Marriage partner in the natal chart?

Claire19

Well-known member
I very much support ideas like this, and frequently these observations are the result of great experience. I do however have to say that that question would lead someone astray with me...I'd say a high-powered career, yet Saturn is in the last 2 degrees of my 5th house, neither in the 5th or 6th could I see that.

To add a little to the thread topic, I'd say that charts are like a bag of mixed sweets, you don't know which one your hand is going to take out - some charts have a lot more, seemingly obvious information about marriage partners, and some just don't. The same can be said for finances etc. Such as the 7th ruler in the 6th or 9th - meeting the partner at work or they are an employee or your responsibility (6th, subserviance, colleagues) or 9th; abroad, foreign, higher educational institutions, religious or legal locations etc.

Combine that information with Venus' location by house and aspects to add up the clues.
I also have Saturn on the 5th 6th cusp and it works well in both areas. It conjuncts Mercury in the 6th Leo and I have met lovers in situations of work, shopping and in eating places which also is the province of the 6th. I have Virgo on the 7th ruled by Mercury as well and this suggest more of a business partnership than marriage and I have never married nor really wanted to. transits are very enlightening and over the years I have recognised the validity of a cusp planet.

As for marriage partners, planets in the 7th are easier to recognise but we do have the ruler of the 7th always and its aspects even when empty.
 
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I very much support ideas like this, and frequently these observations are the result of great experience. I do however have to say that that question would lead someone astray with me...I'd say a high-powered career, yet Saturn is in the last 2 degrees of my 5th house, neither in the 5th or 6th could I see that. [nothing like sitting on the fence then? if it's within 5' orb of 6th house cusp it's considered more effective in 6th, which suggests a lack of confidence with 6th house matters, like type of work you do, co-workers etc. So it is linked to 10th ]

To start with it's best to look at the individual needs of each persons chart and how they relate and what they are looking for.

If you post the synastry chart and realise it doesn’t show the degrees (which we need to look at) you can find the degrees and other information in a separate PDF on the synastry page of astro.com. Look for the link "View the additional tables (PDF)" and click on it to see the additional information. Reading a synastry chart is mainly about reading the aspects between the planets in the two charts. So once you find the PDF, scroll down to the bottom of the page and look in the synastry grid that is there. Unfortunately, you can only see/read these and not save/upload. That’s why I like to see both natal’s and composite. This grid (in my opinion) has too many minor aspects and the orbs are quite wide. I like to use + - max 3’

posting a synastry bi wheel from astro.com remember to reduce the *orbs* to 40% and maximum orb should be 3’

When looking at a woman’s chart the type of man she would look for is her sun sign and mars traits, plus 7th house planets and house cusp ruler and where that ruler was deposited.
When looking at a mans chart for the type of woman he would look for is his venus and moon sign and then 7th house planets and house cusp ruler and where that ruler was deposited.

Although synastry is a valuable tool with astrology it cannot 'make things happen' even if you have the best synastry in the world unfortunately.

In synastry I use tight orbs and view aspects between one person's outer planets to the other person's inner planets as being "karmic connections"......usually with the outer planet person doing the teaching and the inner planet person doing the learning.

If you want to research more into synastry try here
http://cafeastrology.com/astrology_of_relationships.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/interchartaspects.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry_house_overlays.html
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/synastry.html
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/synastry-houses.html
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/synastryaspects.html
http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/astrology-marriage.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17513
http://www.astrotheme.com/synastry_advice.php
http://www.astrology-x-files.com/synastry/ascendant.html
http://astrologyfiles.com/free-horoscope-matching/
http://www.skyviewzone.com/lovematch/sunsynastryhouse.htm

Relationship sticky
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28945
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=254409&postcount=9

Unfortunately, there is no set formula or signature for marriage or childbirth, although others may disagree, apparently horary and vedic seem confident in this area. There are indicators and potential as there would be with natal, solar return chart but guarantees -- (post 2 & 3 below)
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=207744#post207744

Your chart is a blueprint of your personality, facets and penchants and the whole chart is 'potential' for development. There is nothing guaranteed or fatalistic in charts, I do believe we still do have free will. I also believe we chose our parents and childhood circumstances best suited to learning those Lessons in the best way we can.

I think it's worth bearing in mind that the natal chart, like solar returns is all about 'potential' but as we all know we don't always fulfil that potential do we.

It's like someone saying you can predict death, but with modern medicine and sciences the way they are and the potential to 'die' three times in a life, doesn't mean to say you will does it

I think lots of people have unrealistic expectations about what astrology can and can't do. astrology is an 'art, science and craft' and not clairvoyance either. If there were a formula or signature, don't you think we would ALL be using it?

Predicting marriage and/or having children can sometimes be done, in general terms but it is not easy, time consuming and intricate. There are lots of things to take into consideration like, secondary progressions, what inter-aspects one chart makes to another, Solar arcs, Solar returns, Transits etc
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3192
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3179
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14255

Symbolic Directions in Modern Astrology – book by

By Charles E. Carter
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=uDv0Xj9YjngC&printsec=frontcover&dq=astrology+Charles+Carter&hl=en&ei=w5HeS7G6DYb2-Aa71Oj_Bg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CD8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false
 

byjove

Account Closed
I also have Saturn on the 5th 6th cusp and it works well in both areas. It conjuncts Mercury in the 6th Leo and I have met lovers in situations of work, shopping and in eating places which also is the province of the 6th. I have Virgo on the 7th ruled by Mercury as well and this suggest more of a business partnership than marriage and I have never married nor really wanted to. transits are very enlightening and over the years I have recognised the validity of a cusp planet.

As for marriage partners, planets in the 7th are easier to recognise but we do have the ruler of the 7th always and its aspects even when empty.

You know I read a funny note on Saturn in the 5th before - that people can call us a 'bad date'. It pointed out that discussing the most serious topics of the day might seem perfectly normal to us but not to everyone else, unless we find someone else with this placement lol. Does any of this ring a bell? I wouldn't say I'm a sour-puss on dates, not at all, but I do test can we have good, deep, significant or intellectual conversations, if not, we could be friends but nothing more. Disney people for me make friends not marriage partners :whistling: And Saturn rules my 7th too.

What are your 7th ruler Mercury's aspects? Where is he placed? Do you need a good conversational aspect to dating too?
 

Claire19

Well-known member
Marriage does not belong to the 9th house. I dont know where that all started. The 7th is our partners, no matter how many...ruled by Venus.
Dual signs on the cusp can mean multiple partners as well as Mercury and the planets residing in the 7th will show the partner we attract as well as the 7th ruler.

The 9th house is ethics, high laws and higher learning, foreign contacts,
our sense of faith and philosophy. OUr grandchildren, our siblings partner..... so our inlaws....
 

Claire19

Well-known member
You know I read a funny note on Saturn in the 5th before - that people can call us a 'bad date'. It pointed out that discussing the most serious topics of the day might seem perfectly normal to us but not to everyone else, unless we find someone else with this placement lol. Does any of this ring a bell? I wouldn't say I'm a sour-puss on dates, not at all, but I do test can we have good, deep, significant or intellectual conversations, if not, we could be friends but nothing more. Disney people for me make friends not marriage partners :whistling: And Saturn rules my 7th too.

What are your 7th ruler Mercury's aspects? Where is he placed? Do you need a good conversational aspect to dating too?
Saturn in Leo is not a really social influence and tend to be heavy and serious. It can mean that we take love seriously and want a steady established responsible lover so that often means older....It is loyal and I think karmic in its nature and having children is well planned out and often happens on that Saturn return and mostly not wanting very many. I for instance didnt want children and dont have them. I have Mercury sextile Mars and Venus in Libra 8th and I can attract lovers and seen as sexy when I want to be. I have over the years learned to be a bit more light hearted and gay but still dont like big parties or gatherings. I have had my share of Geminis and younger men with the conjunction to Mercury. I was not or never will be a player, into one night stands or casual sex just for the sake of it.
 
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Alitta the Archer

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I have Sun, Venus, Mercury ( in 3rd House) and Mars ( 4th House) all in Sagittarius and they tightly conjunct.
Sagittarius/Jupiter rules my 4th House.

I Have Pisces on the cusp of the 7th House
Neptune, the ruler of my 7H, is placed in the 4th House.
Jupiter is traditionally considered the ruler of my 7H as well.

Jupiter in Scorpio in the Second House.
It semi-sextile Mars and Venus.

Capricorn is on the cusp of the 5th House.
Saturn, the ruler of my 5H, is placed in the 6th House in Aquarius.

Descendant and Vertex are both in Pisces.
Juno is Second House in Libra and so in my Moon.

So according to these placements, I could possibly end up with a partner who has major Jupiterian/Neptunian characteristics ( could be older in age), devoted to family life, could a worker in real estate market or a businessman of some sort.
OR....... He could be an artist of some kind who works from home and has both the traits of Sagittarius and Pisces.

Is there a possibility I could build a house/family abroad ? I heard when you have Jupiter ruling the 4th it's possible.

What do you think guys ? Did I get it right ?
I'm trying to learn to read and interpret my natal placements on my own but I'd appreciate it if you correct me when I'm wrong.
 

ChicagoKid

New member
How does he come up with this information?

Uranus is at the 12th degree of Libra bearing all the symbolic of Pisces

Saturn placed at the worst 18th degree speaks about evil and controlled trait of his (Saturn – control, self-control)


in addition, Saturn and Sun are at the 18th degree with all symbolic of Virgo –from work, on work.

Mercury at the unfavorable 20th degree – degree with the symbolic of Scorpio

Saturn also ... is placed in Taurus (property) at the worst 18th degree.

Nikola invented predictive degree astrology. Thats what he's referring to.
 
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