FBI is investigating astrologers so be careful

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Government agencies and others have been interested in what astrologers have to say....especially ever since Millennials found astrology a worthwhile study.

There was also discussion after some surprising election results that maybe AI was been influenced - possibly by astrologers? Questions were raised about AI being influenced by astrological interpretations....possibly?
 

Sagcap88

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They want to strip us of our First Amendment rights.

Zuckerberg is totally corrupted and drunk on power. He’s a dangerous man. He’s a cuck for the Left.

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Sagcap88

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We might as well say whatever we want; they’re going to eventually try to shut us all down anyways. Canada has already stripped their citizens of free speech.
 

Gemini888

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First, no video to watch (has he been silenced?). Second, isn't it hilarious how people claim astrology is bull**** while getting paranoid at what we have to say?

Something doesn't sit right with me here.
 

rahu

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Interested in learning more but don't see much data to support. The video is no longer available just fyi

luckily I did see the video last night. there are a couple of reasons it might have been taken down. the first was that the astrologer identified the 3 FBI agents ,by name ,who interviewed him.

the second reason is because the astrologer then when off on a "tirade" and said that if he was going down ,he would identify other astrologers who should be securitized by the fbi.
he listed about 4 astrologer who have a social media presences..several thousand subscribers each. I thought that was a bit strange of him to name other astrologers.

rahu
 

rahu

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Astrologers' Community is most likely under the radar. Wouldn't worry about it unless you start a blog out in video world.

I think you re being disingenuous . I know you read my threads.
I have repeatedly posted about how my political threads about trump, netanyahu and the new world order are systematically deleted/altered, forcing me to repost some. I have had threads that had 2 years of posts deleted by the trolls here.

and I know the trolls here can hack into your email accounts because they have mine. I no longer open AW up until I go to my other account because the trolls here will interfere with postings. now it has got so bad that,i don't even have to open AW up. when i review the updates in my in- box, if I start to open some updates I intend to post...my mail account gets blocked up and the alt sites gets block also. .

so for you to sat AW is under the radar is ridiculous ..AW has resident trolls that obviously have a fascistic government prejudice/bias.

rahu
 

conspiracy theorist

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And why wouldn't certain powers want to research and implement occult methods in their plans and strategies? Done right, they can trump any technology in terms of recon and power potential. There are publicly available methods that purport to take you from an untrained person into an individual that has access to vast amounts of information and power, through developed psychic and magical ability. Where technology has to account for place and time, occult methods don't have to. Even if you don't go so far as psyhicism and magic, astrology is a very powerful tool in the hands of persons who know what they are doing; as the people on this forum should be aware of by now.

See here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project

That was only one project and it was 28 years ago. It's declassified which means that it is fit for public disclosure (similar to project monarch). I highly doubt that they have stopped researching these fields and "ineffectual results" acts as a deterrent to investigate, since the government tried it on and thought it was hogwash. I actually think it is a great intelligence move to declassify controversial information with inconsequential results as it essentially poisons the well.

Intelligence agents monitoring astrology forums who are actively researching and practicing? I think you would be naive to think that such agencies have any scruples. What works is what works.
 

Sagcap88

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And why wouldn't certain powers want to research and implement occult methods in their plans and strategies? Done right, they can trump any technology in terms of recon and power potential. There are publicly available methods that purport to take you from an untrained person into an individual that has access to vast amounts of information and power, through developed psychic and magical ability. Where technology has to account for place and time, occult methods don't have to. Even if you don't go so far as psyhicism and magic, astrology is a very powerful tool in the hands of persons who know what they are doing; as the people on this forum should be aware of by now.

See here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project

That was only one project and it was 28 years ago. It's declassified which means that it is fit for public disclosure (similar to project monarch). I highly doubt that they have stopped researching these fields and "ineffectual results" acts as a deterrent to investigate, since the government tried it on and thought it was hogwash. I actually think it is a great intelligence move to declassify controversial information with inconsequential results as it essentially poisons the well.

Intelligence agents monitoring astrology forums who are actively researching and practicing? I think you would be naive to think that such agencies have any scruples. What works is what works.

Totally agree. Excellent point.
 

Ixaee

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Thanks for the heads-up!

Although: as long as you're doing things the right way and staying honest in all that you do, you should have nothing to worry about. Don't fret :love: (this goes for everyone concerned about this).
 

Gemini888

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Thanks for the heads-up!

Although: as long as you're doing things the right way and staying honest in all that you do, you should have nothing to worry about. Don't fret :love: (this goes for everyone concerned about this).
I don't fret. I haven't seen the video, and beside, do you think something with so much importance would just vanish in thin air and nobody talks about it?

On a brighter note, could it be that they don't want to shut us down, but are finding a suitable "secret agent" instead? :tongue:
 

Ixaee

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I don't fret. I haven't seen the video, and beside, do you think something with so much importance would just vanish in thin air and nobody talks about it?

On a brighter note, could it be that they don't want to shut us down, but are finding a suitable "secret agent" instead? :tongue:

:lol: No agency could completely shut down astrology (or astrologers) to begin with. It's like prostitution: people will find a way. Haha.
 

Gemini888

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Site note: searching the poster of that video gave me several results of people exposing the guy for being a fat liar and an astrology noob. The guy's channel is also empty.



So unless I get to see the video AND know the full story behind it, my guess is that this is just another internet loser screaming about being "bullied". The names listed are probably just the people that called him out.


Too bad. I was hoping to be the next FBI special agent :crying:
 

david starling

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I think you re being disingenuous . I know you read my threads.
I have repeatedly posted about how my political threads about trump, netanyahu and the new world order are systematically deleted/altered, forcing me to repost some. I have had threads that had 2 years of posts deleted by the trolls here.

and I know the trolls here can hack into your email accounts because they have mine. I no longer open AW up until I go to my other account because the trolls here will interfere with postings. now it has got so bad that,i don't even have to open AW up. when i review the updates in my in- box, if I start to open some updates I intend to post...my mail account gets blocked up and the alt sites gets block also. .

so for you to sat AW is under the radar is ridiculous ..AW has resident trolls that obviously have a fascistic government prejudice/bias.

rahu

Is it the F.B.I. that's doing it? You may be an exception, because you have family in the government who are out to get you, personally.
 
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rahu

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here is an interesting article that may offer a glimse as to why the FBI is sticking their nose into astrology.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/15/style/astrology-apps-venture-capital.html

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Venture Capital Is Putting Its Money Into Astrology


The investment in Big Zodiac seems … preordained.

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By Erin Griffith





As an Aquarius, David Birnbaum is naturally skeptical of astrology. But as an investor, he has zero doubts about the business potential of the $2.1 billion “mystical services market.” It’s an area that he has been trying, unsuccessfully, to invest in for nearly two decades.
Mr. Birnbaum researched lots of astrology start-ups in the Web 1.0 era but concluded then that they were not good investments. “They were pretty much just marketplaces sending traffic off to random astrologers,” he said. “They were definitely shady.”
This year he finally backed one: Sanctuary, an app that can be described as “Uber for astrological readings.” For $19.99 a month, you can receive a monthly one-on-one chat consultation with an astrologer. (The app also provides free daily horoscopes.)
Mr. Birnbaum’s decision to back a horoscope company through Five Four Ventures, the incubator he runs, “gets a lot of grins” from people in the finance world, he said. But they get it. Astrology is having a cultural moment, and for investors, that translates to dollar signs.


In recent years astrology traded its psychedelic new-wave stigma for modern Instagrammy witch vibes, and those vibes are very popular with millennial women. This means there’s money to be made. Start-ups — professional, non-shady ones with interesting business models — are bubbling up, eagerly raising funding from people like Mr. Birnbaum.
A few weeks after Sanctuary became available for download, Co-Star, an app that lets people download and compare their birth charts, raised just over $5 million in funding from the Silicon Valley venture capital firms Maveron and Aspect Ventures, as well as 14W, based in New York. Co-Star’s website promotes the fact that astrology allows “irrationality to invade our techno-rationalist ways of living.” The app has been downloaded more than three million times. Its Instagram account has more than 400,000 followers.
Banu Guler, the chief executive and co-founder of Co-Star, said not every investor she pitched was enthusiastic about her company and that some dismissed its practice area as pseudoscience. “I get that you’re not into astrology,” she said, “but if you had access to a 20-something or teenager who is a girl, that’s who you need to talk to.”
A third app called Pattern is spreading among finance and Hollywood types; it is founded by Lisa Donovan, the co-founder of Maker Studios, which sold to Disney for $675 million. Ms. Donovan said she hasn’t raised a formal round of outside funding yet.
Ms. Guler, a Scorpio with Cancer rising and moon in Leo, believes Co-Star can be “really big.” Bigger than the dozens of horoscope blogs or online shops selling crystals and tarot cards. Maybe even bigger than meditation apps, one of which was recently valued at $1 billion by investors.


Meditation, Ms. Guler said, is an antisocial way of interacting with the world. She views astrology as a form of collective wellness, with Co-Star helping people relate to each other based on star signs. Another big difference between astrology and meditation’s practitioners: Astrologers are not allergic to making money.
Co-Star is free, but users can pay $2.99 to compare their chart to that of a friend who isn’t a member. This is where the relating comes in. They can answer questions like, “Why did we get into that insane fight and why did you shut down?” Ms. Guler said. “Is it because you’re a Capricorn Mars? Maybe. So let’s talk about it.”
Anarghya Vardhana, a partner at Maveron and a Libra, said Co-Star has the potential to be as big as Spotify, the music streaming app worth $24 billion, or Tinder, the ubiquitous dating app owned by Match Group.
“It probably has this aura of being unscientific or whatever,” Ms. Vardhana said. But Ms. Guler “did a really good job of understanding all of that and rooting it in as much science as possible.” Co-Star promotes its use of artificial intelligence and data from NASA to track movements of the stars.

Ms. Guler emailed a university psychology program asking if they’d take M.R.I. scans of people while using the app to learn about how people are reacting to it. She got no response. “Having money will help with that,” she said.
“Changing how we operate as humans in the world”

The casual observer might attribute astrology’s surging popularity to the stereotype of the narcissistic millennial. Of course the selfie-loving nanoinfluencer generation is eager to hear that they’re unique and special, no matter how woo-woo it seems. Horoscopes are a more personalized version of BuzzFeed-style identity content that’s designed to be relatable and shareable: “17 Things That Only People Named Jennifer Will Understand” or “28 Signs You Were Raised By Persian Parents In America.”


“What’s better than something that is basically a story about you?” Mr. Birnbaum said.
But that explanation ignores what many in the astro-verse consider the major turning point for Big Zodiac: The election of Donald Trump. It changed everything, according to Aliza Kelly, the astrologer-in-residence at Sanctuary. (She writes its horoscopes and conducts some of its readings.) Watching The New York Times’s forecast needle tip from Hillary Clinton to Mr. Trump raised people’s doubts about certain scientifically proven systems, Ms. Kelly said. “People became so much more receptive to the idea of there being different ways of seeing the world,” she said. They turned to astrology “in order to create some sense of structure and hope and stability in their lives.”
President Trump’s election inspired Ms. Guler to leave her work in fashion media and create Co-Star. “I was like, ‘We gotta figure out something more meaningful than what we are doing,” she said. The role social media played in the election — and how “it is changing how we operate as humans in the world” was a part of her concern, Ms. Guler said.
Investors see other trends feeding into astrology’s resurgence, Ms. Vardhana said. People are seeking smaller, specialized communities online, while participation in organized religion is declining. Millennials (and the rest of us) are lonely and want community, no matter how many followers we have on social media. Why wouldn’t we turn to the stars and moons and planets and houses of the horoscope?
“This is a phenomenon and maybe astrology and the technology of Co-Star is well equipped to address it,” Ms. Vardhana said. The challenge, she said, will be converting more mainstream skeptics without “alienating the astro-nerds.”
Big Pisces Energy

A few minutes into my reading on Sanctuary’s app, Ms. Kelly, my on-demand astrologer, asked me if her assessment of my birth chart rang true. According to her interpretation, last year was a very important year for me to redefine my values. As a Libra rising, my relationships are very important to me, she noted. And in the next few weeks, I should put myself out in the world to make connections :).
“Sure!” I typed into the app. It was just vague enough that if I did a little mental backbend, I could find examples to support her conclusions. I felt hesitant to share anything too personal about myself with a stranger until I remembered that by entering the date, city and precise time of day I was born, I had already bared my soul, astrologically speaking.


Sanctuary’s in-app readings are bite-size, designed to answer a specific question or dilemma. Sometimes, Ms. Kelly said in an interview, you just want to know why someone is being a jerk, “or how you can best navigate that dynamic. You don’t need to talk about ancestral trauma.”
Ross Clark, Sanctuary’s chief executive, co-founder and a Leo, estimates that there are 100,000 self-employed astrologers in the country. Sanctuary is starting with around 30, who Ms. Kelly and the Sanctuary team has helped vet and train on the company’s reading system. He emphasized the app’s live one-on-one connections. “We’re not trying to be some sort of spiritual Alexa, where we’re using AI to replace someone,” he said. “If you think about the practice, it’s really emotional.”
The apps create a shortcut to intimacy. Armed with purported knowledge of your peers’ personalities, conversations can skip over the polite get-to-know-you small talk and dive right into the ancestral trauma. In that way it doesn’t even matter that the science is actually fake. It creates a self-fulfilling prophecy where perceived intimacy leads to real intimacy. Later, when I interviewed Ms. Kelly, she mentioned that this was a good story for me, a Pisces, to be doing.
Why? Because, she said, Pisces are spiritual healers and emotional philosophers. “The quest for spiritual awakening and enlightenment is what Pisces energy is all about,” she said. “It’s in your blood.”
It felt like a convenient conclusion, given her company’s interest in getting me to write a story. Then again, who was I to argue with the stars? With my blood? It felt absurd, but also just satisfying and amusing enough that I did not reject the suggestion. Instead, I said, “Sure!”
 
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