archergirl
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I thought I would post this chart, as it's interesting and it falls into what Wintersprite was discussing in the Techniques section.
Let's call this question, "Will I have an affair with Claude?". The querent, a married friend of mine (I'll call her Betty), recently met someone at a restaurant who really floats her boat. He is from another country, and she knows very little about him other than that she would like to make a 'toy boy' out of him. He apparently is quite interested in her as well, she surmised, from his body language, etc. in the brief time they were in contact.
So. She is Jupiter and he is Mercury. Because this is a relationship question, I'll explore Frawley's technique of also assigning Venus to her (plus the Moon, since she's the querent) and the Sun for 'Claude', as the natural ruler of men in their prime.
The first thing I noticed is that the receptions are uneven, and very curious. Claude, as Mercury and the Sun, is in the sign of Jupiter's exaltation and in the Moon's domicile. So we can surmise that Claude is indeed very interested in Betty. Infatuated, in fact. Betty, on the other hand: Venus is in Leo, so we can say that Betty's 'animal side' is interested in Claude. The Moon is in Jupiter's sign: Betty's emotions are wrapped up in herself. Jupiter, her ruler, is retrograde and in Capricorn, ruled by Saturn. So actually, it seems Betty is more interested in herself than in Claude...this makes sense as Betty isn't interested in a hot and heavy love affair; she only wants a booty call with Claude.
The Moon applies by trine to Venus; and since Venus also rules, in this chart, the 5th house of sex and pleasure, I surmised that it is quite possible that Betty and Claude will soon be doing more than fine dining, especially with both the Moon and Venus in secret and illicit houses. Certainly it expresses Betty's intention, if nothing else.
BUT: This is what is interesting. Betty is married. I am unsure whether Claude is or not; she thought he wasn't, but you never know.
Mercury makes an aspect to Saturn, from the sign of Saturn's detriment. Saturn is in the sign of Mercury's domicile.
Jupiter, (Betty) is in Saturn's domicile. Who is Saturn?
It is very highly likely that Saturn is Betty's husband; or possibly, Claude's wife. Saturn is often assigned to the cuckolded spouse, the spoilsport of hanky-panky fun. Note Mercury's dislike of Saturn, while loving Jupiter/Moon so very much, and Jupiter, in such a weak state, is in Saturn's domicile. Saturn, and then Mars, will come in-between Betty and Claude, prohibiting the opposition from perfecting! I wonder if it isn't actually Claude's wife, since Saturn sits in the 9th house of 'foreign places': Claude is, of course, a foreigner, and Mercury goes to meet Saturn, although he doesn't like it much.
Although there is definitely interest on Claude's part, someone or someones will prevent the affair from happening, as Mars AND Saturn are in the way.
So in this chart, at least, the 'third party planet' is a prohibition, it seems, because Mars/Jupiter unite, and Mercury/Saturn unite, and Jupiter/Mercury just can't get it together!
It also seems that I am still a technological moron, because I can't get a readable image up! The details for those who want to look, are:
Sunday, 13th July 2008
18:26 pm
Cambridge, England
AG
Let's call this question, "Will I have an affair with Claude?". The querent, a married friend of mine (I'll call her Betty), recently met someone at a restaurant who really floats her boat. He is from another country, and she knows very little about him other than that she would like to make a 'toy boy' out of him. He apparently is quite interested in her as well, she surmised, from his body language, etc. in the brief time they were in contact.
So. She is Jupiter and he is Mercury. Because this is a relationship question, I'll explore Frawley's technique of also assigning Venus to her (plus the Moon, since she's the querent) and the Sun for 'Claude', as the natural ruler of men in their prime.
The first thing I noticed is that the receptions are uneven, and very curious. Claude, as Mercury and the Sun, is in the sign of Jupiter's exaltation and in the Moon's domicile. So we can surmise that Claude is indeed very interested in Betty. Infatuated, in fact. Betty, on the other hand: Venus is in Leo, so we can say that Betty's 'animal side' is interested in Claude. The Moon is in Jupiter's sign: Betty's emotions are wrapped up in herself. Jupiter, her ruler, is retrograde and in Capricorn, ruled by Saturn. So actually, it seems Betty is more interested in herself than in Claude...this makes sense as Betty isn't interested in a hot and heavy love affair; she only wants a booty call with Claude.
The Moon applies by trine to Venus; and since Venus also rules, in this chart, the 5th house of sex and pleasure, I surmised that it is quite possible that Betty and Claude will soon be doing more than fine dining, especially with both the Moon and Venus in secret and illicit houses. Certainly it expresses Betty's intention, if nothing else.
BUT: This is what is interesting. Betty is married. I am unsure whether Claude is or not; she thought he wasn't, but you never know.
Mercury makes an aspect to Saturn, from the sign of Saturn's detriment. Saturn is in the sign of Mercury's domicile.
Jupiter, (Betty) is in Saturn's domicile. Who is Saturn?
It is very highly likely that Saturn is Betty's husband; or possibly, Claude's wife. Saturn is often assigned to the cuckolded spouse, the spoilsport of hanky-panky fun. Note Mercury's dislike of Saturn, while loving Jupiter/Moon so very much, and Jupiter, in such a weak state, is in Saturn's domicile. Saturn, and then Mars, will come in-between Betty and Claude, prohibiting the opposition from perfecting! I wonder if it isn't actually Claude's wife, since Saturn sits in the 9th house of 'foreign places': Claude is, of course, a foreigner, and Mercury goes to meet Saturn, although he doesn't like it much.
Although there is definitely interest on Claude's part, someone or someones will prevent the affair from happening, as Mars AND Saturn are in the way.
So in this chart, at least, the 'third party planet' is a prohibition, it seems, because Mars/Jupiter unite, and Mercury/Saturn unite, and Jupiter/Mercury just can't get it together!
It also seems that I am still a technological moron, because I can't get a readable image up! The details for those who want to look, are:
Sunday, 13th July 2008
18:26 pm
Cambridge, England
AG
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