AllSeeingEyes
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Would SUN TRINE PLUTO 6 degs be a wide or tight orb? And is six degrees strong?
Is sun trine pluto in 6 degrees considered wide orb?
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miquar
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Hi. Personally I think it's quite wide, but worth keeping in mind. There are some things that could make it more significant. One is if the Sun doesn't make many close aspects, and so this trine becomes a relatively prominent indicator of how the Sun is integrated into the rest of the chart (though there are also other things to explore if this is the case - mainly higher harmonic charts and midpoints). Another thing is that if the Sun and Pluto both make tighter aspects to another body or node, all three get pulled together, especially if that 3rd factor sits on the direct or indirect Sun/Pluto midpoint.
Best wishes
Miquar
Best wishes
Miquar
Osamenor
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Another factor I'd consider is whether the trine is separating or applying. The sun moves much faster than Pluto, so if the sun is six degrees earlier than an exact trine with Pluto, it's applying. If the sun is six degrees later than an exact trine, it's separating, that is, the trine has already happened.
Applying aspects in a natal chart are stronger than separating aspects, because an applying aspect will perfect by progression. Planets in a separating aspect will just get farther apart by progression. So the applying aspect will manifest much more clearly over the native's life.
Applying aspects in a natal chart are stronger than separating aspects, because an applying aspect will perfect by progression. Planets in a separating aspect will just get farther apart by progression. So the applying aspect will manifest much more clearly over the native's life.
AllSeeingEyes
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How do i know if its applied or seperated? Is it if theres a plus next to the degrees symbol like 06'41+? Becauae i usually notice plus amd minus signs next to degree symbols.
AllSeeingEyes
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Ah okay i see, so then its applied in my case.. i didnt quite understand at first so glad to have u reiterate
AllSeeingEyes
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Pluto is like 22 degrees or so and my sun is 6 degrees in leo.
conspiracy theorist
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a) Is Pluto in Scorpio or Sagittarius?
b) Is there a 1 missing in any of the figures you gave?
b) Is there a 1 missing in any of the figures you gave?
AllSeeingEyes
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Yes pluto in sagg. Familar to u?
And what do u mean a 1 missing in the figures i gave? A 1 refering to what?
conspiracy theorist
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6 Leo and 22 Sagittarius?You're pretty young m8 and that's way beyond a six degree orb. Try 16
JUPITERASC
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Pluto was at 22 Sagittarius 2005
so either aged twelve
or the data is incorrect
conspiracy theorist
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22 Pluto Sagittarius was 15 years ago...**** we're getting old Jupiter
JUPITERASC
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Cheer up - so is everyone else
also Vettius Valens is even older
notice
the following data posted by the OP on another thread
with the same question
clearly shows
OP is twenty or thereabouts
because
JUPITER SATURN ARIES conjunction
plus those other planetary locations
could only have occurred end July 1996
FOR THOSE WITH NO EPHEMERIS
FREE 9000 YEAR EPHEMERIS FILES ONLINE AT
http://www.astro.com/swisseph/swepha_e.htm
conspiracy theorist
Well-known member
Cheer up - so is everyone else
also Vettius Valens is even older
notice
the following data posted by the OP on another thread
with the same question
clearly shows
OP is twenty or thereabouts
because
JUPITER SATURN ARIES conjunction
plus those other planetary locations
could only have occurred end July 1996
FOR THOSE WITH NO EPHEMERIS
FREE 9000 YEAR EPHEMERIS FILES ONLINE AT
http://www.astro.com/swisseph/swepha_e.htm
So the OP provided false information about
His Pluto placement?
JUPITERASC
Well-known member
Apparently
So the OP provided false information about
His Pluto placement?
- unless OP exercising self-styled "being sarcastic trait" aspect
Osamenor
Staff member
Forgot to mention: if you have a chart from Astrodienst, with the aspect grid they give you along with the chart, they tell you whether the aspect is separating or applying in the grid. If it's separating, it has an S, and if it's applying, it has an A.
The plus and minus signs tell you how many degrees it is from an exact aspect, but that alone doesn't tell you whether it's separating or applying.
If sun is at 6 Leo and Pluto at 0 Sagittarius, the aspect grid would say -6S. The sun and Pluto are 114 degrees apart, which is 6 less than 120, which is why it's a minus. But an aspect could be + however many degrees and still be separating. If the sun were at 6 Aries instead of Leo, with Pluto in the same position, it would be separating at +6, with the sun 126 degrees away from Pluto.
The plus and minus signs tell you how many degrees it is from an exact aspect, but that alone doesn't tell you whether it's separating or applying.
If sun is at 6 Leo and Pluto at 0 Sagittarius, the aspect grid would say -6S. The sun and Pluto are 114 degrees apart, which is 6 less than 120, which is why it's a minus. But an aspect could be + however many degrees and still be separating. If the sun were at 6 Aries instead of Leo, with Pluto in the same position, it would be separating at +6, with the sun 126 degrees away from Pluto.
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graay ghost
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Everyone is saying 6 degrees Sun Pluto is a wide orb but the Sun is typically given a wider orb than any other planet, except maybe the moon. I've heard aspects apply to the Sun as long as they're within 10 degrees from many. In which case 6 degrees is more of a medium-sized orb, probably less significant if it's separating than if it was applying.