Black Lives Matter, Marxist?

aquarius7000

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Re: Aunt on Facebook

Since you're calling BLM Marxist, your post is much more suitable for this thread than where you originally put it. I moved it here for that reason. Haven't had a chance to read the article yet, but when I do, I may have a response of my own. I expect there's more than one tangent to go on from it.
The idea was just to share the article that seemed to have the same topic of discussion as on the Aunt on FB thread. It is sad that some are so fixated in seeing things just from one angle and one angle only that they won't even consider that there is another side to the coin.
 

Osamenor

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Re: Aunt on Facebook

The idea was just to share the article that seemed to have the same topic of discussion as on the Aunt on FB thread. It is sad that some are so fixated in seeing things just from one angle and one angle only that they won't even consider that there is another side to the coin.

The seeing things from one angle part could fairly be said of all of us. We can only see anything from our own angle.

The multiple sides of the coin is something to discuss, but I don't have time for it right now.
 

blackbery

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Re: Aunt on Facebook

Good for pointing that out Dirius.
The Communists and Marxists seek to destroy the family unit in order that people will turn to THEM and became part of the STATEHOOD family.

Children in Vietnam were ordered to snitch on their parents and neighbours were ordered to snitch on their neighbours and friends.
It creates a culture of fear and intimidation where nobody feels safe, not in their own family. BLM is a radical Marxist movement and destroying the family goes along with them destroying the history of the country and the law enforcement that brings law and order. BLM thrives on chaos, fear and all the usual terrorist tactics deployed by totalitarian regimes.

The Chicago Mayor FINALLY agreed with Trump to allow 200 Federal Agents to quell the 100 gun deaths each weekend with black on black crime. Her own constituents want an end to the violence that is reigning over the city.

BLM then went to her home last night, rioting and demanding that she resign.
Attacking even the Black, Liberal Mayor because she is realizing the violence is totally out of control in her Democrat-run city is just another terrorist technique of radical BLM to prevent peace.

In a statement obtained by the Chicago Sun-Times, the mayor’s office said Trump “reached out to Mayor Lightfoot this evening to confirm that he plans to send federal resources to Chicago to supplement ongoing federal investigations pertaining to violent crime.”

Trump is deploying officers to Chicago and also to Albuquerque, New Mexico, as part of the national Operation Legend anti-violence initiative, which is named for LeGend Taliferro, a 4-year-old shot dead in Kansas City.

Earlier this month, federal officers were sent to Portland, Oregon, to protect a federal courthouse from rioters, and to Kansas City to quell violence as part of Operation Legend.


https://nypost.com/2020/07/23/trump-chicago-mayor-lori-lightfoot-agree-to-deployment-of-feds/











Yet another example of the marxsist attempt to destroy the nuclear family.

"Get your friends and family canceled in the name of the BLM movement".

Sell your brothers and sisters, your parents and grandparents, your chilren and grandchildren to the mob so their lives can get ruined.

[Moved post from another thread because it's on topic for this one. - Moderator]
 
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Dirius

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Re: Aunt on Facebook

Since you're calling BLM Marxist, your post is much more suitable for this thread than where you originally put it. I moved it here for that reason. Haven't had a chance to read the article yet, but when I do, I may have a response of my own. I expect there's more than one tangent to go on from it.

That was unnecesary though.

You also didn't move the post from aquarius7000, which automatically removes the context from my post.
 

aquarius7000

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Re: Aunt on Facebook

That was unnecesary though.

You also didn't move the post from aquarius7000, which automatically removes the context from my post.
My post did not call BLM Marxist. My idea was just to share an article I came across, whose topic seemed to also be about family/friends making potentially racist comments.

You have the habit of giving things the sort of 'twist' that goes with your thoughts.
It is one thing to share your opinion, which can be different. It is a completely different thing to make someone else's post seem like it is how you think it to be and then asking for it to be removed.
 

aquarius7000

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Re: Aunt on Facebook

The seeing things from one angle part could fairly be said of all of us. We can only see anything from our own angle.

The multiple sides of the coin is something to discuss, but I don't have time for it right now.
Well, if you have the time, you might try reading my entire post, so you are able to understand it in the context of the preceding sentence it was said in. I made yet another mistake of sharing something and having it getting completely twisted within a couple of hours.
 

Dirius

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Re: Aunt on Facebook

My post did not call BLM Marxist. My idea was just to share an article I came across, whose topic seemed to also be about family/friends making potentially racist comments.

You have the habit of giving things the sort of 'twist' that goes with your thoughts.
It is one thing to share your opinion, which can be different. It is a completely different thing to make someone else's post seem like it is how you think it to be and then asking for it to be removed.

What I mean is that without your post, mine losses its context, and thus doesn't "fit" inside this conversation.

It becomes a random comment. Moving it here is the same as deleting it. It loses its purpose.
 

blackbery

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Re: Aunt on Facebook

It is sad that many people here are still calling them peaceful protests.

:crying:

Another 'peaceful protest' by BLM a couple of days ago when they burned down another building in Portland. Day 52 of violent rioting, looting, burning, killing.


https://youtu.be/B8z0jFxOmFo

Christopher Columbus statues removed in Chicago

Italians built the country along with the Irish, English, Scots, Poles and others.
BLM dishonor all of them.

They have attempted to deface and destroy Lincoln Memorial but Trump put a stop to that.

The madness has to stop
& only Trump is doing all he can while the woke, Liberal Democratic Mayors & paid officials allow the carnage and the killings to continue. They are fighting him to prevent him sending in Federal Agents but he's sending them anyway because the law-abiding citizens want peace and law and order.

A sense of deep “hurt” and confusion swept through the city’s Italian American community Friday, hours after the removal of two Christopher Columbus statues in the dark of night.

“Are we happy about it? Absolutely not. As a community, we are extremely hurt,” said Sergio Giangrande, president of the Joint Civic Committee of Italian Americans, which is headquartered in Stone Park.

Giangrande said he’d been reassured by Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s recent comments that she had no plans to tear down statues of historical figures.

“I don’t understand what changed,” Giangrande said. “Are we giving in to the violence of the left at this point? ... This was a decision made without us. We were not at the table to discuss what other options there were.”





It is sad that some are so fixated in seeing things just from one angle and one angle only that they won't even consider that there is another side to the coin.
 

blackbery

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Re: Aunt on Facebook

Does that count for black people who make racist comments about whites and other races?
What about Asians or Jews who make racist comments?

Who is going to judge what is a racist comment and who are they going to snitch it too?
:whistling::whistling::whistling:


We are at the beginning of a totalitarian state where people can be indicted for their thoughts and comments by their own family. Will they go around recording and videotaping their racist family members, neighbours and friends or do we just believe a person is racist because their Uncle Joe says so.:crying::crying::crying:

Lives can be destroyed with snitching and for what? To appease the violent, terrorist BLM group? Who are the most racist organization that don't care about black children being shot in the streets for they want to destroy the police that protects them. BLM had nothing to say when gang-bangers opened gunfire at a funeral for a homicide victim. 15 people injured.

Crickets can be heard from BLM and the Black, Woke Democrat Chicago Mayor. She is completely unhinged if she doesn't think shooting at a funeral in broad daylight needs to be stopped.

https://youtu.be/UZ34wS5uw6o





My post did not call BLM Marxist. My idea was just to share an article I came across, whose topic seemed to also be about family/friends making potentially racist comments.

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blackbery

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Re: Aunt on Facebook

The article is racist against white people for it implies that ALL white people are racist against black people whether they realize it or not.:crying:

They call that a fact in the article.

And this too. If you don't agree with BLM that the protests are 'peaceful' you are labelled a racist. Even if the majority of people are black or hispanic who oppose BLM, they are racist too!


If they describe the largely peaceful protests as “looting” carried out by “a bunch of thugs,” describe to them what you saw with your own eyes when you went out protesting.


Many law-abiding citizens do think that causing over one billion dollar of property damage (private and gov't) is violent rioting, causing the deaths of at least 30 innocent people, mostly black, is violent rioting and continued rioting, looting, burning by thugs needs to be called out for what it is and not what BLM claim. It's violent, out of control rioting by thugs and it needs to stop.

https://youtu.be/3B79fn6Fmj0

https://youtu.be/uQc5uxpl3eM


Why does Black Lives Matter only care about black lives when white people are threatening them?
The movement presents an inaccurate and infantilising view of society, which strips black people of all agency



Well, if you have the time, you might try reading my entire post.
 
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AppLeo

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You know, I’ve noticed a lot of blacks being racist towards whites. Racism can happen to anyone regardless of skin color. And people who think racism only happens to certain races are racist themselves.
 

david starling

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Re: Aunt on Facebook

Does that count for black people who make racist comments about whites and other races?
What about Asians or Jews who make racist comments?

Who is going to judge what is a racist comment and who are they going to snitch it too?
:whistling::whistling::whistling:


We are at the beginning of a totalitarian state where people can be indicted for their thoughts and comments by their own family. Will they go around recording and videotaping their racist family members, neighbours and friends or do we just believe a person is racist because their Uncle Joe says so.:crying::crying::crying:

Lives can be destroyed with snitching and for what? To appease the violent, terrorist BLM group? Who are the most racist organization that don't care about black children being shot in the streets for they want to destroy the police that protects them. BLM had nothing to say when gang-bangers opened gunfire at a funeral for a homicide victim. 15 people injured.

Crickets can be heard from BLM and the Black, Woke Democrat Chicago Mayor. She is completely unhinged if she doesn't think shooting at a funeral in broad daylight needs to be stopped.

https://youtu.be/UZ34wS5uw6o

I think you're projecting too far into the future. Sat/Plu/Jup in Cap will be over by next year.

Trump's joke about how he can be President for 4 terms "if he likes it enough" encouraged the overly long projections.

My main long-term concern is the sudden increase in the ability of Federal authorities to occupy cities at will, regardless of the wishes of Governors and Mayors. That's the result of the 9/11 attacks, which caused the creation of the "Department of Homeland Security ". I and many others thought it was an ominous development at the time, and even more so now.

These shootings In Chicago appear to be mostly random, anonymous, drive-bys, which are typically done by drug-gangs.

Interesting that the violence is what's making it possible for the Federal government to exercise authority over the cities and States.

It's not about race, it's about a Fascist takeover of America, if we don't see it for what it is.
 
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blackbery

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Re: Aunt on Facebook

My point is that BLM don't care about black on black crime which kills thousands every year. That's racist and BLM is mostly made up of young, white men so it's a racist group.

The protests are mainly violent. Here is just one on Friday, 49 police officers injured, some of them seriously.


Many of the police officers being targeted and attacked are black, hispanic and asian.


According to you and others, BLM is a peaceful organization concerned with helping the lives of black citizens. :andy:

They are the opposite. Violent mob Marxists who want to overthrow the democracy by creating carnage, chaos and death.


https://youtu.be/U1VdhQbfSTY


Law-abiding black communities want more police. They are being left vulnerable with BLM goal of police defunding.
Trump is standing up for those who are powerless and are asking for help. Black Clergy want help for their communities.


Family of slain 13-year-old Chicago girl welcomes help of federal agents.

https://youtu.be/IIzsbrO_9Kc



These shootings In Chicago appear to be mostly random, anonymous, drive-bys, which are typically done by drug-gangs.

Interesting that the violence is what's making it possible for the Federal government to exercise authority over the cities and States.

It's not about race, it's about a Fascist takeover of America, if we don't see it for what it is.
 
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david starling

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Re: Aunt on Facebook

My point is that BLM don't care about black on black crime which kills thousands every year. That's racist and BLM is mostly made up of young, white men so it's a racist group.

The protests are mainly violent. Here is just one on Friday, 49 police officers injured, some of them seriously.


Many of the police officers being targeted and attacked are black, hispanic and asian.


According to you and others, BLM is a peaceful organization concerned with helping the lives of black citizens. :andy:

They are the opposite. Violent mob Marxists who want to overthrow the democracy by creating carnage, chaos and death.


https://youtu.be/U1VdhQbfSTY


Law-abiding black communities want more police. They are being left vulnerable with BLM goal of police defunding.
Trump is standing up for those who are powerless and are asking for help. Black Clergy want help for their communities.


Family of slain 13-year-old Chicago girl welcomes help of federal agents.

https://youtu.be/IIzsbrO_9Kc

Nihilistic anarchists are making a Federal, fascistic takeover of this country a possibility. Agent provocateurs shouldn't be ruled out either.
 

Osamenor

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Re: Aunt on Facebook

That was unnecesary though.

You also didn't move the post from aquarius7000, which automatically removes the context from my post.

Initially, I did. Then I moved it back because I realized how suitable it was for where she posted it. Then you made a similar response in the other thread, so the discussion followed there.

I put that note in your post to help clarify the context.

Clunky and imperfect system, trying my best.
 

waybread

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Re: Aunt on Facebook

Good for pointing that out Dirius.
The Communists and Marxists seek to destroy the family unit in order that people will turn to THEM and became part of the STATEHOOD family.

Children in Vietnam were ordered to snitch on their parents and neighbours were ordered to snitch on their neighbours and friends.
It creates a culture of fear and intimidation where nobody feels safe, not in their own family. BLM is a radical Marxist movement and destroying the family goes along with them destroying the history of the country and the law enforcement that brings law and order. BLM thrives on chaos, fear and all the usual terrorist tactics deployed by totalitarian regimes.

T

https://nypost.com/2020/07/23/trump-chicago-mayor-lori-lightfoot-agree-to-deployment-of-feds/

Blackbery, this is just way over the top. As far as children being encouraged to snitch on the parents goes, one of the most serious offenders in the past century was Hitler's Germany. (An extreme right-wing form of government.)

Or we might look at how the US implemented regime change in Chile in 1973, to prop up right wing dictator Pinochet, which included massacring both Chilean and foreign nationals suspected of Marxist sympathies, along with serious human rights violations. Thousands were "disappeared."

My daughter spent 2.5 years in communist Vietnam as a teacher in an international school. She found it to be a poor country, but not so politically oppressive as you make out. It is not North Korea.

I spent almost a year in a country with a socialist government back in the 1980s: Israel. Lord knows this country had (and has) serious problems, but to a non-Palestinian long-term visitor like myself, nobody was turning family members into a secret police. The Kibbutz system tried to implement an experiment on raising children collectively, but this wasn't so popular, and certainly parents and children got together routinely.

You fear people with so little political power that they resort to demonstrations. Where are the communists in the American corridors or power?

Please disabuse yourself of your repeated incorrect belief that the majority of Black Lives Matter supporters are Marxists. We've been over this before.

The New York Post, btw, is a seriously right-wing newspaper not known for its objectivity.
 

Dirius

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Re: Aunt on Facebook

Blackbery, this is just way over the top. As far as children being encouraged to snitch on the parents goes, one of the most serious offenders in the past century was Hitler's Germany. (An extreme right-wing form of government.)

Nazim and fascism were left-wing ideologies.

They called themselves national socialists for a reason. These movements originate in Germany's and Italy's marxist worker's party. They believed in government taking control of the economy and being responsible for providing health-care, and social equality (among ethnical germans), etc.

Hitler made constant attacks against capitalism, against democracy and against republican values. Mussolini himself was a member of the marxist party before he created his own.

The diference between fascist and communists, was the former upheld nationalistic values and wanted a mixed economy (directed by the state but with private property), while the latter wanted a global union of workers (regardless of race) and a centrally planned economy (stalinism).

They were both within the marxist spectrum - just different. These were not right-wing ideologies.

Blackbery, this is just way over the top. As far as children being encouraged to snitch on the parents goes, one of the most serious offenders in the past century was Hitler's Germany. (An extreme right-wing form of government.)
Or we might look at how the US implemented regime change in Chile in 1973, to prop up right wing dictator Pinochet, which included massacring both Chilean and foreign nationals suspected of Marxist sympathies, along with serious human rights violations. Thousands were "disappeared."

Pinochet destroyed left-wing armed terrorist militias that killed innocent people, and saw to establish a cuban style government, with the approval of then president Salvador Allende.

Pinochet, in his lifetime, had a lot of support from normal chilean citizens. He still does today.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Left_Movement_(Chile)#Before_the_coup
 
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blackbery

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Re: Aunt on Facebook

More mob violence from the BLM Marxists in solidarity with their violent comrades in Portland and NY and other cities.

Seattle police arrested at least 45 people after declaring Saturday's protest a riot due to extensive damage inflicted on businesses and the East Precinct.

Thousands of people gathered Saturday afternoon to march through Capitol Hill and protest police brutality and stand in solidarity with protests that have been happening nightly in Portland.

Rioters entered a construction site at the center and set fire to portable trailers and other equipment, and broke windows on personal vehicles in the area and court facilities.

The group continued to march toward the Seattle Police Department's East Precinct, damaging businesses along the way, including breaking nearly all the windows at the Starbucks on 12th Avenue and E Columbia Street.

Seattle police said several people emerged from the group and started spray-painting and trying to disable the security cameras at the East Precinct at 12th Avenue and East Pine Street.


That's just one city in one night. So I'm waiting on you and Way Bread to finally admit that BLM is a Marxist organization and that the protests are not 'largely peaceful' as you both keep claiming. Will you both admit that Trump is right to send in Federal Troops to stop the carnage, destruction and mayhem.

Will you both finally admit that targeting police officers on the actions of a few bad apples is wrong, unjust, unreasonable and barbaric?





Authorities said rocks, bottles and fireworks were thrown at officers.




I expect to hear crickets in regard to your condemnation of the BLM violent mob action. :crying::crying::crying:








Nihilistic anarchists are making a Federal, fascistic takeover of this country a possibility. Agent provocateurs shouldn't be ruled out either.
 
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david starling

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This trumped up violence is a convenient excuse to send Federal Agents into civilian areas despite the expressed rejection by State officials. The same federal Department that's invading cities is going to "oversee" the Nov. elections!

Ronald Reagan had a line about this: "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
 
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