Donald Trump will be impeached.

piercethevale

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Yale Psychiatrists blaming Pelosi for not enacting upon Trump, the Emergency "non-compliance 72 Hour Mental Health Hold" ....(its an "I told you so" by a whole list of psychiatrists...


https://www.mediaite.com/online/gue...th-iran-sometime-prior-to-the-election-video/


Original article on SALON:
“Since he is incapable of putting himself in another person’s shoes, he projects his own thoughts entirely onto others,” she said. “Hence, we can deduce that what he has said about Mr. Obama has nothing to do with the former president but has only to do with the way he himself thinks.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/ya...ental-health-hold-on-trump-after-iran-attack/


Note: The Black Moon Lilith needs to be studied in his natal chart by astrologers interested in serious projection....

Trumps' natal Lilith is at 04* Sag. 28' 48". By my experience of over 35 years Lilith only affects by direct conj., that is a conjunction by a one degree orb. It is not a factor by its placement in that particular degree, although, [and this is most timely as I only became aware of this website about an hour ago... talk about synchronicity...whooo boy] by Sign placement the following link gives a very revelatory interpretation for such a placement in the Sign of Sagittarius: https://astrolibrary.org/interpretations/lilith/

In addition, I've checked Trumps progressed natal chart as well as its synastry with the USA's natal and progressed chart ...and between natal charts as well... and can find nothing that indicates that Lilith is a factor in aspect to the current affairs.... other than by Sign placement [see the above link for the interpretation of Lilith in Sag.].

There is the question of what Trumps natal, and progressed, Lilith might be affecting in Trumps natal chart and the natal chart of the USA, in regards to Astrological Parts, but at the moment I can't find the full list of Astrological Parts I derived from Trump's natal chart and I'll get back to you all if and when I do. However, I do recall noting in an old thread, somewhere in the forum, that Trump has something in his natal chart that is of affect upon the Part of War for the USA, or it may be vice versa. I also distinctly remember that it amounted to Trump not getting swept up in public emotion, or, again, vice versa.

The one exception, to all of the above is that the Sidereal procession adjusted natal Part of Success, [there is more than one Astrological Part so named and I don't readily have at hand which one of those is in question here. Thus it may in fact not even actually be a Part of "Success", bu rather something entirely different?] for the USA, may have been conj. Trumps natal B.M. Lilith at the time of His birth. I'm not so interested in this matter concerning only one solitary Astrological Part, however, to spend the time to derive where the Sidereal procession located that Part of Success at the time of Trumps birth. If you think it to be of importance, have at.

I do thank you for bringing the subject up as Trumps' natal Lilith by Sign placement is quite revelatory, by the above links' interpretation, and I think that everyone will likely say, "Ah Ha", out loud or under their breath when they read it.
 

JUPITERASC

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IMPEACHMENT SLOW MODE:
Mitch McConnell MAY DISMISS President Trump CHARGES :smile:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbi_5_jQDLg




Trumps' natal Lilith is at 04* Sag. 28' 48". By my experience of over 35 years Lilith only affects by direct conj., that is a conjunction by a one degree orb. It is not a factor by its placement in that particular degree, although, [and this is most timely as I only became aware of this website about an hour ago... talk about synchronicity...whooo boy] by Sign placement the following link gives a very revelatory interpretation for such a placement in the Sign of Sagittarius: https://astrolibrary.org/interpretations/lilith/

In addition, I've checked Trumps progressed natal chart as well as its synastry with the USA's natal and progressed chart ...and between natal charts as well... and can find nothing that indicates that Lilith is a factor in aspect to the current affairs.... other than by Sign placement [see the above link for the interpretation of Lilith in Sag.].

There is the question of what Trumps natal, and progressed, Lilith might be affecting in Trumps natal chart and the natal chart of the USA, in regards to Astrological Parts, but at the moment I can't find the full list of Astrological Parts I derived from Trump's natal chart and I'll get back to you all if and when I do. However, I do recall noting in an old thread, somewhere in the forum, that Trump has something in his natal chart that is of affect upon the Part of War for the USA, or it may be vice versa. I also distinctly remember that it amounted to Trump not getting swept up in public emotion, or, again, vice versa.

The one exception, to all of the above is that the Sidereal procession adjusted natal Part of Success, [there is more than one Astrological Part so named and I don't readily have at hand which one of those is in question here. Thus it may in fact not even actually be a Part of "Success", bu rather something entirely different?] for the USA, may have been conj. Trumps natal B.M. Lilith at the time of His birth. I'm not so interested in this matter concerning only one solitary Astrological Part, however, to spend the time to derive where the Sidereal procession located that Part of Success at the time of Trumps birth. If you think it to be of importance, have at.

I do thank you for bringing the subject up as Trumps' natal Lilith by Sign placement is quite revelatory, by the above links' interpretation, and I think that everyone will likely say, "Ah Ha", out loud or under their breath when they read it.
 

piercethevale

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Trumps' natal Lilith is at 04* Sag. 28' 48". By my experience of over 35 years Lilith only affects by direct conj., that is a conjunction by a one degree orb. It is not a factor by its placement in that particular degree, although, [and this is most timely as I only became aware of this website about an hour ago... talk about synchronicity...whooo boy] by Sign placement the following link gives a very revelatory interpretation for such a placement in the Sign of Sagittarius: https://astrolibrary.org/interpretations/lilith/

In addition, I've checked Trumps progressed natal chart as well as its synastry with the USA's natal and progressed chart ...and between natal charts as well... and can find nothing that indicates that Lilith is a factor in aspect to the current affairs.... other than by Sign placement [see the above link for the interpretation of Lilith in Sag.].

There is the question of what Trumps natal, and progressed, Lilith might be affecting in Trumps natal chart and the natal chart of the USA, in regards to Astrological Parts, but at the moment I can't find the full list of Astrological Parts I derived from Trump's natal chart and I'll get back to you all if and when I do. However, I do recall noting in an old thread, somewhere in the forum, that Trump has something in his natal chart that is of affect upon the Part of War for the USA, or it may be vice versa. I also distinctly remember that it amounted to Trump not getting swept up in public emotion, or, again, vice versa.

The one exception, to all of the above is that the Sidereal procession adjusted natal Part of Success, [there is more than one Astrological Part so named and I don't readily have at hand which one of those is in question here. Thus it may in fact not even actually be a Part of "Success", bu rather something entirely different?] for the USA, may have been conj. Trumps natal B.M. Lilith at the time of His birth. I'm not so interested in this matter concerning only one solitary Astrological Part, however, to spend the time to derive where the Sidereal procession located that Part of Success at the time of Trumps birth. If you think it to be of importance, have at.

I do thank you for bringing the subject up as Trumps' natal Lilith by Sign placement is quite revelatory, by the above links' interpretation, and I think that everyone will likely say, "Ah Ha", out loud or under their breath when they read it.

The Part of Success aka Pat of Triumph [ read Bonatti/Zoeller for more on that, and as a Part of Triumph it is used only in horary and I'm highly doubtful that it is] is derived from Asc. + Jupiter - Part of Fortune. It is the only Astrological Part that I know of [and I know a lot of them, see my "Sticky" in the Astrological Parts sub-forum], outside of the Sun, that has a formula where-in the Part of Fortune is the "Trigger" to a planetary, or luminary, body is the "Significator".
The one exception is that I have postulated that the formula derived from Asc. + Venus - Part of Fortune will amount to a 'Part of Compassion'.

By tradition, the formula derived from Asc. + Sun - Part of Fortune = Part of Noble & Illustrious Acquaintances, and I have satisfactorily proven for myself that to be true and I have also done as much with the opposite formula, Asc. + Part of Fortune - Sun, to know that what it provides us with is a Part of Noble & Illustrious Acquaintances [as to] Those That Deem You As Such...and there by demonstrating that the former formula is what provides the answer as to those you deem as such.

It does seem very plausible that the formula Asc. + Jupiter - Part of Fortune is about "success", but as to to successfully employing the attributes of what Jupiter embodies.

Regarding Donald Trump if his B.M. Lilith then does indeed conjunct the USA's natal Part of Success then I would have to surmise that it is mostly in regard to that aspect of Jupiter that provides us with the belief in, the embodiment of, Brotherhood... which would then effect all things related to the ...ahem..."socialistic".

..and all the more reason for me to vote for Bernie Sanders, or Tulsi, this year... and to ask those of you that believe we should embody the concept of Brotherhood as a nation to do so as well.... [again,that is IF IT DOES conjunct that Part. Personally, I'm voting for Bernie anyways, or Tulsi, if either do get the nomination...but if they don't, I've no other choice, presently, than to vote for Trump this November.]
 
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leomoon

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piercethevale:



We'll need to check his Nemesis:
Lot of Nemesis:

  • [Day] Lot = Ascendant + Fortune - Saturn
  • [Night] Lot = Ascendant + Saturn - Fortune
  • Schmidt's Correction: Lot = Ascendant + Saturn - Fortune
This lot is based upon Saturn. It seems to indicate what is most likely to bring the native down. Nixon had nemesis in Gemini near the midheaven. He was brought down by the news media and too much negative public exposure (midheaven). According to Paulus:
"Nemesis becomes a contributing cause of subterranean fates and of everything which is ice-cold, of demonstration, impotence, exile, destruction, grief, and quality of death." [20]​
The sign where nemesis falls seems to indicate what leads to the natives undoing. If it is Aries: it is the sword, or impatience; Taurus: the love of money; Gemini: slander, the media, a duplicitous lifestyle; Cancer: insecurity or attachment, large crowds, getting lost; Leo: pride and arrogance, excessive visibility, water; Virgo: lack of faith, jumping to conclusions; Libra: plasticity, divorce, separation, the pen; Scorpio: murder, plots, jealousy, scheming, lack of trust; Sagittarius: intemperance, intolerance, entrapment; Capricorn: carelessness, neglect; Aquarius: large gatherings, loneliness, political incorrectness; Pisces: indiscretion, being gullible.


************I haven't looked up his Part of Nemesis yet, but there is an asteroid with this name too: On Election Day 2020, Tr Neptune will trine this asteroid from the 7th house of the others.

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leomoon

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piercethevale:
http://www.astrology-x-files.com/x-files/arabic-parts.html


Hellenistic Astrology:

The traditional major aspects are sometimes called Ptolemaic aspects since they were defined and used by Ptolemy in the 1st Century, AD. These aspects are the conjunction (0°), sextile (60°), square (90°), trine (120°), and opposition (180°).

I don't mean to be contrary :love: BUT there is something within my personality (perhaps akin to my nemesis Trump?) which insists on never listening to rules which say "never do".....When I hear that, I automatically investigate and do the opposite as long as its not within the realm of illegal or completely "off the rails". So in true spirit of my handle in the natal chart I own, (11th house Uranus is the bucket handle) cj. my NN without any other planets above the horizon, I seldom practice my astrology like the others do. However, I do of course, respect their opinions even if I color outside their lines.

btw: G.W.Bush also has this conundrum of Uranus cj. NN in 11th BUT unlike me, has planets in his 12th house too and the NN is on the opposite side from mine. (could never quite pinpoint how that made us so opposite, but it does) Mine (NN) on the west, his on the east of Uranus.




For example: Trump has BML SEXTILE his Neptune, the only Ptolemaic aspect it makes within one degree orb. (although I've been known to nudge those damned orbs too when I feel like it.



His "natural instinct" is to lie his **** off! Thats just him, that even his most ardent supporters agree that's HIM in a nutshell! (Tucker Carlson for example admitted this on his show) It "may" also cause his ultimate downfall too.


I checked quickly his natal, although I want to find the time like you to also check his Lots out and post hopefully, a different chart using them, "just to see" what is potentially going on with him.


Meanwhile, I found this link which pertains to his BML & Neptune :


http://www.sevenstarsastrology.com/t...y-combination/



Sextile
Quote:
Note that each of the domiciles of Venus (Taurus and Libra) are at a 60-degree angle from the domiciles of one of the lights (Sun or Moon). This relationship is called a sextile as it is composed of two signs 60 degrees apart (60 degrees is a 1/6th of the zodiac). The relationship is one of complement, much like the nature of Venus.
 
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leomoon

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#3900 pierce the vale:


I came across this which I thought interesting in light of the upcoming November 4th, 2020 Elections:




(from: http://www.astrology-x-files.com/x-files/arabic-parts.html )



*******seems to say, it’s the same whether Away from home OR Accusation:
[FONT=&quot]Lot of Being Away From Home:[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]

  • [FONT=&quot][Day] Lot = Ascendant + Mars - Saturn[/FONT]
  • [FONT=&quot][Night] Lot = Ascendant + Saturn - Mars[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]As in being forced to take a hike[/FONT][FONT=&quot]. Like exile, as Naplolean was at Waterloo.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Lot of Accusation:[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]

  • [FONT=&quot][Day] Lot = Ascendant + Mars - Saturn[/FONT]
  • [FONT=&quot][Night] Lot = Ascendant + Saturn - Mars[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]According to Valens this lot indicates the house [sign] through which the native is likely to experience failure, dangers, or downfalls.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [29] This lot is also known as the lot of injury and sometimes the lot of being away from home.[/FONT]
For Trump it’s Cancer: 26 deg.48min. conjunct his natal Venus and opposite Tr. Saturn on November 4th, within arc minutes…..
 

piercethevale

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piercethevale:



We'll need to check his Nemesis:
Lot of Nemesis:

  • [Day] Lot = Ascendant + Fortune - Saturn
  • [Night] Lot = Ascendant + Saturn - Fortune
  • Schmidt's Correction: Lot = Ascendant + Saturn - Fortune
This lot is based upon Saturn. It seems to indicate what is most likely to bring the native down. Nixon had nemesis in Gemini near the midheaven. He was brought down by the news media and too much negative public exposure (midheaven). According to Paulus:
"Nemesis becomes a contributing cause of subterranean fates and of everything which is ice-cold, of demonstration, impotence, exile, destruction, grief, and quality of death." [20]​
The sign where nemesis falls seems to indicate what leads to the natives undoing. If it is Aries: it is the sword, or impatience; Taurus: the love of money; Gemini: slander, the media, a duplicitous lifestyle; Cancer: insecurity or attachment, large crowds, getting lost; Leo: pride and arrogance, excessive visibility, water; Virgo: lack of faith, jumping to conclusions; Libra: plasticity, divorce, separation, the pen; Scorpio: murder, plots, jealousy, scheming, lack of trust; Sagittarius: intemperance, intolerance, entrapment; Capricorn: carelessness, neglect; Aquarius: large gatherings, loneliness, political incorrectness; Pisces: indiscretion, being gullible.


************I haven't looked up his Part of Nemesis yet, but there is an asteroid with this name too: On Election Day 2020, Tr Neptune will trine this asteroid from the 7th house of the others.

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I suggest that you read my thread on the Part of Sudden Advancement aka Hermetic Lot of Nemesis.
The Part/Lot is not what you apparently think it is.
I've studied it extensively and I know quite well what it is.
 

piercethevale

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#3900 pierce the vale:


I came across this which I thought interesting in light of the upcoming November 4th, 2020 Elections:




(from: http://www.astrology-x-files.com/x-files/arabic-parts.html )



*******seems to say, it’s the same whether Away from home OR Accusation:
[FONT=&quot]Lot of Being Away From Home:[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]

  • [FONT=&quot][Day] Lot = Ascendant + Mars - Saturn[/FONT]
  • [FONT=&quot][Night] Lot = Ascendant + Saturn - Mars[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]As in being forced to take a hike[/FONT][FONT=&quot]. Like exile, as Naplolean was at Waterloo.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Lot of Accusation:[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]

  • [FONT=&quot][Day] Lot = Ascendant + Mars - Saturn[/FONT]
  • [FONT=&quot][Night] Lot = Ascendant + Saturn - Mars[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]According to Valens this lot indicates the house [sign] through which the native is likely to experience failure, dangers, or downfalls.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [29] This lot is also known as the lot of injury and sometimes the lot of being away from home.[/FONT]
For Trump it’s Cancer: 26 deg.48min. conjunct his natal Venus and opposite Tr. Saturn on November 4th, within arc minutes…..

Lot of Being Away From Home?
I believe that is for horary use.
The two formulae you have suggested are for the Lot of Surgery aka Lot of Police/Army and the Lot of Sickness aka Lot of Danger, although it also is known by the Lot of Accusations.

I also don't believe in the Diurnal vs Nocturnal switching of formulae and am have enough experience studying Lots/Parts to be thoroughly convinced that one should never switch formulae regardless of what time of day or night a person was born. Maybe for horary, as I've not studied horary astrology but I have little confidence in it... although I have had some success using it but through the application of the Sabian Symbols.

P.S. Late Edit. Giving it some more thought I find this title you supplied, i.e. the Lot of Being Away From Home, to be intriguing and I will study it. It seems that it could apply to natal charts.
Thank you for your contribution.
 
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piercethevale

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Without the use of the Sabian Symbols one will never truly understand the Astrological Parts.

I've many threads in the Degree Symbols sub-forum and the Astrological Parts forum in which I demonstrate this... and explain why one should never go switching formulae regardless of when a person is born.

Ptolemy is just some old, and long dead, Greek dude to me... He didn't invent anything, or discover anything, He merely passed on what was known before and often that knowledge was incomplete, that is to say, partially or mostly lost.

I'm all about the rectification of astrology, that's what I was born to do.
It's a new age :biggrin: and the rectification of astrology will happen with you, or without you, being a part of it.
 

JUPITERASC

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Lickspittle McConnell would just as soon scrap the Constitution and anoint Trumpeached as King.
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leomoon

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I suppose IF I had a tombstone or obituary (which I plan on having neither) :whistling:; it would say my life is summed up with a few words:


"To each his own". my motto in life. I never try to convince others how to envision anything. Its just ingrained in me by a wonderful mom, (Sagittarius Sun) who taught me the philosophy of higher living. I'm forever in her debt for doing so.





for Pierce the Vale: Have you a link for these posts you talked about above? I'd like to see them.
Jupiter: Diane Feinstein is well past her prime and needs to retire. You can add all those OLD WHITE MEN too, to the "should retire list" imo - including Pelosi. I'm not one that reveres the aged and believe they ALL need "term limits" at the trough.

* age exceptions for POTUS: Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders. Why? Because they are progressive and younger thinking then the stodgy old farts currently in D.C. I felt the same about Nancy Pelosi when she ran AGAIN.




Arianna Huffington once wrote about corporate greed and political greedy ones (Republican Supreme Court judge said "Corporations are people too, my friend".....but Donald J. Trump is part of the problem and NOT the solution (imo)

“A rousing call to action against special interests that have all too often triumphed over the national interest. As only she can, Arianna Huffington breathes energy and passion into the reform agenda. A withering, breathtaking, quintessentially controversial book that will inspire, inflame, and educate.”
—Senator John McCain
http://ariannahuffington.com/books/pigs-at-the-trough-tr/pigs-at-the-trough-el
 
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david starling

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I suppose IF I had a tombstone or obituary (which I plan on having neither) :whistling:; it would say my life is summed up with a few words:


"To each his own". my motto in life. I never try to convince others how to envision anything. Its just ingrained in me by a wonderful mom, (Sagittarius Sun) who taught me the philosophy of higher living. I'm forever in her debt for doing so.





for Pierce the Vale: Have you a link for these posts you talked about above? I'd like to see them.

How 'bout, "Between the right way, the wrong way, or the highway, I chose the High Way.". :innocent:
 

leomoon

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Nancy Pelosi announced today, she is sending over the 2 Articles of Impeachment next week. The trial may start after MLK Day (a holiday in D.C.) It may of course not even be a trial since McConnell has not said he'd allow any witnesses, and vows to just Acquit Trump. He met with Trump yesterday to talk about this set-up sham.



Meanwhile, Noah Bookbinder said that never before in the history of Impeachment hearings (and there have been 15 in all by the Senate) have they not been witnesses called. Of course, others have been Impeached besides Presidents in our history.
Noah Bookbinder is executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington and a former federal corruption prosecutor.




Note:
Speaking to reporters this Friday, Susan Collins (R-ME) said that she’s working with a “fairly small group” of Republican senators with the purpose of allowing witnesses to testify in the Senate trial of President Trump, the Bangor Daily News reports.
 

JUPITERASC

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Nancy Pelosi announced today, she is sending over the 2 Articles of Impeachment next week. The trial may start after MLK Day (a holiday in D.C.) It may of course not even be a trial since McConnell has not said he'd allow any witnesses, and vows to just Acquit Trump. He met with Trump yesterday to talk about this set-up sham.

Meanwhile, Noah Bookbinder said that never before in the history of Impeachment hearings (and there have been 15 in all by the Senate) have they not been witnesses called. Of course, others have been Impeached besides Presidents in our history.
Noah Bookbinder is executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington and a former federal corruption prosecutor.

Note:
Speaking to reporters this Friday, Susan Collins (R-ME) said that she’s working with a “fairly small group” of Republican senators with the purpose of allowing witnesses to testify in the Senate trial of President Trump, the Bangor Daily News reports.
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