How Aquarians relate to other zodiac signs

CapAquaPis said:

Two halves of Scorpio could be separate signs in 13th sign astrology: Anyone born from Oct 22/23-Nov 8/9 or in sidereal, Nov 16-30 are basic Scorpios vs. those born from Nov 9/10-Nov 22/23 or in sidereal, Dec 1-16 are Ophiuchus - the serpent-bearer we heard so much about in this forum. Scorpios are said to avoid Aquarians and vice versa, but what about my ability to relate better with Ophiuchus people? The shift from Scorpio and Ophiuchus in the midst of the so-called 12th month of the astrological year represents the end and beginning of a cycle, a solar year, in this scenario, two sun signs are 15 not 30 days long.

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With Libra, another air sign, they would naturally be good buddies, then all of a sudden, they turn against us and become the opposite into mortal enemies.

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JUPITERASC said:

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PLANETS rule SIGNS

PLANETS relate or do not relate to other planets
dependent on individual natal chart
SIGNS ARE NEUTRAL

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ynnest said:

Since planets rules signs, they also rule the angles which from my understanding are the most personal and core points in the sense of their rulers, more so than the sun and moon.Therefore if someone has Leo ascendant for example then the sun is the ruler of the chart which means that it rules over the ascendant which means that whatever sign and aspects the sun lies in/forms, is what constitutes the most core part of a person.

There are therefore from my perspective no Leo ascendant descriptions, only the sun with its inherent characteristics expressing itself in different signs with different aspects.

Y

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david starling said:

Ascendant in Leo:
Personal identification with a chosen Sense of Purpose. [12/12]

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Omnisphericus said:

The type of Delineation I'm giving here is a mix of medieval techniques with those of the Hellenistic authors.

Here are some tips for delineating the chart in this manner.

1. The good or bad signified by a house emanates from the ruler of the house.
This is the basic rule. The ruler of the house is giver of the material of the house.

Zoller gives the example of his own chart where he has Combusted Mercury in 11th, ruler of 4th. He comments that this kind of placement brings adversity to ones home and dwellings.

2. Benefit in one area of life can be produced by adversity, or even conflict, in another.

Again Zoller gives example from his own chart.
Jupiter in 9th in Scorpio disposited from Mars in 11th: Wisdom coming from conflicts.

3. The delineation tells you the what. The
predictive techniques tell you the when.

4. The Elemental Quality

of the Sign of the Ascendant

is the type of Primary Motivation

of the native.

Fire goes for freedom of action and power.
Air goes for freedom of expression and movement.
The Water signs need emotional security
Earth signs need physical security.

The person with masculine Ascendant (or majority of planets in masculine signs) speaks in active terms: "I did this to that person".
The person with feminine sign on Ascendant or majority planets in feminine signs, speaks in passive terms: "This happened to me".

The Feminine signs seek advice because they need second hand in their decisions, in fact they want someone else to make the decision for them.
Masculine signs seek advice because they have many options so they are not sure which option is better.

Cardinal signs are most active. Cardinal water and earth (Cancer and Capricorn) are working great amount of actions but in circumstances and environment structured already by someone else.
Libra and Aries (Cardinal masculine) are working great in any kind of circumstances.

Fixed signs are centripetal, they need center. They are very successful in Acquisations.
Taurus hoards money.
Leo hoards glory and honor.
Scorpio hoards the hidden things, hidden motivations of other people, seek energy and vitality.
Aquarius hoards Knowledge.

Mutable signs vacillate between the two: cardinal and fixed.

5. Examine the planets which most closely aspects the Ascendant. These planets add to the whole Primary Motivation thing.

Planets aspecting the Ascendant represent powers the native can use in the world.

The aspecting planet's local determination will be added to the Primary
Motivation.
(Venus in 5th will add love for pleasure and entertainment to the native's Primary Motivation).

The aspect between the aspecting planet and the Ascendant tells you how the being of the planet and its local determination are linked.

6. The Ruler of the Ascendant by its house position tells you where (what area of life) the native will seek to realize his/her Primary Motivation.

Look also at all 5 dignity rulers in the place of the ASC. The Almuten and Exalted ruler are lamost as significant as the domicile ruler (sometimes even more).

The Ruler of the Ascendant (as well as the other rulers) by its nature and zodiacal state shows the methods the native will use and the success or failure of the drive.

This is great quote by Zoller:


Lets assume that a person has Cancer on the Ascendant,
The primary motivation of this person is the Need for Emotional Security.
The ruler/s of the Ascendant and their zodiacal and local state will determine How would this be achieved.

Lets assume Moon on IC in Libra Peregrine.
Jupiter in 6th (but 7th sign!) in Capricorn.
Venus in Sag in 6th - Peregrine.
Mars in Scorpio in 4th (but 5th sign!)
Saturn (term ruler) is in 5th Scorpio Peregrine.

We can see that Moon is strong by accident (being on angle), so we can judge first from there.
The need for Emotional Security this person would seek in the home, in the place of the father. The father would be the means through which this person would try to achieve the Emotional Security.
Jupiter - the exalted ruler is weak by being cadent, Venus too. They can't produce much in giving the emotional security this person seeks.
Jupiter by universal means suggest that the native would seek wisdom, religion (and the person actually did!) but by being cadent and in fall, it can't productively give what it promise.
Mars is in 4/5th and is strong by zodiacal state, but is out of sect malefic.
It would try to win competitions, but also with Saturn in 5th will give great deal of creativity. Mars rules the 10th - creativity and looking for career, would also give some amount of emotional security for this person. But by being square with Sun in 7th it means that it will have opposition from authorities and other people in general.

The primary motivation is great deal of what we unconsciously and often consciously seek for. Once that motivation is broken or someone interrupt it, we seek to fix that in the every possible way we can do that.

I will continue with the tips in my next post.

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CapAquaPis said:

My Pisces is in the 9th house ruled by Sagittarius and my natal Mercury lies in it, does this have to do with my ability to befriend Pisces people better than most Aquarians?

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ynnest said:

Since planets rules signs, they also rule the angles
which from my understanding
are the most personal and core points in the sense of their rulers,

more so than the sun and moon.
Therefore if someone has Leo ascendant for example
then the sun is the ruler of the chart
which means that it rules over the ascendant
which means that whatever sign and aspects the sun lies in/forms, is
what constitutes the most core part of a person.


There are therefore from my perspective no Leo ascendant descriptions, only the sun
with its inherent characteristics expressing itself in different signs
with different aspects.
Y

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the following helpful table illustrates planetary sign rulers

petosiris said:

Jupiter, Mars and Venus rule Pisces. Each sign has two or three rulers.

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CapAquaPis said:

Going by what I learned and already knew in astrology, my natal chart shows I either belong to a circle of women friends, had women direct me in life, protect women or have women protect me (it can be a past life clue). A triplicity in Aries midheaven of Venus, Eris and Ceres; a stellium in Virgo made up of Mars, Jupiter, Saturn and Lilith; a double sun-moon conjunction in my Aquarius 8th; and Cancer ascendant, ruled by the Moon interfering with my sun sign identity.

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david starling said:

From my viewpoint, that's one amazing stellium in Virgo!
Where's ?

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jac said:

I just happened upon this thread Lykanized, and it's regrettable you had such ugly experiences with Aquarians that you are soured on an entire sun-sign.

Though Waybread made several concessions to reach a happy medium with you, you preserve quite a bias.

I am an Aquarian artist whose primary motivation in several mediums is to illustrate DEPTH, so if you can objectify- perhaps you can imagine how your allegations "To me, Aquarians just come off as wishy washy, nonsensical, and not knowing what they want" "Water runs much deeper than that. Like I notice with many Aquarian artists they may be original, but their work lacks depth or soul or unless there's water, or spark or spirit unless there's fire. But generally, it's just lacking in depth" read, even to a casual observer. It sounds like you've been deeply hurt, and thus, react with contempt.

Having made my living in the arts, one of the constants in critiques of my work, is DEPTH.

You'd probably be shocked to learn I've been blissfully bonded with a Scorpio for THIRTY YEARS. I know of several other long-term Aq-Sc couples.

In short, I consider sun-sign astrology to be light entertainment, but no real measure of the many facets that comprise even a simple human being. Waybread is dead-on in her appraisal.

I sincerely hope whatever damage you've sustained, adequately heals enough that you might one day, experience the 12th of humanity you've dropped your own little personal moratorium on. Meanwhile, I imagine we'll just have to soldier on without you.

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Lykanized said:

If what I said offended anyone else, could you tell me? I’m honestly genuinely curious

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david starling said:

Reminds me a saying J.A. posted way back when. Something close to, "If I haven't offended you yet, please be patient. I'll get around to you as soon as I can. "

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Lykanized said:

I didn’t want to offend anyone 😕
I figured I was just being honest, not offensive, but meh, it is what it is 😂

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SunConjunctUranus said:

Lykan, you offended me.

Is an Aquarius can turn you on?

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