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If pluto sits in IC house - strong placed in own sign in intercepted scorpio under the surface of 4th house - your emotional basement - your emotional identity, your basic trust - you will go out into the world with - Yes this pluto I would call as dominant.

As pluto in 4th house is always connected with a very deep subconscious fear to get completely destroyed and abandoned and left alone. Intensified by pluto sextiling neptune and uranus in 6th house - ruled by saturn.

Uranus as ruler of 8th house - with uranus / pluto corresponding energy in 8th (called the earth-quake energy). 8th = death and near to death experience, shocks and traumata experience in own life- at point of your birth. With saturn in 8th house - on special degree of 0 pisces - between 2 signs and 2 worlds - the visible and the invisible - being aware of both at same time..

With this constellation - you have a very fine instinctive deep looking prewarning antenna for danger with - and can instinctively "smell and feel the rat under the surface". And probably had already early to learn it- and to get it trained for your self-protection - uranus in 6th house - work and working on something - inconjuncting your leo moon and your chiron in 1st house.

Venus in aries in a neptune ruled 9th house main ruling 4th house - mother experience in childhood - squaring uranus as ruler of 8th house in 6th house and neptune as landlord of 9th - where venus is as a tenant in.

I assume that your mother wasn't much available for you as a mother was not much a warm hearted, patient and cuddling mother. And that you probably very much needed an intercepted scorpio with pluto under the surface of 4th house- for protecting your emotional side - to stand it and to go through all in your childhood.
Thank you so so much for your insight. Yes that's actually why I've been so curious about both my pluto and my Saturn placements. When most look at my chart they see my Leo placements, my Venus in Aries, 11th house, and assume it's all fun and warm! However I grew up alone with my mother who is a dysfunctional alcoholic so I had to control everything or everyone would know the secret. As a very small child I checked the bills were payed, I washed my clothes in the sink with shampoo, I never ate or was hungry, I falsified her signature for school notes so she wouldn't go to teacher meetings falling over drunk and I mostly stayed alone in my room until it was time to fix some damage. She now has alcoholic dementia. I haven't seen her in years when I was trying to get her help and she tried to tase me lol

I had a very dark existence for many many years. I do believe those positive/strong/masculine Leo Aries and Sun placements are what got me through it. As soon as I freed myself at 15 and started living on my own everyone started dying. I've buried 5 people, 3 of which I had to organize funerals for because my mother was too drunk to do anything. Which I believe to be my 8th house Saturn. I also have a very strong feeling she and my absent father will physically or metaphysically die during my Saturn return which is soon to come.

I do in fact sense danger, in people, situations, places. Those who know me have seen it confirmed so often they don't really question me anymore when I tell them no on something.

Thank you so much for validating my complicated aspects. It means a lot!

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