Ukpoohbear
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Lol that was funny sorry
I'm a dude -.-
No, I just don't have time for it and it doesn't seem important. I'm more interested in the combination of "facts" and personal experience, and advice tailored to personal experience. It's also extremely easy to read about the history of soy cultivation and use on any website dedicated to agricultural or Chinese history, instead of taking for granted what you read on a health industry website. They are trying to compensate for an industry that gleefully and profitably put soy and its byproducts into every **** thing for the last 50 years. I mean, do you buy only meat and eggs that has not been fed soy? I actually do!
Dirius thanks for sharing the info on your diet plan. The logic makes sense plus corn doesn’t really seem digestable so it makes sense. Are tubers and potatoes the same thing?
All potatoes are tubers, but not all tubers are potatoes. Yams and sweet potatoes are also tubers. Any root vegetable that is actually an underground rhizome or stem, is a tuber.
Another way to tell if a vegetable is a tuber: it has eyes all over it, which will sprout if it's left in the cupboard too long.
I wonder if this diet is actually excluding nightshades. Potatoes are a nightshade, but sweet potatoes/yams are not.
Depends. According to this guy, potatoes should be avoided, they are a plant which is endemic to the american continent so might posses chemicals that are dangerous to human consumption, in the sense that they have only been in the european menu for about 500 years. He does recommend yams or sweet potatoes. Tubers such as carrots are fine. He has a long list you can check out.
One good rule of thumb you can use is: could you eat a certain food raw, digest it, and not die?
For example, you can eat raw carrots, mushrooms, lettuce, spinach, walnuts, olives, etc. and extract the nutritious value from these types of food and have no problems. You can even eat raw meat or eggs and properly digest them (the risk with raw meat or eggs is not the food itself, but bacterial and fungal contamination).
Can you eat raw beans? raw soy? raw wheat grain? Most of these food items would cause you severe problems if consumed raw, you would probably not be able to digest them, and some of them may even kill you. The only way you can consume them is by processing them, or fermenting them. Does that seem very "natural" to you?
All potatoes are tubers, but not all tubers are potatoes. Yams and sweet potatoes are also tubers. Any root vegetable that is actually an underground rhizome or stem, is a tuber.
Another way to tell if a vegetable is a tuber: it has eyes all over it, which will sprout if it's left in the cupboard too long.
I wonder if this diet is actually excluding nightshades. Potatoes are a nightshade, but sweet potatoes/yams are not.
It does.
Not sure exactly why, presumably because
a large variety come from the americas.
Apparently the alkaloids they contain
are not exactly good for humans.
This all make sense I like how he has taken the rational thought about where we come from and this could account for cultural and timeline differences between the Humoural and Ayurveda diet and looking for the connection between them. Yams/sweet potatoes are softer than potatoes so they seem easier to digest already.
The soy food was not recommended on the low fodmap diet I have previously been following and so I haven’t tried it yet and I’m looking into an alternative for wheat gluten in the Seitanic recipe.
I don’t want to like eggs but that might be the thing I compensate with in my vegan mission.
Btw, you are basically a vegetarian Mon-Fri now
Dirius, I used to eat exclusively uncooked foods, you can imagine how challenging that is, so .. very familiar with those lines of argument. Maybe here in the US I have access to lots more Chinese, Japanese, Korean descent people but have definitely observed significant *contextual* benefit for them of a diet including soy, not exclusively from fermented sources. Advice should always be taken in context, of yourself and of the giver. I personally think Gundry is talking to a bunch of people who have not been able to figure out how the Western diet has harmed them, his ads come on every website. He is very good in marketing.
Lions... don't cook. We cook. We are also gardeners, not just hunters and wildcraft gatherers.
I don't mind his theory. The first person to write about lectins for the popular press was actually the blood type diet guy. I do really hate the dispensing of someone's internally consistent but shallow theory, to people as if it applies to them equally. It doesn't apply to all people or all economies or cultures equally. Again, that's marketing :shrug:
Because it is a general statement, not tailored for the individual.
What is to stop you from carrying that statement onwards, and consuming only red superfood powder he sells?
Ancestral diet should show the way to your gut health and integrity. Your specific body types should refine your choices further. Additional refinements would come from your local environmental ecology (everyone leaves this out which is a bit stupefying), your ethics, your choices, what you can procure that is fresh, organically grown, local. Sometimes you have to change ancestral diet because the evolutionary sources are so profoundly polluted.. like the mercury industrial society has dumped into the oceans that sickens the fish-eating people of the North Pole regions. Or your ancestors were warlike brutes who didn't live very long, and their lifestyle just can't be adapted to your own in any meaningful way. You are Argentinian, but I assume European Argentinian, and not Native, otherwise the foods from the Americas WOULD be your foods, and not so bad.
I've tried a vegan diet of no legumes, with protein coming only from vegetables and nuts, and it is extremely difficult to sustain for most people, let alone those with Ukpoohbear's body type, and the theory alone cannot sustain gut healing and balanced health.
It doesn't matter if you have mentally chosen the best diet in the world, if you cannot observe it in practice.
Because it is a general statement, not tailored for the individual.
What is to stop you from carrying that statement onwards, and consuming only red superfood powder he sells?
Ancestral diet should show the way to your gut health and integrity. Your specific body types should refine your choices further. Additional refinements would come from your local environmental ecology (everyone leaves this out which is a bit stupefying), your ethics, your choices, what you can procure that is fresh, organically grown, local. Sometimes you have to change ancestral diet because the evolutionary sources are so profoundly polluted.. like the mercury industrial society has dumped into the oceans that sickens the fish-eating people of the North Pole regions. Or your ancestors were warlike brutes who didn't live very long, and their lifestyle just can't be adapted to your own in any meaningful way. You are Argentinian, but I assume European Argentinian, and not Native, otherwise the foods from the Americas WOULD be your foods, and not so bad.
I've tried a vegan diet of no legumes, with protein coming only from vegetables and nuts, and it is extremely difficult to sustain for most people, let alone those with Ukpoohbear's body type, and the theory alone cannot sustain gut healing and balanced health.
It doesn't matter if you have mentally chosen the best diet in the world, if you cannot observe it in practice.
In my country we have a very traditional meat based diet, revolving around what we call asado (slow cooked barbacued meat), and we usually consume it during the weekend at restaurants called parrillas. In fact I go with my friends one every Friday night for dinner. And on Sundays, I have asado in family gatherings.
The thing is that the meat I like takes too long to cook at home during the busy week days, so I guess that also plays a part for me not eating that much meat during the week days. My other option would be... Mc Donalds, but I rather pass.
Because it is a general statement, not tailored for the individual.
What is to stop you from carrying that statement onwards, and consuming only red superfood powder he sells?
Ancestral diet should show the way to your gut health and integrity. Your specific body types should refine your choices further. Additional refinements would come from your local environmental ecology (everyone leaves this out which is a bit stupefying), your ethics, your choices, what you can procure that is fresh, organically grown, local. Sometimes you have to change ancestral diet because the evolutionary sources are so profoundly polluted.. like the mercury industrial society has dumped into the oceans that sickens the fish-eating people of the North Pole regions. Or your ancestors were warlike brutes who didn't live very long, and their lifestyle just can't be adapted to your own in any meaningful way. You are Argentinian, but I assume European Argentinian, and not Native, otherwise the foods from the Americas WOULD be your foods, and not so bad.
I've tried a vegan diet of no legumes, with protein coming only from vegetables and nuts, and it is extremely difficult to sustain for most people, let alone those with Ukpoohbear's body type, and the theory alone cannot sustain gut healing and balanced health.
It doesn't matter if you have mentally chosen the best diet in the world, if you cannot observe it in practice.
Yes, it’s terrible what the cruelly-named “green revolution” seems to have done to soybeans. However, you can source soybeans that are not genetically modified and organically grown from better organic shops. Making a little tofu at home from organic soybeans will not be what kills her. I not sure what either you or Jupiter are talking about, but it doesn’t seem to be the health of Ukpoohbear, who is vegetarian, going vegan, and not able to digest half of what you mentioned due to IBS.
Broccoli, brussels sprouts, one cup of olive oil. Again, not tailored to what we'd already been discussing. It just doesn't make sense to give very specific criticisms like you did "soy is the worst thing for you!" without even trying to understand where the recommendation came from and what it encompassed. no, you'd rather promote your personal diet. maybe it's to be expected on the internet - most people are not actually trained advisors. even physicians can have terrible advising skills.
I think the confusion has come because there’s so much confusion around diets in the first place.