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david starling
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As far as the Saturn/Pluto conjunction is concerned:
Events are set in motion. Looks like a 3 degree Orb is effective. There was one in 1914, the year WWI started. Also 1947-48, start of the Cold War, Partition of India and formation of modern-day Israel. This recent, deadly "turmoil" in Iraq, which included the U.S. putting out a hit on a top Iranian official , an attack on an American army base, and a vow of vengeance by Iran, is within range. Also the deadly Ukrainian(!) plane crash that may have been shot down in Iran, and the many deaths at the recent Soleimani funeral can be included. Not business as usual.
Chrysalis
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In 1284 there was a late Capricorn Saturn pluto conjunction with also Jupiter in the same sign. At this time Wales was taken over by the Uk, which caused them to be under the English monarchy and part of the UK, which Wales didn't want. This was then also the year of the first prince of wales (Edward ii). Now Queen Elizabeth is getting old, so if Prince Charles takes over, there will then be a new Prince of Wales (William). So as we are at this Saturn/Pluto conjunction in Capricorn again inc Jupiter, are we going to have a new Prince of Wales from the result of Queen Elizabeth's death? Who knows.
But then again we currently have some Royal Family issues that have arisen already to do with Harry and Megan, so maybe this is going to be the results of changes between Wales/England just like that happened all the way back in 1284, but instead of this time Wales/England being dramatically brought together they are dramatically split apart.
david starling
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Yes, it can about events ending, and events starting. You're right, this British royalty event fits right in.
Chrysalis
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The Saturn/Pluto conjunction takes place on Queen Elizabeths Ascendant which is at 21,24 Capricorn. So all this sudden Royal upset makes perfect sense.
and Vegans
God allowed man to eat every animal in Genesis 9:3 (the most probable reason being that finding food was tough after the flood) with the exception of their blood, later he prohibits the Israelites from eating only certain animals and their products, exception being honey. Milk from cows and eggs from chicken are permissible, as their meat are.
Ukpoohbear
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Of course, that passage was written at a time where humans needed meat to survive. Now there are lots of vegan options and even choosing a vegan milk over a milk where the mother cow was forcibly impregnated would help to save millions of animals lives. Choosing to pick up some tofu and fry it at home instead of the meat from a murdered sentient being.
Religion and consciousness has developed too. More of us are now becoming aware that the littlest of actions contribute to the biggest of actions for example the use of water in the meat industry and how it’s contributed to the drought in Australia. Choosing a vegan milk over stealing milk from a baby is one of those conscious choices.
Religion and consciousness has developed too. More of us are now becoming aware that the littlest of actions contribute to the biggest of actions for example the use of water in the meat industry and how it’s contributed to the drought in Australia. Choosing a vegan milk over stealing milk from a baby is one of those conscious choices.
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JUPITERASC
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Humans should not eat meat
Meat May Cause Food Poisoning in Humans
Humans have weaker stomach acids
that are similar to those found in animals who digest pre-chewed fruits and vegetables.
Without carnivorous stomach acids to kill the bacteria in meat,
dining on animal flesh can give us food poisoning
https://www.peta.org/features/are-humans-supposed-to-eat-meat/
Meat May Cause Food Poisoning in Humans
Humans have weaker stomach acids
that are similar to those found in animals who digest pre-chewed fruits and vegetables.
Without carnivorous stomach acids to kill the bacteria in meat,
dining on animal flesh can give us food poisoning
https://www.peta.org/features/are-humans-supposed-to-eat-meat/
Ukpoohbear
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Check this ex-gangster turned vegan activist out, he’s a light worker but he don’t know it (and he’s cute too so easy on the aul’ eye). Jesus was a lightworker, now if you take this message in you are being given a message form the universe to choose love over murder just by making different choices at the supermarket.
https://youtu.be/TWTiFyjz274
https://youtu.be/TWTiFyjz274
Ukpoohbear
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Humans should not eat meat
Meat May Cause Food Poisoning in Humans
Humans have weaker stomach acids
that are similar to those found in animals who digest pre-chewed fruits and vegetables.
Without carnivorous stomach acids to kill the bacteria in meat,
dining on animal flesh can give us food poisoning
https://www.peta.org/features/are-humans-supposed-to-eat-meat/
Not to mention the person who eats meat is eating the flesh from murdered sentient beings who clearly show signs of not wanting to be killed
True story: I was talking to a guy from tinder who seemed nice and then he told me he was a butcher. After 30 minutes of me questioning whether what he does is murder or not he asked me why I was trying to make him feel bad, as if the animals he butchers don’t feel bad.
The point is, we are all similar in our moral code that even the most hardened of meat eater will disagree with murder and violence. Then why is there a disconnect between the moral code and the actions? Especially when you can go to a supermarket and just make a different choice, forcing the industry to react by the rule of supply and demand.
choose love 
Opal
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Just clarifying the definition of Kosher and Halal, and strict Christian dietary rules. All of them follow the same rules.
Kashrut and Halal do not follow the same rules (camels for example), though some are similar (pork for example). The majority of Christian denominations do not follow dietary rules, although some like Seventh-Day Adventists (rightly or wrongly) enforce even stricter rules than the ones described in the Bible for the Israelites (which they are not). But read the end of Colossians 2 which is written for the Gentiles. 1 Timothy 4 lists ''commanding to abstain from foods'' among the doctrine of demons in the latter times. Laxity and excessive man-made restrictions are equally condemned in the Bible.
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JUPITERASC
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Adventists live significantly longer and have better health than the average non-adventist in the USA mostly due to their diet and because they avoid smoking. Yet, this still does not allow one to burden others with man-made commandments. This also applies to vegans.
a brief comparison between herbivores and humans
highlighting that humans are much closer to herbivores
than to meat eating animals.
i.e.
Humans are clearly not designed to digest and ingest meat
Meat-eaters have claws
Herbivores have no claws
Humans have no claws
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Meat-eaters: have no skin pores and perspire through the tongue
Herbivores: perspire through skin pores
Humans: perspire through skin pores
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Meat-eaters: have sharp front teeth for tearing
with no flat molar teeth for grinding
Herbivores: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grinding
Humans: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grinding
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Meat-eaters: have intestinal tract only three times their body length
so that rapidly decaying meat can pass through quickly
Herbivores: have intestinal tract ten – twelve times their body length.
Humans: have intestinal tract ten – twelve times their body length.
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Meat-eaters: have strong hydrochloric stomach acid to digest meat
Herbivores: have stomach acid twenty times weaker than that of a meat-eater
Humans: have stomach acid twenty times weaker than that of a meat-eater
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Meat-eaters: salivary glands in mouth are not needed to pre-digest grains and fruits.
Herbivores: well-developed salivary glands which are necessary to pre-digest grains and fruits
Humans: well-developed salivary glands, which are necessary to pre-digest, grains and fruits
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Meat-eaters: have acid saliva with no enzyme ptyalin to pre-digest grains
Herbivores: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains
Humans: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains
Ukpoohbear
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Adventists live significantly longer and have better health than the average non-adventist in the USA mostly due to their diet and because they avoid smoking. Yet, this still does not allow one to burden others with man-made commandments. This also applies to vegans.
Eating meat or not wasn’t one of the Ten Commandments so I think it’s a stretch to say that following a vegan diet is a man-made commandment. One of them was love they neighbour and if there is anything I take from my Christian upbringing it is the Good Samaritan philosophy and the philosophy about being a ‘good Christian.’ But I have an aversion to taking any of the bible literally. And I think if we look at the changing landscape, it can easily be applied that being a good Christian means to stop allowing animals to suffer needlessly in todays context, since we don’t need meat and it’s harmful to the environment.
Did I read you say that the bible evolved too, like when god asked someone to sacrifice a child and it was a trick to see how far the person would go, so Jesus’ actions evolved throughout the bible, becoming less vengeful as time moved away from the Old Testament?
Save some animals, man.
Ukpoohbear
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Ukpoohbear
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And Islam banning pork was because during the time it was written people were dying from eating it, so it was banned for health reasons, rather than actual Mohammad religious reasons.
david starling
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We've got a polite, mini Trad/Mod argument going on in the "What is an Astrological Planet" thread. 