune gives a very sensitive emotional attraction between you.
the mars/venus midpoint is square to the vertex which suggest initially a strong emotional and sexual attraction.
the venus/Saturn and Neptune Saturn midpoints are conjunct the node giving strong devotional feelings though Neptune can show these feelings are subtle. it can show he was be more subdued in acknowledging his feelings .this vacillation might be shown by pholous on the south node. this would tend to add to the emotional sensitivity but also might weaken his resolve about the relationship .
though mars/venus midpoint is square to the vertex,the vertex is also square to ceres and opposed to chiron. one hand this increases the devotional attraction but with chiron there can be very critical attitudes. always criticizing and not appreciating the good points and times. when working together this gives a deep and profound knowledge of each other inner self and working. but this can be a thin line because if tensions or arguments arise, painful emotional comments can be made as you know each others strengths and weakness.
the mercury/psyche/Lilith stelliuim does give a spontaneous, deeply felt spiritual emotional connection to each other. with neptune conjunct to Venus and this aspect, you and he are very in tune with each other's thoughts and feelings..
what bothers me is that the relationship is so sensitive and responsive to each others emotional needs, that the aspects of insensitivity stand out.
by this I mean mars conjunct to orcus and nessus opposed to eris and square to venus.
mars/orcus is very sexual but not considerate of emotional needs. one can seem like an object rather than a sensitive and feeling being. this aspect can be cold and often initial sexual intensity can fade.
with nessus/eris/venus-neptune, again there is a very passionate sexual connection . but in a similar manner to mars/orcus, eris especially opposed to nessus can be very carnal and not responsive to emotional satisfaction.
the moon/Jupiter and sun/Jupiter midpoints are opposed to eris and conjunct to nessus.
this suggest that this dichotomy between lust and love is a basic point of contention to taking this to a another level of commitment.
Jupiter is sesquiquadrate to Uranus is conjunct to the mars/Venus midpoint and opposed to ceres and square to chiron and the vertex . this might be a on and off relationship because the sexual chemistry is strong,but it doesn't seem stable enough for a serous relationship.
the Jupiter/Saturn midpoint is
is square to mars and orcus. the relationship is hindered by not placing sufficient importance on emotional satisfaction versus simple physical desire that's why I say,there may be feeling of emotional victimization as the extreme sensitivity between you does not seem to be placed before selfish physical needs.

Hi yes! Thank you so much for the read. I also was fascinated by what you would make of the asteroid aspects because of this dichotomy and their exactness in conjunction to some powerful points. I was curious of both Pholus and Orcus aspects.
This is the chart of me and my beloved whom I was live-in partner for three years (engaged) that ended abruptly this last year. I am still connected to him psychically and the universe makes a note of this often. With that said, now up for question is whether we will eventually reconcile for the distance, I was hoping you would notice the nodal transit in this case. There is also a Juno return towards the end of this month, and subsequently to Jupiter in August wherein Sun/Venus will also conjunct Composite Juno.
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Aside from the fineness of our sensitivity (and passion) noticed, your comments on Chiron’s expression in lieu of this rings very true. Emotional victimization is accurate assessment of how things dissembled, insofar as we are able to bring out the best yet trigger upheavals of the lesser-than emotions in front of one another.[/FONT]
 

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hi manderin

the node conjunct the sun in any composite gives a sense of "magic". it can just be a feeling knowing each other or it can lead to feelings of destiny. This give aura to the relationship that if becomes intimate, others can also feel or sense.
mercury is conjunct to venus which shows a very affectionate and humorous repartee.it is easy to speak of your emotions and there are always good feelings.
the mars/sun and mars/node midpoints are conjunct to Venus and mercury which shows a spontaneous affection. an almost magical emotional feeling as you were meant to know each other.
this needs to qualified because the orcus/mercury and orcus/venus mid[points are conjunct the node . this usually lead to brevity and often thoughts are not completely spoken.it can give periods of open discussions that for no reason taper off or that a unexpected silence may occur .
this can be very confusing because mercury nd vens are square to Lilith which shows that spontaneous and heartfelt emotions and attraction and self revelations just seem to be part of your mental interactions. so when a unexpected interruption of this flow of feelings, it canconfuse.one may wonder what was said that cause the open flow to cease.
pluto is sextile to the sun and these midpoints so I would not think that these interruptions last. Simply not indulging in the silence, but going on to other ideas will unusually bring the original joyous connection back. This pattern doe incline to deep or profound ideas and discussions, even with the almost light joyous ambience.
the moon is biquintile to Jupiter and quintile to pluto so there are some significant difference in how you approach the world. pluto is lnclined to show a difference in the intensity of approaching professional advancement. Often the pursuit of professional advancement will preclude emotional attachments as limitations to free expansion. this pattern tends to show it will be difficult to merge your ideas and action with each other,because the quintile shows an energy of individuality that doesn't compromise very easily.
with the moon opposed to Saturn and sextile to Uranus, in practical matters you both seem to have similar innovative ways. this opposition can be one of devotion but with Saturn at midheaven and moon at the nadir. it can give a feeling of domesticity and complementing personalities .
there, is again an element of professional needs versus relational needs.
frankly there are other aspects that indicate a intimate relationship will be difficult.
the t square of Jupiter square to Uranus opposed to the stellium of juno/Chiron and eris is very unfavorable for a harmonious relationship because of your difference and manner of reaching goals are almost opposite. This is very unstable. this pattern make me think that this is a workplace connection of that you and he have similar professional vocations. eris included can bring great passion but it does not bring intimacy. this might increase the excitement of working and being together but it is not emotionally stable. with the t square of nessus opposed othe pluto/psyche opposition, there is actually slight emotional perversity, that is a curious pleasure in causing unpleasant thoughts or emotions to exist here.
this pattern is extremely selfish or self serving even thought there is a feeling of romantic or idealist connection.
Neptune is square to the vertex . this shows that there have been feeling of a sense destiny. there have been feeling of great spiritual affinity with each other. but generally time will/has shown that these ideas or" dreams" pass with no effect. so it can give disingenuous feelings and words.
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]the node has been transiting Jupiter since the beginning of the month,so it may be this is a new interest or a new facet to an old realtiohsip.it shows favorable business and education pursuits but as the node is transit toward a square out the Uranus/Chiron opposition, I see this as a time of separation. again if this is professional then this could show expansion and advancement but if It is emotional then the separative aspects are more likely to rise between you.
the afore mentioned difference between you are more likely to come out in the next few months.
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Thanks ! Your insights are invaluable on this forum.
 

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possible good, long relationship?

hi gizela

wow there is a lot of chemistry in this chart but I am not sure if it is too hot..

mars conjunct the vertex and opposed to eris is shows lot of physical attraction and passion, but eris I not inclined to fidelity rather lives for the moment.
the physical chemistry is very intense, though, and you might feel things you haven't felt before. the vertex can give feelings that his was meant to be, but translating these physical passion into a ongoing relationship is difficult.

venus is conjunct to the sun and psyche which makes this a very romantic hookup. Jupiter is square to these which shows you both really like being with other and like to go out and have a good time. Jupiter adds feelings of commitment which is nice to see as it shows the strong passions might la to emotional intimacy .

Saturn is on the descendant which show h is set in his ways. and might not be interested in a serious relationship. in addition the mars/pluto midpoint is conjunct to Saturn ad these are square to the node. this is extremely unfavorable a it show he will be domineering and could be mean.

also the Jupiter/venus midpoint I conjunct to Neptune which is another red flag because this usually shows infidelity. but Neptune could also reflect you cultural differences. neptune can also show an excessive of alcohol or other substances. this pattern can show a excess of partying also.

the moon is biquintile which overall shows you both ar a bit independent and don't really 'mesh". this does not mean any big problems but there are many little differences that might make it difficult to feel intimate.

the moon/Saturn midpoint is square to juno and opposed to ceres which gives a feeling there could be a future or stable relationship. but this is one of many aspect which are a bit unstable.

mercury is conjunct to nessus and opposed to orcus which shows that it is not easy to say what you are feeling. this usually shows a distance between you.
he eros/psyche midpoint is conjunct to the sun and mercury which is very sensitive and fun loving but though it gives romantic feeling, I does really change some of his colder ways toward you.

but with the Jupiter/juno midpoint square to Uranus.. it I very unlikely this will turn into a long term relationship, as Uranus usually shows a breakup will occur down the line... I also think his mean streak will become a problem.

I would think that his coldness has already be a problem and the feeling of love is not so strong right now. I don't think you will be with him much longer because he I getting more sullen and moving into his domineering energies.
if he get mad or tries to start problems, I suggest you get away from him and don't try to work it out. I don't think this is going anywhere good.
rahu

hi he just stopped talking to me...suddenly
I wrote something he commented i wrote some more things...in the night 6/7th of april
than he send me some link for ragistration for race after 5 days (last thursday) but do not understand this as he knew i have registered..
from this time is silcence..
i do not feel well..as do not like such a behaviours...
if someone think i am normal good but is not interested should talk normally to me that does not have time or does not want to meet..:(


rahu a lots of chemistry from mine side or his side too?
 

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hi MMarie

you hit it on the head. the descendant conjunct to pluto and the anti-vertex is exactly what one would expect from thi pattern. the vertex is the primal energy of consciousness. conjunct the ascendant your minds are connected by this energy. pluto s symbolic of past life so with it conjunct the ascendant/vertex axis you are very likely to have had pastlife together. the synchronicities and karma you feel with him are just as you sense them.
with Jupiter square the vertex, you might have been married in a past life.
but the vertex is a comprehensive source so that means it does not solely contain the elemental awareness of humankind. as a consequence the energy of the
vertex is difficult to integrate into a"earthly" relationship.
this pattern with Jupiter square to pluto also shows the job related circumstances. The pluto/Jupiter square indicates that inthis life professional advancement is the priority rather than emotional involvements.
though the Saturn/moon midpoint is conjunct the vertex/descendant which can be an aspect of devotion and commitment. But it is not clear if there is enough spontaneous affection for this aspect to be attractive rather than stand offish.the sun/venus/mercury mp stellium is sextile to Jupiter which does both a emotional and mental attraction. it is an excellent workplace and friendship aspect with good emotional repartee.
the moon/Venus midpoint conjunct to mercury does show there is a very affectionate connection as you feel you can be open with him and your conversations tend to be humorous and joyful.
but it would seem to be more of a friendship that a romantic conection as mars is square to chiron and opposed to Saturn. this shows a no nonsense orientation and a distant and at times a critical approach to each other.although Saturn is trine to pluto and sextile to the vertex so this lends weight to the value of the past life connection affecting this live in a uniting emotional vein.in addition Neptune is sextile to Saturn and pluto and trine to the vertex. this is a very stabilizing pattern and it shows great respect and sensitivity toward each other. it is also indicative of a healing energy between you.applied to a past life,this might show that there are emotional experiences hanging in the ether that could be healed in the here in now.
really quite intriguing. as I said vertex potential is very difficult to manifest in the here and now,but the aspect here might make this occurrence more likely.
the moon is conjunct to psyche ,which does give a spiritual loving attraction and interestingly the eros/psyche midpoint is conjunct to chiro which is a odd pairing.
this indicates that instead of chiron's usual lack of tact,here criticisms are given in a delicate matter so as not to alienate each other.
the Jupiter/juno midpoint is square to mean lilith which might show there is a potential for a serious relationship but you need to use the true lilith(h13) to be sure of this aspect.
Venus is square to juno which can give a feeling of emotional intimacy and maybe something more
the current transiting node suggest that now is the time to get him involved with these potentialities as the node was conjunct to priapus from 6/4 to 6/12 and will remain in orb thru next month.
and the transiting node will square the vertex/ascendant/and pluto thru October.
so if the pst life dynamics are active thenit will be apparent.
in addition priapus might bring out a intense sexuality which might compliment a romantic affair or more. quite interesting

Thank you so much for taking the time to read this composite chart. I feel that everything you said was pretty spot on. Especially the part about healing energy between us possibly pertaining to a past life. I have this eerie sense that some pain was caused and we are back together to heal it. Whether it was a marriage like you said or mother/child (we have my karma conjunct his moon in synastry and my moon in his 8th house). We also have vertex conjunct ASC dw in synastry. Maybe this is why I feel I cannot move on from this job until I learn or settle something with him. I believe you are right about it leaning more towards friendship too shown with the stellium in 11th house. We are both slightly critical but are very sensitive and respectful with each other like you said being delicate towards one another. Appreciate all your thoughts on this. It’s honestly feelings I’ve never had before meeting him which has opened me up to the more spiritual side of life.
 

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hi camella678

you have the sun conjunct the north node.this always gives a "magic" to your life. you aura is strong and others can sense you ever when you are not around them. you affect others on the psychic plane. this tends to be an aspect of luck though if you act to selfish, negative luck can come to you.your named asteroid and the midpoint with eris is also conjunct to the node. this shows you are very passionate. you love experiencing life and emotional and physical union.
I added some other symbols.
you have a stellium of eros/psyche and the vertex.and venus is sextile to this stellum. this show you are incredibly romantic and idealistic in love. the vertex adds a otherworldly influence ,so you have had romantic attraction from the most unexpected places and people. it is as if everyone that meets you falls in love with you. and it is not all physical,it is a energy that surrounds you.
but this influences does not make serious relationship easy.with mars/venus midpoint square to Saturn , you desire a loyal companion but too often love seems to be withheld.
your veus is square to Uranus which is similar to the eros/psyche pattern, but here the attraction is very physical and electric... very passionate , but though this gives very intense passion, it is very unstable and most often the attraction is physical and not sincerely emotional, so after the physical intensity is over, these affair breakup as quickly as they arrived.
your moon/sun midpoint is also opposed to your Uranus and square your venus, so you are so very beautiful that guys will not leave you alone. you are extremely desirable and this will always be part of your fate.
this can be a mixed blessing as it will be very difficult to know who loves you for your inner self because so many are blinded by your physical appearance.
Neptune ius square to pholous and the midpointis opposed to your mercury. this gives you a very creative and artistic mind but it also shows that you are easy confused by practical matters. sometimes you are too unrealistic and do not see the reality that is around you.
your Jupiter is trine to urnausand opposed to chiron. this on the other hand shows you are very good at seeing the larger picture. that is social interactions and the way the real world works... you understand.. you have a critical mind and are quick to see hypocrisy or falsity . this pattern gives you intelligence and ability to see how situations will develop. your judgments are usually correct even if you can be too blunt at times. the pluto/chiron midpoint is conjunct to your mars.this gives you a forceful side. though you have guys throwing themselves at you, you are reserves and canbe very insensitive.this gives you a very selfish streak, where you only think of yourself.
this pattern also shows that though you are very attractive, dark and mean men often try to become involved with you.
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]in closing, you must be very careful. you draw out love from others but you also bring out jealousy and domination.never abuse the affection shown to you and always stay t a path of truth. deception will always strike you back. you have elemental forces of love and hate around you. you can not play with life,as your life has great moment.
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yeah... holy moly

starting with jupiter/chiron/node stellium opposed to the moon/Uranus/south node stellium.
which plane to start on...very strong astral/psychic connection. common dreams and communication thru dreams.
but the intensity may be too much as Uranus is within one degree on the south node and Jupiter exact on the north node.
an amazingly brilliant merging of minds with Jupiter/Chiron/Uranus /node axis. this looks like a work related relationship.chiron gives a uber analytical,forensic mental frame work .intuitive grasp of each other ideas, and I mean complex ideas being transited.
it has very rising executive vibration as well. if within a workplace it bodes sudden and vertical rise thru the relationship.
with chiron/moon/node there is an instant desire to understand each others, not only ideas, but emotional responses.it shows brilliance defining underlying dynamics of any situation.
the stellium of Venus/mars/vertex shows a very spontaneous emotional attraction in addition to the intellectual/psychic tension.
this usually gives a strong sexual/emotional tnsion but here it may be subdued as the sun/Saturn midpoint is conjunct to venus.
the emotional attraction might be a distraction if this is a business connection and vertex emotional connections can be difficult to integrate into a "normal" relationship. but with the vertex on the descendant, there is such as sense/feeling of destiny or higher powers involved in this relationship that the emotional/sexual attraction may be a unavoidable.
the eros/psyche midpoint is square to the mercury/sun midpoint which gives a underlying idealism and romantic feeling, especially when speaking from your hearts.
in addition the jun/Jupiter midpointis conjunct to the mercury/sun midpoint so the transitory emotional attraction that eros and psyche can elicit could turn into serious
consideration of a serious long term relationship.
the midpoints of mars/chiron and venus/chiron
are opposed to pluto.this would serve to lessen the emotional potential as subconscious of unconscious impressions might emerge if the relationship becomes very intimate . one may not be prepare to delve so deeply into the emotional dynamics as the other.this pattern suggest depth psychological insights will be touched on. soitis not clear if these levels of awareness can be made initially .
there seem to be a couple of deeper aspects that will temper the "normal" emotional patterns of a romantic relationship.
it seems safer to develop the common professional pursuits before allowing emotional/sexual attraction to arise.
I am still awed by the node aspects.

the moon/Saturn midpoint is opposed to mercury which adds a realism to the mental connection.
though with the strong Uranus/moon energy there may be inconsistencies as part of the relationship wants to advance quickly while another part is much more cautious ... maybe a back and forth thing. though with so much nodal energy this relationship should not be confused with normal inactions.
there is a curious pattern of eris opposed to cupid and square to the Saturn/pluto midpoint. I think this must be considered with the aspect of psyche square to Saturn.
and with nessus square to the vertex.
these aspect generally point it emotional/sexual dynamics of a darker nature or of meshing of pleasure/pain-love/hate dynamics.
the juno/Jupiter etc aspects are more socially normal emotional interactions. But the former patterns tend to show a manipulative or domineering need.that is the emotional fulfillment can be connected to other selfish desires. it just seems that the romantic nature of the relationship will be very ....unusual or difficult.
but still the professional patterns are so very strong, it would behoove you to stay on the professional connection fro awhile.

I went out with this guy and it was like having dinner with my grandpa. He was completely boring and dry!
I've never been on a date with someone more rigid...lol. it's not that he didn't talk, he did, but it was all about work and his professional pursuits. No thanks!
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Just wanted to give you some feedback on my in person interaction with this guy. Thanks again for your reading[/FONT]
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hi vansio

looking at last year for the point of separation , I noticed something I hadn't seen. the vertex/node midpoint is conjunct to Saturn.
this aspects is the major reason that you said:
"I am still connected to him psychically and the universe makes a note of this often."
this aspect shows that in addition to the human emotions and experiences ,there was also a outstanding otherworldly connection. this shows that you both had similar paranormal or synchronistic experiences, that though different had the same affect on both of your lives. this very often gives feeling of destiny involved in the relationship, but this pattern is the strongest I have seen in this regard.
looking at last year ,the period that shows the sudden breakup was around the 7th-8th of November as the south node was conjunct to Saturn and the transiting Uranus was square to the transiting node.

I wished I could be more positive but that configuration is such a powerful aspect of separation that it is difficult to see the wounds being healed in the near future.
the only near aspect that might ameliorate this dynamic is the pattern of Uranus trine to Sedna and sextile to pallas. this aspect shows a commitment to the highest standard of truth and vision to each other.i can see why you must have been devastated at first because, the importance of truth is ingrained in the relationship, and it is difficult to see how these common views could have allowed a sudden breakup. the south node will trine to pallas and sextile to Sedna in October with the south node conjunct Uranus on 0ct 15th October .
this could elicit the uniting sense of his commitment to truth. you inner strength is your ace.

Thank you for your additional comments and information. To clarify for your studies, our exact sudden breakup dates coincided with the summer eclipses, notably hitting this vertex/node midpoint. July 27th was the day he revealed me about his growing feelings for another woman (who resembles me; during my temporary long-distance) to August 11th, the breakup was finalized. Long story short, the other person didn’t actually want to be with him after all the karma stirring - so your notes on the “truth” is poignant. In our pre-breakup conversations, I couldn’t stress ‘the truth’ enough to him, but he at this point, was in another world. Eventually, but not without heavy-vetting from spirit, I told him I would never stand in the way of “true love” and for him to follow his heart—I knew he had go find out something for himself.
He won’t speak to me currently. Betrayal wounds. (Curious, Ixion?) It had been devastating as it genuinely did not make sense the transference of our energy to an unrequited third person, and the extent of sabotage and manipulation said-person was able to perpetuate.
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]“Outstanding otherworldly/paranormal synchronistic”, from beginning (2015) to today, is fatefully almost an understatement. On that note, we’re from separate countries and we met while he impromptu took a trip abroad, the synchronicities leading up to our meeting were outright predestined, and delivered. Upon our first encounter, we instantly became partners and I moved country. Also, I realized a year into our relationship, that actually, although we met ‘on our own’ and by chance, a mutual friend had connected us by email in CC: months prior as my beloved was looking for a summer sublet in my city he was planning to visit—funny I almost replied to this request but the dates didn’t line up, I still have the draft. Our dead dolphin paranormal synchronicity was the most concentrated one but I wont ramble more into the extent of these synchronicities here now because the count is indefinite, and largely, apparated between our souls. [/FONT]

thanks for the feedback.
checking the july date,it turns out the south node was transiting the vertex by a degree and transiting mars was one to degree the vertex. the composite Jupiter/Uranus midpoint was square the transiting node by a degree. Jupiter/Uranus square the node is a classic breakup aspect
 

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what about this one? I kinda like him but not too much yet

hi Keela Dal

this composite also has the vertex axis on the ascendant axis with Pluto conjunct the ascendant.
this shows that past lives are likely affecting this life this this person.
with Saturn/ mars square to pluto, the present interactions are rather harsh and controlling.
with the sun/moon midpoint conjunct to the node nd nessus and square to the asteroid karma,the likelihood is great that this is a past life relationship.
but it seems not to be one of great affection.it seems to be one of subjugation.
venus is conjunct to psyche and these are on the Lilith axis showing a spontaneous upwelling of idealistic, spiritual attraction .
I get ambivalent feelings here because of the darkness and the idealistic expectations.
with Saturn sextile to the moon, there is an easy rapport between you and the midpoint is conjunct to pallas which suggest these feelings give you emotional elation. But Neptune forms a sword of god with Saturn and the moon which bodes that there is deception beneath the feelings of loyalty.
the eros/psyche midpoint is square to Uranus and chiron shows a electric emotional attraction, but one that is unstable. with chiron,it is likely that nothing you will do can satisfy him. \
Jupiter is trine to nessus and the south node and sextile to vesta and opposed to mercury which shows a favorable mental connection with and respect and interest in formal relations possible.this aspect often shows a connection to e workplace of an education endeavor as both are very intelligent
the node will be conjunct to the psyche/Saturn, Saturn/venus,mrs/psyche and mars/Venus midpoints between aug 18th and 24th . I think this is what you are starting to pick up now as the node is with orb.
I am still ambilvalent as I can see the potential of emotional manipulation as the mars/Saturn/pluto aspect show both love and pain as part of their expressions
as your asteroid is square to Saturn and pluto and as orcus is square Uranus/eros/psyche and his asteroid is opposed to orcus , the more this seems a dominant/submissive chart as pain and pleasure are intertwined. union position suggest you will get together but it seems to be a relationship based on his domination of you.

My Saturn is on his South Node (the composite Venus-Psyche) & his ASC on my NN so I figured past things might come into play one way or another. I believe they say the planet person collects & the SN "pays" whatever debt owed. I've been going through thoughts to do with the fear of loss (all the way to loss because of death) in recent times which already seems potentially helpful for whatever in the future, clearing such things out. He and someone else also with their SN on my Saturn have both lead to working on it in good ways.

I saw the Karma-square to Sun/Moon and wondered what you were going to say about it along with the SN-Nessus. Not sure if the Pluto-Kaali fuelling the Ascendant-Antivertex ties into such things as well.
I'm more or less amused because my first attraction was in part to a side that presents as fairly harsh or severe compared to many other people - but comes with backbone & uprightness, admirable things to an extent. An idealistic view or perception mixed in with harsher tones.
A secondary factor is that he at other times also provokes my partial liking of "dominant" men, and I'm not one to willingly submit to most people. "Measure up or be found wanting" Leo sides? So it seems that I very much so feel things in the composite by nature (and not necessarily as bad things, IF done with someone trustworthy enough in controlled ways - although I'm not in any D/S circles).
Eros/Psyche MP is actually conjunct Uranus-Destinn & opposite Chiron, square Ceres. I think it was far too far to square Orcus although it's next to Ceres.
He is fairly intelligent (as am I) but no idea of sides as per your description otherwise for now.
My birthday is August 22 and I looked to have a possibly stunning solar return chart with three different Parts of Marriage hit by things (including the 6 Capricorn SR ASC on what I consider the "main" PoM) and tons of things in SR 7H. SR Sun-Juno conj Venus conj Vertex conjunct Mars. My "Arabic" Ascendant is around 14 Cancer as well for whatever it's worth, SR Saturn on its DSC at the time.
This person LIKELY isn't anybody I'd want for a longer term partner as I currently see things, but I wondered what I was getting out of it (aside feeling the sexual sides of Mars on my ASC), clearly having the connection. Clearing past things out of the way perhaps.
Not sure if love & pain being mixed ties to working on clearing the fear of loss style things or what, but as said, there are times when submitting is the "desire" he invokes internally through parts of him "screaming" dominance. No idea if there'd sometime be trust enough or if he'd be "worthy/good" enough to consider dwelling into such regions or not. Releasing control perhaps part of the issue, after reading all that. I retain an iron grip on personal control even when drunk. I'll see about the rest over time, but thank you for the analysis at this time now,
 

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About this specific guy, I'm not sure why but I feel that I wanna get closer to him, but I'm not feeling that warm energy exchange. Not that I'm not feeling it, but it feels like it's resisted from me. And act too lighthearted instead which hampers any warmth that could be felt. Like I throw it away without wanting to.

hi Brenda_S

your descriptions are very close to what I see in the chart. I really can't be to encouraging as this doesn't look like a chart that will get off the ground.
a main reason is him..... he is not emotional and he is very concerned with his professional life/money/power.
Saturn is conjunct the node which gives a strong aura but usually of a selfish nature. he definitely has substance whether it is good or bad.
the node and Saturn are opposed to chiron/Jupiter midpoint. this really increases his material ambitions and it can show he is into some level of magic.he is quite ruthless and probably belongs to a organization or a corporations that are among the powers that be in society.

there is muchmore to him that one can see,but either for good or bad,he has is a strong controlling and manipulative
personality

there's no question that there is a very affectionate and enchanting emotional ambience between you. theses planets give attraction and fluid and humorous emotional connection.
Uranus adds a breathtaking electric feeling with him. this usually is the energy of an immediate sexual attraction and affair but one that ends as quick as it began.

Neptune opposed to the stellium is a bit problematic . though it adds to the sexual chemistry, it also weakens the formation of sincere and biding intimacy. it is very momentary and anything said in intimate moments cannot be taken as......sincere.
the Jupiter/Uranus midpoint is square to chiron and the venus/Jupiter midpoint is conjunct chiron . these are very intense vibration of attraction but very unstable and unlikely to coalesce into to anything serious.chiron centrality suggest there are just to many difference in how you see the world for anything other than a temporal rendezvous.
it would not surprise me if this preoccupation just began in may ,and as the nodal axis is transiting from this opposition until next year, this might be quite bit of fun till then.

though looking it over this probably started in professional/employment area as there were strong affiliating energies as far back as October of 2018. there is a good chance of a romantic relationship as I said towards the end of the year. I would think it likely will end up a off and on liaison at best

[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]quote:[/FONT] Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Thanks so much Todd.
I had written an entire response that for some reason got deleted before I had a chance to post so needed a break before responding again lol.
Time past since then so I'm seeing things a bit clearer... Yeah I don't think it'll get off the ground. It feels involving and all but in Synastry the only aspect to my Venus is his Uranus and I'm feeling it really strongly which I didn't at first. He does everything right but I'm still feeling a certain disconnect. I'm curious though why you're saying "he has a strong controlling and manipulative
personality"? I don't think I picked up on that thus far. Which aspect/placement would indicate such in this case?


And it's crazy that our first interaction as you said began in May! Pretty insane lol.
the node and Saturn are opposed to chiron/Jupiter midpoint. this is the aspect that shows a selfiosh and manipulating outlook. this is extremely ambitious and emotional relationships are secondary. you haven't felt this part of him yet, because the pattern of venues opposed to Neptune and sextile to pluto gives a very sensitive ,supportive emotional response to each other. but this sextile pattern is not enough to offset the selfishness that underlays the composite as a whole.

[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]the sun/mercury conjunction is opposed to Uranus which gives a very intense intellectual and psychic connection with him.
likely everything he has said has proved correct.
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Hey What is your opinion on this composite?
And which do you think is better? Both are love interests
Would greatly appreciate your unique insights ❤️ Thank you


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hi LunaIscariot

you speak of multiples but thee is only one.
the node pluto conjunction with the node square to Saturn usually a bit reserved to say the least.here with juno conjunct Saturn and cupid the focus would be on a serious relationship or marriage. the moon/sun midpoint is square to this stellium so this really places a premium on a committed relationship/marriage.the Jupiter/juno midpoint is square to he moon which again shows the seriousness of the relationship.
Pluto/node can give past life connections but in the present reality it tends top be uncompromising.
the Saturn/moon midpoint is square to chiron which adds a distance. this can show there will be too much criticism and non acceptance of you are.this can show a lot I=of nit picky and a need to mold the other. the pluto/Saturn already has a similar element so it maybe that there is too much inflexibility.
the sun/mercury/venus stellium is vey affectionate and good spirited.it shows a readiness to open to each other.
it looks like the mars/venus midpoint is conjunct to Lilith though you might add true Lilith to see how exact this is. as it is,it shows a spontaneous affection rising effortlessly from both of you
the mars/Uranus conjunction is square to the mars/venus conjunction which really adds intensity and sensitivity to the emotional feelings.but this is a problematic aspect because though it cans tart intensely, it can also lack duration.it tends to show expectations about each other that are realistic or unattainable the eros/psyche midpoint is conjunct to the moon with adds a idealistic,romantic feeling to the already affectionate connection you have.
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this one has a favorable stellium with Jupiter/juno and venus. this tends toward a formal relationship though it can also reflect a good office friendship.

pluto on thee descendant shows a self centeredness in the relationship though pluto is trine to the sun/mercury midpoint and trine to mars. this gives a openness which might temper pluto's selfishness.
mars opposed to Uranus adds a vibrancy which would lighten up the ponderous nature of pluto.
but the Saturn/Neptune square is usually problematic as it shows a hesitancy to beforth right. this aspect can be manipulative behind hidden motives.
with Neptune square to the vertex, it seems there is much not being revealed.i would expect him to be very private about this life ingeneral.
the Uranus/Saturn midpoint is opposed to the moon/chiron midpoint and even though moon is trine to chiron which would show a informative and critical rapport, the opposition makes this a argumentative pattern.
nessus is square the venus stellium which really dampens any emotional excitement and looks more like emotional affection becomes conditional to accepting certain "guidelines". that is there does not seem to be any spontaneity to the emotions .
then with the Saturn/moon midpoint opposed to Pluto, there really is blocked emotional feelings and likely a test of wills would develop. it just seems there are too many emotional blocks here to take advantage of the venus/Jupiter/juno stellium in terms of a serious relationship



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hi MMarie

there I a favorable stellium with pluto/sun/venus/ceres . this shows there is a affectionate feeling between you.pluto can be some hat difficult to figure out as it can add intensity or can withdraw for obscure reasons or feelings.with ceres involved the affection takes on a supportive nature. this might be felt as clingy or needy if only one of the partners is interested in a serious relationship.
another common problem with pluto is that it often is desire oriented meaning that deeper emotional intimacy is nota priority. usually this difficult arises when one of the partners is only into the hookup for a sexual tryst. the other partner will sometimes lose their sexual interest after it becomes clear that only the physical attributes re important.
so this stellium has the potential for opposite responses. maybe the feeling of a closer and supportive relationship were too close to the pluto nature. so he bcked off.
with Lilith opposed to aphrodite and priapus with moon square this opposition, this chart could easily revolved around the sexual attraction or expectations. These are hot aspects. with moon maybe you were ffected by the sexual chemistry more than he was.
the tsquare of Neptune opposed to mars/Jupiter opposition is very duplicitous.
this is an aspect of a player even though there might be actions of devotion. but in terms of long term this aspect often shows a persons who has more than one intimate relationship at a time .
okay this gets very complicated emotionally....
the mars/Venus, mars/sun, mars/ceres and mars/pluto midpoints are square to the node/vertex/desc.
the complications arise because both the physical plan of love and sex is connected to otherworldy/paranormal planes of energy.
so on one hand there is old fashioned hot to trot feelings but these are eemeshed with the ensations of higher etheric energys...so you get a unreal sexual experience but often snes of destiny occurs also . soi may bcie diddicukt to focus or each others"real" emotions.
the vertex and node with the descedt is indicative of a extremely close psychihc connection. this can show you read each others thoughts exactly. the vertex add the sense of destiny as you both likely had very similar strange experiences or sensations in your lives. these other worldly occurrences are usually so strange that you would never think you could find another person who would understand... so part of he attraction here is this common experience of "karmic" feelings, sensations or visions.
the problem is that these vertex experiences, though the can bring you very close, don't translate well into a real relationship. so here the physical attraction is very strong but this "other" intensity is also present and does not always add to the relationship.
the Uranus /juno conjunction is opposed to psyche/eros midpoint which suggest that very early on there was very strong, affectionate feeling that this could become committed relationship.
mercury sextile to the moon shows you really got along well with each other, it was easy to talk and generally hangout together. though with the nessus/dejaniera midpoint square to mercury , there might have been times when he was needlessly rude,critical or abrupt. I'm sure he is still attracted but probably for the sexual connection as that is very strong , but for long term relationship, it does't seem favorable

Hi
thank you so much for this. Like all of your readings, a lot of this resonates with me. Definitely a lot of chemistry at least sexual chemistry but maybe not long term. It is an odd relationship because there is a sense of caring for one another which may cloud my judgement about it being more sexual as opposed to emotional. I actually feel as though he had the strong feelings of “it going somewhere� in the beginning and was pushing more for a relationship where I was a bit more laid back and actually confused by his aggressive pursuing. I have always got the feeling of him being a player and was cautious of whether he was the cheating type which is why I think there was a loss of contact. Not that we were in a committed relationship, but this prevented me from feeling safe to move forward to something more serious - and not even sure he wanted to. Not sure if you follow numerology but the one thing I found interesting was that we are both life path 11’s and met on 11.11.2018(add 2018=11) weird!
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I’m diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder.

hi soulflower

I looked up your chart and added a few symbols. usually Borderline Personality Disorder or for that matter all these subjective psychological categories that have come in vogue, have a polarized Saturn and Uranus.
you have a stellium of sun/Saturn/Jupiter/Venus/Sedna square to Uranus and juno.

the first thing that stands out is the intricate social environment your BPD occurs in.this is not usually what one would expect ,as more often the dynamics are not socially prominent as psychological prominent. what I mean is that your "BPD" does not seem "psychological " to me... it is a function a dysfunctional family group.

Orcus is opposed to Uranus and juno and square the Saturn stellium.
this aspect can be abusive. Emotionally or another ways. here with Jupiter and juino involved it seems to me that authority figures in your household are dysfunctional. you have Sedna in your stellium and this shows you are a truth seeker/truth teller. so what I am picking up is that you have expressed thoughts about the family group that may have been to close to the truth. and your words are being refuted and you analyst has accepted their view of your "problem". it could be an abusive environment that you spoke about but it is clear to me that you are being strung up as a mentally deficient person because you see the truth that your family is lying about or unconscious of the abusive heritage of your family.

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hi MMarie

you hit it on the head. the descendant conjunct to pluto and the anti-vertex is exactly what one would expect from thi pattern. the vertex is the primal energy of consciousness. conjunct the ascendant your minds are connected by this energy. pluto s symbolic of past life so with it conjunct the ascendant/vertex axis you are very likely to have had pastlife together. the synchronicities and karma you feel with him are just as you sense them.
with Jupiter square the vertex, you might have been married in a past life.
but the vertex is a comprehensive source so that means it does not solely contain the elemental awareness of humankind. as a consequence the energy of the
vertex is difficult to integrate into a"earthly" relationship.
this pattern with Jupiter square to pluto also shows the job related circumstances. The pluto/Jupiter square indicates that inthis life professional advancement is the priority rather than emotional involvements.
though the Saturn/moon midpoint is conjunct the vertex/descendant which can be an aspect of devotion and commitment. But it is not clear if there is enough spontaneous affection for this aspect to be attractive rather than stand offish.the sun/venus/mercury mp stellium is sextile to Jupiter which does both a emotional and mental attraction. it is an excellent workplace and friendship aspect with good emotional repartee.
the moon/Venus midpoint conjunct to mercury does show there is a very affectionate connection as you feel you can be open with him and your conversations tend to be humorous and joyful.
but it would seem to be more of a friendship that a romantic conection as mars is square to chiron and opposed to Saturn. this shows a no nonsense orientation and a distant and at times a critical approach to each other.although Saturn is trine to pluto and sextile to the vertex so this lends weight to the value of the past life connection affecting this live in a uniting emotional vein.in addition Neptune is sextile to Saturn and pluto and trine to the vertex. this is a very stabilizing pattern and it shows great respect and sensitivity toward each other. it is also indicative of a healing energy between you.applied to a past life,this might show that there are emotional experiences hanging in the ether that could be healed in the here in now.
really quite intriguing. as I said vertex potential is very difficult to manifest in the here and now,but the aspect here might make this occurrence more likely.
the moon is conjunct to psyche ,which does give a spiritual loving attraction and interestingly the eros/psyche midpoint is conjunct to chiro which is a odd pairing.
this indicates that instead of chiron's usual lack of tact,here criticisms are given in a delicate matter so as not to alienate each other.
the Jupiter/juno midpoint is square to mean lilith which might show there is a potential for a serious relationship but you need to use the true lilith(h13) to be sure of this aspect.
Venus is square to juno which can give a feeling of emotional intimacy and maybe something more
the current transiting node suggest that now is the time to get him involved with these potentialities as the node was conjunct to priapus from 6/4 to 6/12 and will remain in orb thru next month.
and the transiting node will square the vertex/ascendant/and pluto thru October.
so if the pst life dynamics are active thenit will be apparent.
in addition priapus might bring out a intense sexuality which might compliment a romantic affair or more. quite interesting
todd

Hi Todd, Thank you so much for taking the time to read this composite chart. I feel that everything you said was pretty spot on. Especially the part about healing energy between us possibly pertaining to a past life. I have this eerie sense that some pain was caused and we are back together to heal it. Whether it was a marriage like you said or mother/child (we have my karma conjunct his moon in synastry and my moon in his 8th house). We also have vertex conjunct ASC dw in synastry. Maybe this is why I feel I cannot move on from this job until I learn or settle something with him. I believe you are right about it leaning more towards friendship too shown with the stellium in 11th house. We are both slightly critical but are very sensitive and respectful with each other like you said being delicate towards one another. Appreciate all your thoughts on this. It’s honestly feelings I’ve never had before meeting him which has opened me up to the more spiritual side of life.
 

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I would like to know your opinion on this composite, I've been reading your replies in composites and I really like them, they're very insightful and helpful so please can you give me some insight in this composite

hi nezumi-chan

on first glance the composite seems simple or straight forward but there are aspects that reveal a unusual spiritual emotional connection .
the stellium of the node/sun//chiron/aphrodite shows an amazing "oneness",that is,it is as if you both live in the same moment,feel the same emotions and are connected by a great love.
this unconditional affection might make one think that you two are the same always, but with chiron part of the stellium, though you have a strong psychic connection to each other,you both always questioning each other as there is desire to understand each other completely. this makes for very interesting conversation, analyzing the world around you and the world that connects you. this is an aspect of inspired intelligence ,so you both have remarkable minds for ferreting out the truth in any matter.
this shows unusually intelligent and cogent minds are accentuated by mercury opposed to chiron. you both have minds for details and are both clear and coherent in you presentations. what is unusual is that this opposition can bring arguments, but with your minds united in love, cold logic never interferes with the relationship.
really a striking pattern of aspects . the relationship affects others as all can sense the special energies this relationship brings out.
mar is conjunct to venus which shows the full love and attraction you have for each other.with mas/venus trine to Neptune and opposed to Saturn, you feeling are devoted to each other and there is strong healing and centering energy you bring to each other.
though these aspects show a steady and calm affection, mars/venus is 1/16 harmonic to the node with shows a burning passion beneath the calmness.
also the mars/venus conjunction is 2/11th harmonic to pluto. this raise the emotional relationship to a higher plane of awareness. it is as if you know that the relationship will lead to higher mutual and individual spiritual clearness.your love is a means to cause you both to turn toward higher realities of perception. this pattern could imply, past live memories are part of the spiritual connection here.
the spiritual aspirations of the relationship are shown by the pluto/mars-venus midpoints being square to Neptune/Uranus midpoint. this aspect can pose problems if both are not of higher minds/aspirations, if lower desire passion is involved then this Neptune square can show infidelity and disillusionment. with Uranus in the mix, sometimes emotional stability is difficult to achieve in a relationship. this pattern can bring dreams and visions of what could be, but often grander plans are envisioned than can be brought to fruition.but this aspect is kindred to the overall aspiration to higher realities than runs through the relationship. thi sapsct also adds to the already strong sexual/love between you,and I would think that sexuality takes on a tantric/spiritual sensation times.
the juno/Jupiter midpoint tis conjunct to Neptune. this could be a indicator of a mixed racial/religious relationship. Neptune can lead to dispersive tendencies but here with mars/venus trine to Neptune ,I would have to think that his adds to he emotional realization of the importance of a committed relationship or marriage.

I speak of this a relationship but there are also hard aspects that might keep this relationship distant.

Jupiter is square to Saturn which is can be an obstacle to commitment and marriage.this would imply that he does not want a social structure imposed on his life.

in addition the Jupiter/Uranus and Jupiter/neptune midpoints are square to the node stellium.
in a "normal"chart these would be very unfavorable. and here I think it adds to the uncertainty of the reality of a relationship.

with the conjunction of isis and Osiris semi square to the moon,it is implied that you have saved him or you both have been saved from destructive episodes in your early lives.it might be your mutual escape from early vicissitudes that have gendered this acknowledgement of the deep streams of destiny bringing you together.


Wow thank you so much for the reading @todd!! It was so spot on, I have thought so many times that he and I are very similar and have many things in common. You're so right about the questioning each other part... to be honest I don't understand him completely and I don't know if he understands me either, he's very confusing to me most of the time.
You're also so spot on about the burning passion beneath the calmness and about emotional stability being difficult to achieve. We're from different countries so you're right about mixed racial relationship.
About mariage, I think I'm more of the kind of not wanting a social structure imposed in my life, I'm ok with not getting married but he does want to get married (at least that's what he once mentioned).
I also have felt that sometimes the relationship is kept distant and it also has an uncertainty quality so you're spot on there too. About the Isis and Osiris conjunction, when we were going through difficult times, we used to support each other and we also came togheter and grew close due to a shared difficult time we went through, he helped me to heal from that quickly.
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Again, thank you so much for your very spot on reading [/FONT]
 

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Hi Rahu, you may have already mentioned this, but how wide of an orb do you give transits from the nodes?

Also am curious about this:

"When there are nodal transits, negative thoughts in one mind allows the negative intention of black magicians to penetrate and affect you."

Would this be a nodal transit to any planet or point in a chart or certain planets or points more than others?

Does this work in synastry as well, where a person with their nodal axis in aspect to another persons planets or points can control the person by using black magic on them?

What if someone has their natal South Node in conjunction with another persons personal planet, would the planet person be susceptible to black magic? Would the nodal person be susceptible to black magic as well?

I'm also curious about how Kabbalah has to do with black magic? Do you have any sources so I can read up on this or can you explain? Thank you.
 
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