MSO
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Do you think you're a typical Cancer Sun?
Modern Astrology Vs Traditional Astrology Placements
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Whole signs system is cra-p. I acknowledge more the equal house system.
I have the same problem , my Sun,Mars and Venus change in another house when I change the house system from Placidus to equal or Koch!
I hate that! I don't like changes on something that personal a.k.a. the personal planets.
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saturnsayshi
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I'll bet you would seem more Cancery in person. Online, Venus and Moon in Leo come out to play.
MSO
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Love2Know
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I'll bet you would seem more Cancery in person. Online, Venus and Moon in Leo come out to play.
Yeah in person people swear I am leo but I do randomly bake stuff for people and throw dinner parties. But I DO LIKE to say cancer sun
That I am a sweet delightful innocent crab Ok MSO let us just agree that all cancers worship Larry David from curb your enthusiasm
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saturnsayshi
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LOL.
And for some reason I naively though that whole house system was the same as equal house. Just pulled it up on astro so I can stop being an uninformed idiot and DO NOT LIKE. Everything moved!
Looks like I need to take waybread's suggestion of reading up on the different house systems.
MSO
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Well, I was going to say it earlier but I didn't want to sound like a whole sign nazi. But eh, whatever.
Take on the whole sign chart. Instead of looking for the planets to fit the houses, look for the personality traits to fit the planets.
You're outgoing. Nice, but does that mean your Sun is in the 11th? Probably not. There are other placements and aspects that do the exact same thing.
Me and L2K have an eerily similar chart. We have a lot of similarities in our personality. Ordinarily I'd assign my hostility to Mars being in Aries, yet hers is similar to mine. It's just the Sun/Mars opposite aspect.
See? 2 different ways of looking at the same problem. Whole signs for life!
Take on the whole sign chart. Instead of looking for the planets to fit the houses, look for the personality traits to fit the planets.
You're outgoing. Nice, but does that mean your Sun is in the 11th? Probably not. There are other placements and aspects that do the exact same thing.
Me and L2K have an eerily similar chart. We have a lot of similarities in our personality. Ordinarily I'd assign my hostility to Mars being in Aries, yet hers is similar to mine. It's just the Sun/Mars opposite aspect.
See? 2 different ways of looking at the same problem. Whole signs for life!
saturnsayshi
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OMG don't encourage MSO
Sorry, L2K. I forget that everyone isn't as callous as I am.
waybread
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Thanks, Love2Know!
If you can spring for a couple of books, I recommend: Helena Avelar & Luis Ribeiro, On the Heavenly Spheres: A Treatise on Traditional Astrology. It is essentially an introductory-level textbook on traditional astrology, with workbook examples. The authors are Portuguese, but I haven't heard that their system differs from Anglophone traditional astrology. They use a quadrant (unequal) house system.
Benjamin Dykes, Traditional Astrology for Today: An Introduction is a small book that works well as a companion volume. Dykes explains the "why" behind traditional astrology, more than the details of application.
Both these books are available through amazon.com and (I believe) the on-line bookshop at the American Federation of Astrologers' website.
Both of these books are really sensible. They explain traditional astrology without getting into the more negative assessments that you can find in some traditional sources in the original.
Also, as you learn more traditional astrology, you will find that there are mitigating chart factors for many negative house placements, depending upon what you've got in your chart.
If you can spring for a couple of books, I recommend: Helena Avelar & Luis Ribeiro, On the Heavenly Spheres: A Treatise on Traditional Astrology. It is essentially an introductory-level textbook on traditional astrology, with workbook examples. The authors are Portuguese, but I haven't heard that their system differs from Anglophone traditional astrology. They use a quadrant (unequal) house system.
Benjamin Dykes, Traditional Astrology for Today: An Introduction is a small book that works well as a companion volume. Dykes explains the "why" behind traditional astrology, more than the details of application.
Both these books are available through amazon.com and (I believe) the on-line bookshop at the American Federation of Astrologers' website.
Both of these books are really sensible. They explain traditional astrology without getting into the more negative assessments that you can find in some traditional sources in the original.
Also, as you learn more traditional astrology, you will find that there are mitigating chart factors for many negative house placements, depending upon what you've got in your chart.
MSO
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Yep, I gave her an example of this last night. While reading about the Sun in 12th, the site said she'd be more of an introvert, unless her ascendant was Aries or Leo.
Love2Know
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Again, amazing thank you I will pass by the book store this week I have gift cards from Christmas for it oxoxoxoxo
houses are one of the quagmires of astrology... astrologers typically don't agree on them... according to my reading signs and houses were terms that were interchangeable a long time ago.. this still doesn't address the many ins and outs to the numerous house systems..
an alternative way to look at your chart is to consider learning as much as you can about astrology to let you make a better informed decision on just which house your planets land in..
either way love2know i see planets on angles having the most amount of say... in your chart moon/venus on the ascendant dominates and i say this from the limited amount of time i have been on this site watching the activity of members like yourself.. indian astrology, or vedic places more emphasis on the ascendant in comparison to pop astrology here in the west with emphasis on the sun... also, i think the moon is much more informative in a womens chart then the sun position..
moon/venus on your ascendant with venus connected to the midheaven suggests finding some artistic outlets for your leo energy... moon strong in a chart, and it has an even more important role in a sun in cancer person - suggests you need to be on stage, or doing something artistic where you can be the center of attention with a certain degree of drama going on to keep you entertained.. mercury at your sun/moon midpoint in combo with a focal moon might imply writing as well.. mercury is stationary as well which makes its position in your chart quite powerful given the nature of stationary planets..
i wouldn't get caught up on the house sign conundrum that tends to plague those new to astrology, as well as those who have been doing it a long while.. instead you might learn more from understanding planetary relationships through knowing more about aspects.. sun/mars opp in your chart is quite pronounced and saturn feeds right into this too via 45/135 aspects.. your sun has a very nice trine from jupiter to help offset some of the challenges associated with how it is set in your chart.. hopefully this is of some value to you.. cheers james
an alternative way to look at your chart is to consider learning as much as you can about astrology to let you make a better informed decision on just which house your planets land in..
either way love2know i see planets on angles having the most amount of say... in your chart moon/venus on the ascendant dominates and i say this from the limited amount of time i have been on this site watching the activity of members like yourself.. indian astrology, or vedic places more emphasis on the ascendant in comparison to pop astrology here in the west with emphasis on the sun... also, i think the moon is much more informative in a womens chart then the sun position..
moon/venus on your ascendant with venus connected to the midheaven suggests finding some artistic outlets for your leo energy... moon strong in a chart, and it has an even more important role in a sun in cancer person - suggests you need to be on stage, or doing something artistic where you can be the center of attention with a certain degree of drama going on to keep you entertained.. mercury at your sun/moon midpoint in combo with a focal moon might imply writing as well.. mercury is stationary as well which makes its position in your chart quite powerful given the nature of stationary planets..
i wouldn't get caught up on the house sign conundrum that tends to plague those new to astrology, as well as those who have been doing it a long while.. instead you might learn more from understanding planetary relationships through knowing more about aspects.. sun/mars opp in your chart is quite pronounced and saturn feeds right into this too via 45/135 aspects.. your sun has a very nice trine from jupiter to help offset some of the challenges associated with how it is set in your chart.. hopefully this is of some value to you.. cheers james
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