david starling
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This mental voyage took several years to reach its current state of completion, but I'll just describe what worked without describing the complications in getting there.
First, I studied the well-known sidereal Ages relative to the Western historical timeline. I preferred to stay within the limits of recorded history, so, I began with the middle portion of the sidereal Age of Taurus, when written language and the inventions and monument-building that accompanied it began in the Tigris-Euphrates valley, c.3500 B.C.E., with the rise of the 1st Dynasty of Ancient Egypt at about 3100 B.C.E.
Like so many others, I was using the Year 2000 as the start-date for the sidereal Age of Aquarius (this was in the early 1980s), and 2150 year Ages, giving an Age of sidereal Taurus beginning around 4300 B.C.E. No internet, so I spent a lot of library hours reading about ancient history, and making correlations. I theorized that the development of cultures should correlate to the Ages, and found quite a few good correlations. But, I also noticed that cultures which developed in one Age, didn't fall apart when that Age ended, they often remained as background to new cultures that developed in the next Age. This is the "overlapping of Ages" phenomenon, which many of those studying the Ages have also noticed.
Then, a wake-up call from a radio interview with the first Western siderealists I'd become aware of, and one of them said, (paraphrasing), "there aren't any tropical Ages, and all you tropical astrologers have no business co-opting our Age of Aquarius".
I thought about it and found myself agreeing with him. The astronomical point that tells us about the ending of the Piscean Age and the beginning of the Aquarian Age, is available as a transiting point ONLY in the sidereal zodiac, which is affixed to the constellations. It can't transit the tropical zodiac because it's already in use, locating the First Point of tropical Aries.
I decided to see if there even WAS a way to find a transiting Age-indicator for the tropical zodiac. I first reasoned that, if a tropical Sign-boundary is pointing at the Age-degree in the sidereal zodiac, maybe a sidereal Sign-boundary could do that tropically. So, I considered the 2 types of zodiacal wheels together, superimposed upon on another. Holding the sidereal wheel stationary, the tropical wheel rotates around it in retrograde fashion, and there's a convergence of spokes (Sign-boundaries) when each new sidereal Age begins. The one tropical spoke that is supposed to matter, meaning the one that points out the sidereal Age, is the first boundary of tropical Aries, known in modern astronomy as the Vernal Equinoctial Point, used as the first point in astronomy's Right Ascension measuring system.
But, as I saw it, it wasn't just a convergence of spokes of the two zodiacal wheels. It was also a convergence of measured, astrologically created, 30 degree intervals. Much is made of the convergence of the both the spokes and the Signs of the same name at the beginning of the Age of sidereal Pisces. But, all the emphasis has been placed on one spoke of the tropical wheel, regarding the Ages. So, I expanded it to what I called the "Age Interval" (now, the "Age Window") which in this case included BOTH boundaries of tropical Aries, first AND last. So, now I had a measured, astrological reason for the overlap of Ages--a foreground Age (which I refer to as "the Age of..."); and, a concurrent background Age. For example, the Sidereal Age of Aries had a Taurian background Age, etc. And, that helped account for the overlap of cultures as well.
All right, so as I now label it, tropical Aries became the "Age Window" for the sidereal zodiac. And then, the BIG question I asked myself--in a quid pro quo manner, with the tropical wheel held stationary, and the sidereal wheel rotating through it with Direct-motion, WHICH SIDEREAL-SIGN should be the Age Window that transits the tropical zodiac telling tropicalists about their own zodiac's astrological Age?
Well, I saw no analytical answer to the question because, technically, siderealism didn't appear to have a "First Sign" like Aries is for tropicalism. So, I decided to trust the intuitive abilities of so many tropical astrologers, who were convinced that an Aquarian Age was next up. Logically, if both zodiacs have an upcoming Age of Aquarius in the same time-frame, that would explain why the sidereal Age of that particular Sign would resonate so powerfully for tropicalists. So, I deliberately chose sidereal Sagittarius as the tropical Age Window, for the sole reason that it would provide a tropical Aquarian Age. And, I liked the corresponding correlative results regarding Osirian Ancient Egypt, which became a manifestation of the tropical Age of Scorpio, the Greco-Roman culture, with Zeus/Jupiter becoming king of the gods during the tropical Age of Sagittarius, and our own historical culture, so contentious, ambitious, and materialistic, which fit tropical Capricorn far better than tropical Pisces, in my own Piscean opinion.
Since this was my working model for several years, I'll stop now and take a break, before describing what came next that convinced me that my trust in the intuition of tropical astrologers was justified.
First, I studied the well-known sidereal Ages relative to the Western historical timeline. I preferred to stay within the limits of recorded history, so, I began with the middle portion of the sidereal Age of Taurus, when written language and the inventions and monument-building that accompanied it began in the Tigris-Euphrates valley, c.3500 B.C.E., with the rise of the 1st Dynasty of Ancient Egypt at about 3100 B.C.E.
Like so many others, I was using the Year 2000 as the start-date for the sidereal Age of Aquarius (this was in the early 1980s), and 2150 year Ages, giving an Age of sidereal Taurus beginning around 4300 B.C.E. No internet, so I spent a lot of library hours reading about ancient history, and making correlations. I theorized that the development of cultures should correlate to the Ages, and found quite a few good correlations. But, I also noticed that cultures which developed in one Age, didn't fall apart when that Age ended, they often remained as background to new cultures that developed in the next Age. This is the "overlapping of Ages" phenomenon, which many of those studying the Ages have also noticed.
Then, a wake-up call from a radio interview with the first Western siderealists I'd become aware of, and one of them said, (paraphrasing), "there aren't any tropical Ages, and all you tropical astrologers have no business co-opting our Age of Aquarius".
I thought about it and found myself agreeing with him. The astronomical point that tells us about the ending of the Piscean Age and the beginning of the Aquarian Age, is available as a transiting point ONLY in the sidereal zodiac, which is affixed to the constellations. It can't transit the tropical zodiac because it's already in use, locating the First Point of tropical Aries.
I decided to see if there even WAS a way to find a transiting Age-indicator for the tropical zodiac. I first reasoned that, if a tropical Sign-boundary is pointing at the Age-degree in the sidereal zodiac, maybe a sidereal Sign-boundary could do that tropically. So, I considered the 2 types of zodiacal wheels together, superimposed upon on another. Holding the sidereal wheel stationary, the tropical wheel rotates around it in retrograde fashion, and there's a convergence of spokes (Sign-boundaries) when each new sidereal Age begins. The one tropical spoke that is supposed to matter, meaning the one that points out the sidereal Age, is the first boundary of tropical Aries, known in modern astronomy as the Vernal Equinoctial Point, used as the first point in astronomy's Right Ascension measuring system.
But, as I saw it, it wasn't just a convergence of spokes of the two zodiacal wheels. It was also a convergence of measured, astrologically created, 30 degree intervals. Much is made of the convergence of the both the spokes and the Signs of the same name at the beginning of the Age of sidereal Pisces. But, all the emphasis has been placed on one spoke of the tropical wheel, regarding the Ages. So, I expanded it to what I called the "Age Interval" (now, the "Age Window") which in this case included BOTH boundaries of tropical Aries, first AND last. So, now I had a measured, astrological reason for the overlap of Ages--a foreground Age (which I refer to as "the Age of..."); and, a concurrent background Age. For example, the Sidereal Age of Aries had a Taurian background Age, etc. And, that helped account for the overlap of cultures as well.
All right, so as I now label it, tropical Aries became the "Age Window" for the sidereal zodiac. And then, the BIG question I asked myself--in a quid pro quo manner, with the tropical wheel held stationary, and the sidereal wheel rotating through it with Direct-motion, WHICH SIDEREAL-SIGN should be the Age Window that transits the tropical zodiac telling tropicalists about their own zodiac's astrological Age?
Well, I saw no analytical answer to the question because, technically, siderealism didn't appear to have a "First Sign" like Aries is for tropicalism. So, I decided to trust the intuitive abilities of so many tropical astrologers, who were convinced that an Aquarian Age was next up. Logically, if both zodiacs have an upcoming Age of Aquarius in the same time-frame, that would explain why the sidereal Age of that particular Sign would resonate so powerfully for tropicalists. So, I deliberately chose sidereal Sagittarius as the tropical Age Window, for the sole reason that it would provide a tropical Aquarian Age. And, I liked the corresponding correlative results regarding Osirian Ancient Egypt, which became a manifestation of the tropical Age of Scorpio, the Greco-Roman culture, with Zeus/Jupiter becoming king of the gods during the tropical Age of Sagittarius, and our own historical culture, so contentious, ambitious, and materialistic, which fit tropical Capricorn far better than tropical Pisces, in my own Piscean opinion.
Since this was my working model for several years, I'll stop now and take a break, before describing what came next that convinced me that my trust in the intuition of tropical astrologers was justified.
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