bluemascara said:jupiter on the midheaven or a sun aspect, even a hard one,to the midheaven give popularity and put you in front of the public. A strong eleventh house with positive aspects would make one popular with his peers i think.
astroman1 said:How about Jupiter in the 10th house and Moon in the 11th house.
Possibility of fame?
hiimnotcool said:lol. i have both of those. not famous yet
astroman1 said:Danm! Well... Im 19 so there still might be a chance...
hiimnotcool said:im 23. what signs are they in? my moon is conjunct a Royal Star too which is supposed to denote fame.
natasa812 said:Dear Bluemascara,
I have my MC in casimi meaning in the heart of the Sun since Sun and MC have only 0.05 distance. Jupiter is in conj. with Sun and with MC as also as Mercury...
Here is my natal:
http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=natalnatalchartnatasha.png
But I am not famous
I don`t know if I will ever be...?!
My 11th is ruled by Saturn and Saturn is in 3rd.
My 3rd is ruled by Venus and Venus is in 11th - so, those 2 houses and planets are ``padding`` each other and then again - I am not famous.
Another member wrote at some post that angular Moon brings fame, I also have my Moon ``sitting`` on my DC in conj. with it and in conj. with Regulus, but again, I am not famous...
I can say that I have good friends that love me, stable as personalities and that my friendships last (and I really mean last long). My best friend is Cancer and another best one is Virgo, and I never started a friendship that ended for any reason and / or quicly.
Maybe there is some other aspect to look for fame - the 5th house or something... Or the AC maybe?
My knowledge goes this far...
Best wishes...
hiimnotcool said:im 23. what signs are they in? my moon is conjunct a Royal Star too which is supposed to denote fame.
Please excuse my ignorance, but what does "angular" mean?RockFish said:Fame, that's an elusive one, for sure.
The problem is, there are different kinds of fame, and then there'll be a plethora of aspects and configurations that might mean fame, not only one or two.... A famous actor won't have the same aspects as a famous psycho.....
A loaded 10th doesn't necessarily mean fame. It means focus on how one is acknowledged by society. It might mean preeminence, a brilliant career, but not necessarily fame. If one is into administration or economy, with a loaded 10th house they might rise to top management in a company really quickly. I guess a loaded 10th might mean preeminence and prestige in a particular field, or focus on career more than intimacy, not necessarily fame.
If a sports person asks "will I be famous", then having a loaded 10th may not help them as much as having a powerful Mars, even better if in a Gauquelin sector...
If an actor asks "will I be famous", then a strong (exhalted and/or in the 1st or 9th) and/or angular Jupiter is more likely to help than Mars. Marcello Mastroianni, Antonio Banderas, Dustin Hoffman, Wynona Rider (AC), Halle Berry, James Dean (IC), Al Pacino, Nicole Kidman, Angelina Jolie (MH), Meryl Streep (DC), have Jupiter on angles. bluemascara, don't let a horary bring you down, you have Jupiter in Aries in MH just like Al Pacino!!
A perfomer might benefit from an angular Moon. Madonna, David Bowie, Marc Bolan, Prince, Stevie Wonder, Björk, Marilyn Monroe, George Harrison, Courtney Love, Jon Bon Jovi, Edith Piaf, Diana Ross, Louis Armstrong, Phil Collins, Billie Holiday (tho this one has ten degrees between Ascendant and Moon...)... to name a few.
Does that mean anyone who has angular Moon will be famous? No. As said before, ELUSIVE!!
Sun in the 12th is something I'm still willing to investigate. I've seen it a lot in charts of famous people, but still didn't reasearch it.
This is always a hot topic! I wish I was famous too, but nah! Haven't got a top Jupiter, haven't got a top Moon. I will be the regular Mary round the corner.
Reyka said:Please excuse my ignorance, but what does "angular" mean?
Thank you for explaining, Tim.wilsontc said:Reyka,
In this discussion "angular" refers to planets that are on the Ascendant, Descendant, IC, or Midheaven. For example, in your chart, you have an "angular" Pluto, since Pluto is on your Descendant.
On the angle,
Tim