Physical Appearance/Sex Appeal in a Natal Chart?

Sebastien Cheritte

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I already beaten by public.
That's nothing new and that's why I hate public in general.
I don't care about people anymore.
Ha ha...

Not to Quote Patrick Bateman/Christian Bale but

"...You have a negative attitude, that's what's stopping you, you need to get your act together..."
 
I know this post is old, but I'll comment for those searching around on the internet.

I have been considered attractive for the better part of my life. I say 'better' because, at 31 (post-baby), I am clinically obese and haggard looking from hypothyroidism and chasing around a toddler, respectively.

But, when I was a teenager, guys considered me 'hot' and I attracted a lot of male attention. Not trying to brag, you guys. It could have been other factors though, maybe I looked like a sucker who would be easy to game. Or, the fact that I grew up in a small town. I mean, I def have average looks. Additionally, I also think my attitude/personality warmed people towards me. In public, I am pretty jolly, but also self-deprecating, and am always trying to get a laugh. It's a different story as far as interpersonal relationships go.

Anywhoozles: I have a Taurus Ascendant with Venus in the first house of Gemini. My Venus is at the apex of a yod with Neptune and Pluto being the other two planets. I also have Venus trine my MC. These are the only aspects I can think of that might make me 'appealing.' My astrologer said that the Venus configuration makes me charming, at least initially, but because of the other planets aspecting it, I can come off as unsettling to people after a while, or something like that. For the most part, I try to charm people by being witty or knowledgeable. Also, I used to really care about the way I appeared and went to great lengths to look attractive.

I have been researching what makes someone attractive in reference to their natal chart because my daughter has a lot of the conventional aspects for magnetism, like, Pluto and Moon conjunct her ascendant in Capricorn. As well as Uranus conjunct Venus in Aries and Venus and Uranus square her ascendant. She also has Sun opposite MC with a couple of sextiles from the Moon, and upiter, and a trine from Neptune.

If anyone can give me their take on my daughter's aspects that would be cool. I know it's weird to ask these types of questions about one's child, but I need to satisfy my shallow and vapid sensibilities ;)
 

besitos

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EDIT: I thought this thread was about ascendant and appearance in general - but I will keep my post here in case it is interesting to someone.

i didnt find how you described yourself as bragging at all, and there was no need to accent it with an apology. i wonder if all the venus energy has helped you to achieve good and/or your north node goals?

I personally find Taurus in the chart attractive, but when we're talking about coupling activities you'd want something welcoming and nourishing to a sensual, earthly delight, at least I could see how that relates to being attractive to others. While attraction is most definitely a matter that extends beyond appearance, I mentioned Taurus as a sign in general and it's attractiveness. Of course, Libra might seem to be generally attractive in a non-appearance sense (although I dislike Libra in general, I have found people with libra in their chart attractive).

also you mentioned venus in aries - is this a marker of attractiveness or are you just stating the sign?

I have also found descriptions of the ascendant sign as accurate in most cases, although just barely in some cases (like myself). I think my sun and mars also show up in my appearance even though I am a female. And most of the time the astrological symbol does seem to match with the overall appearance/gait as well! it's strange. So, Taurus - large round, cow-like eyes, large and broad lines in the face and body. Aries - a roman nose-like profile with shorter area between eyebrow ridge and eyes, with head appearing prominent even if the person is tall; Cancer : softness but in a "cardinal" (active, not passive) way - bodies and stance can still be squared off but may have a blurred outline / softness of skin ; Virgo - small eyes, sinewy, slight hunch (not so sure on this one), smaller in general or appears that way (short and/or small boned), fine features, similar to Capricorn, which I have found is similar to Virgo but yet so different - Capricorn asc have small eyes and their eyes may be considered beady - like very dense and discerning. They remind me of Scoprio Ascendant's eyes - which have the same "blackness" but not as dense - they are simply more of a piercing, intense gaze rather than a calculating one. Pisces ascendant i've found is very soft and dreamy - I used to hate that description when I would see things like that around, because I thought it was just a BS guess, but I have found it to be accurate in perhaps unexpected ways -most consistently in the gaze imo, hazy gaze and eyes, may be with small pupil appearance, looking beyond you even if focused on you. Similar soft blurred lines like a cancer asc, but often with rounded limbs and a larger lower body, rounded feet. soft and dreamy movements.

Aquarius, Leo, Libra, Gemini and Sag ascendant I don't have much experience with to my knowledge. However I do think sun sign can bleed through a lot of the time, and I've seen Aqua sun as rectangular, tall, bones with knobby ends (large shoulders but not necessarily broad); similar with Leo but leo can have more flesh on them; sag long and lanky or very solid and square (but not very dense/heavy).
 
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besitos

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so for the actual thread subject - so again, physical attractiveness and sex appeal are not one and the same. from personal experience - I have heavy pluto and venus influence in my chart and have found that people are attracted to me in a sexual way - but my appearance is not conventionally pretty or even pretty at all. my venus is also in stressful aspect to the ascendant, and I've always felt mis-shapen and even ugly. Saturn is conjunct my aphrodite asteroid. I've also found that people are sexually attracted to me when they cannot see my appearance first - ie, on the phone, online. I also have a strong eros.

In my experience - people with strong eros are often seen as in a sexual lifestyle or circle - stripper, bartender, pornstar, with stereotypically sexy attributes like tattoos or simply "swag". It doesn't necessarily mean that they actually have sex appeal. That's in my experience.

So it's hard to talk about sex appeal in general, but I guess I would agree with what others have said - Pluto in the chart.
Physical appearance - let's say a generally attractive appearance is lack of gross asymmetry, well porportioned, healthy (which may include hygiene, but consider photoshoots where physically attractive people are covered in dirt to appear sexier, though rolling in dirt is not necessarily unhealthy, hygiene brings to mind cleanliness and no dirt) : perhaps virgo and libra in the chart or in sex planets, lack of stressful aspects to saturn for sex planets or ascendant.
 
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Somna7H

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Not to Quote Patrick Bateman/Christian Bale but

"...You have a negative attitude, that's what's stopping you, you need to get your act together..."

It's all cos of Exalted Saturn in 5th House in Libra. Inspite of following planetary placement nothing I can do about it.

Venus Conjunct Moon in Gemini.
NN Conjunct Mercury Conjunct Sun in Cancer. Saturn Conjunct Eros. Uranus Rx Conjunct Dsc. Pluto Conjunct Mars.
 

Fz hb

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IMHO sex appeal and beauty are two different things. I have seen people who are extremely beautiful and their ascendant also match their appearance but their personalities are not attractive and people get really bored around these beautiful people. And I have also seen people who are "meh" looking but they are soooo attractive. I guess they must have pluto close to ascendant like all the members are saying in this thread.
Btw I have moon, venus and pluto in Scorpio in 4th house. The stelium squares my AC/DC, and sextiles my neptune. The 4th house is ruled by libra. And i am cancer rising. I have been told all my life that I am ugly AF 😂
 
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UnluckyGirl

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Neptune/Pluto on ASC or DSC
it's not the same as being in 1st/7th H though.

Moon in Scorpio/Pisces
For beautiful eyes (not literally beautiful but those kind of eyes that speak to you and they mesmerize you)

I've found Mars in conjunction to Neptune especially in Cap to be Highly charming

Libra ASC.

I don't really agree about Mars-Venus having a huge impact.

Generally I've seen that people with lots of Neptune in their chart tend to be very charming unless smth ruins it in their chart.. but they have that otherwordly mesmerising beauty.

Pluto-Venus gives some charm too by itself but Neptune-Venus is not enough by itself.

Neptunian and Plutonian charts tend to be the most liked generally from my experience.
 
Well firstly, this is one of those posts that dive into a particularly complex area of astrological interpreting, and one beyond what most can understand, however I will do my best to explain what I can in a way that I hope makes at least some sense.

First of all, the ascendant, aka the 1st house, is what determines your physical looks. Nothing else will determine your physical looks, not even mars or venus (though if they or any other planet or sign are in any aspect with your ascendant, they will have some influence).

With that said, what one finds to be attractive depends on what there own mind sees as physically beautiful. Our mind is represented by mercury and mercury alone. So whatever sign your mercury is in would be what sign you find most physically attractive on the ascendant (physical looks and appearance).

For example, if my mercury is in capricorn, I will think in a capricornian/saturnian way, and will see whatever is saturnian as most attractive and ideal as a result. Which means I will find someone whose ascendant is heavily saturnian, I will find them more on the attractive side.

So really all this shows is that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
 

UnluckyGirl

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Well firstly, this is one of those posts that dive into a particularly complex area of astrological interpreting, and one beyond what most can understand, however I will do my best to explain what I can in a way that I hope makes at least some sense.

First of all, the ascendant, aka the 1st house, is what determines your physical looks. Nothing else will determine your physical looks, not even mars or venus (though if they or any other planet or sign are in any aspect with your ascendant, they will have some influence).

With that said, what one finds to be attractive depends on what there own mind sees as physically beautiful. Our mind is represented by mercury and mercury alone. So whatever sign your mercury is in would be what sign you find most physically attractive on the ascendant (physical looks and appearance).

For example, if my mercury is in capricorn, I will think in a capricornian/saturnian way, and will see whatever is saturnian as most attractive and ideal as a result. Which means I will find someone whose ascendant is heavily saturnian, I will find them more on the attractive side.

So really all this shows is that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

This feels so wrong in many ways
 

BlackLioness87

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Well firstly, this is one of those posts that dive into a particularly complex area of astrological interpreting, and one beyond what most can understand, however I will do my best to explain what I can in a way that I hope makes at least some sense.

First of all, the ascendant, aka the 1st house, is what determines your physical looks. Nothing else will determine your physical looks, not even mars or venus (though if they or any other planet or sign are in any aspect with your ascendant, they will have some influence).

With that said, what one finds to be attractive depends on what there own mind sees as physically beautiful. Our mind is represented by mercury and mercury alone. So whatever sign your mercury is in would be what sign you find most physically attractive on the ascendant (physical looks and appearance).

For example, if my mercury is in capricorn, I will think in a capricornian/saturnian way, and will see whatever is saturnian as most attractive and ideal as a result. Which means I will find someone whose ascendant is heavily saturnian, I will find them more on the attractive side.

So really all this shows is that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
My mercury is in Cancer, it's really difficult to know anyone's ASC so I don't know how many times I felt attracted to Cancer ASC males. So far, the hottest man I ever known has Aries ASC, Venus in Virgo and Mars in Libra tight conjunction (pretty androgynous), his Venus and Mars fall in my 1H and his ASC in my 8H. :D

The beauty is in the chart of the beholder as you say ;)

EDIT: I forgot to mention his Moon also falls in my 1H and his Jupiter is in exact conjunction with my Mercury.

P.S: I know a very attractive girl with Venus and Mars loosely conjunct in Libra (she has a pretty androgynous face), Uranus square her ASC and she has Libra 29° MC (almost Scorpio) with some personal planets in Scorpio 10H. I would say she's very sexy but in a playful and innocent way.
 
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UnluckyGirl

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Why exactly?

I don't even know where to start from.

Venus, 5th and 7th H are the most important when it comes to what we find attractive.

The OP was talking about natal charts indicating high sex appeal/beautiful appearance. A person with Neptune and/or Pluto in hard aspect to his natal planets is going to have thise aspects repeated with the people in his generation.
I can't think of how many times I've seen people who are not above than average yet they are so charming (I'm talking about the majority of people).

Then ASC and its aspects, indicate physical appearance
Moon shows someone's eyes
Venus and ASC (and their aspects and placements) indicate one's style.

I wish astrology was as simple as that. But people are complicated same is astrology
 
I don't even know where to start from.

Venus, 5th and 7th H are the most important when it comes to what we find attractive.

The OP was talking about natal charts indicating high sex appeal/beautiful appearance. A person with Neptune and/or Pluto in hard aspect to his natal planets is going to have thise aspects repeated with the people in his generation.
I can't think of how many times I've seen people who are not above than average yet they are so charming (I'm talking about the majority of people).

Then ASC and its aspects, indicate physical appearance
Moon shows someone's eyes
Venus and ASC (and their aspects and placements) indicate one's style.

I wish astrology was as simple as that. But people are complicated same is astrology

No offense, but I think you might want to do more research and some homework, because the ASC is widely accepted and known to be what rules our body and thus our physical looks as a whole, aspects to the ASC as well.

Venus is the planet that has ownership over attractiveness, so it doesnt really determine our physical looks the same way that our ASC does. It is what REPRESENTS our overall attractiveness, but not by determining our bodies physical looks, but really just our style like you said.

Moon has nothing to do with our eyes, as it has nothing to do with our body and has no ruler ship over any physical parts of our bodies. What makes you think it does?

You got it all mixed up lol
 
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UnluckyGirl

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No offense, but I think you might want to do more research and some homework, because the ASC is widely accepted and known to be what rules our body and thus our physical looks as a whole, aspects to the ASC as well.

Venus is the planet that has ownership over attractiveness, so it doesnt really determine our physical looks the same way that our ASC does. It is what REPRESENTS our overall attractiveness, but not by determining our bodies physical looks, but really just our style like you said.

Moon has nothing to do with our eyes, as it has nothing to do with our body and has no ruler ship over any physical parts of our bodies. What makes you think it does?

You got it all mixed up lol

I don't see where we actually disagree about AsC and Venus?

As for Moon what makes me say it is the high rate of guessing right Moon signs nust based on people's eyes and the vibe they give me when I see them upclose or on TV, pics aren't always as successfull. The few times I've been wrong it's when the Moon has many "flavors" so I sense them all and can't decide which one of them is its sign since aspects override signs.

I have a bit a few than 150 charts of people I've known through the years (including relatives and friends). That'w because of my mom's and aunt's jobs.

I don't have an idea hownmany are the other ones as the first few years I would go into chat sites and guess someone's Mercury by the way he communicated, his Venus (by his tastes in music style etc), and if there was a pic his ASC and Moon.
I've asked each ones birth details. Most of coyrse didn't know their time of birth but a lot did.

Also these forums are a huge help for understanding some facts by looking someone's chart
 
I don't see where we actually disagree about AsC and Venus?

As for Moon what makes me say it is the high rate of guessing right Moon signs nust based on people's eyes and the vibe they give me when I see them upclose or on TV, pics aren't always as successfull. The few times I've been wrong it's when the Moon has many "flavors" so I sense them all and can't decide which one of them is its sign since aspects override signs.

I have a bit a few than 150 charts of people I've known through the years (including relatives and friends). That'w because of my mom's and aunt's jobs.

I don't have an idea hownmany are the other ones as the first few years I would go into chat sites and guess someone's Mercury by the way he communicated, his Venus (by his tastes in music style etc), and if there was a pic his ASC and Moon.
I've asked each ones birth details. Most of coyrse didn't know their time of birth but a lot did.

Also these forums are a huge help for understanding some facts by looking someone's chart

ASC represents how we appear to others, as it determines our body. Venus is representative of our overall style. Style isnt the same as our body.

Style is our choice of clothes, our artistic ability. Our body is our physical body.

I can't stress enough that ASC is the only planet that determines anything about our body.
 
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