I never said that.
The melancholic temperament correlation to intelligence is also something that is well known in traditional western circles. I have not seen that study on mensa students. Lin
And did I indicate that I was saying anything to the contrary?
Which is why too much generalization is not productive to accurate chart reading. Some generalizations hold more water than others - if a pattern can hold even when going through this trial by fire, then you have something solid that you can use in chart delineation. Poking holes in what someone posits is apart of the research and development process, is it not?
Why should my arrogance get in the way of honest inquiry? My style will not appeal to everyone, and I'm ok with that. I don't plan to change to please anybody.
It's a public forum and I'm free to share my opinion on a thread that is filled with other people's opinions. I have a contrary opinion to one specific poster and provided counter examples as to why his views don't hold.
The thread is about intelligence though, and not success. I'm not the one muddying the water by adding in emotional intelligence or conscientiousness to what is supposed to be a separate issue/trait.
1) What am I wrong about?
2) In which source(s) is it established that water and fire mercury denote lesser logic and rationality?
3) What's your definition of bitching?
4) Why is it a problem if someone's questions a categorization? I've not seen this pattern hold water in my own chart reading experience. Must I not speak up if I see a discrepancy?
You're so intellectually dishonest. Elving had indicated that aspects are usually the cause of these mercuries having more intelligence and another person had indicated placements and aspects usually are worth more than the signs. Which would make sense as the more time-sensitive something in a chart is, the more it pertains to you.
Also this is the link:
https://proastrologer.com/2013/04/1...le-the-astrology-of-mensa-level-intelligence/
When you had then indicated that one of the four people you decided to add on that list had mercury saturn, I had told you that mercury saturn actually creates smart people as I have seen that come up a lot along with other stuff in one of my mini research endeveurs. Instead of addressing that, all of a sudden your ego got a boner at the word 'stalk.'
Deflection, intellectually dishonesty, and arrogance, no wonder elving71 whatever his name is is heated up.
So no you don't challenge, you deflect and don't answer with straight answers. You're shady, want to win, and clearly much of the **** written here hurts your ego.
As for water and fire signs making mercury weak
Mercury doesn't like the moon, mars(which traditionally rules scorpio and aries), jupiter(that traditionally rules sag and pisces), and does like sun(leo) probably the only fire sign.
I wouldn't be surprised why anyone indicated they think mercury is weaker in water and fire signs(although that may not one hundred percent be true or all the time), but I can sympathize with why they may think that.
Fire signs are about passion, and action(sometimes they lack foresight). Water signs are almost too slow, about relationships and emotions. Air signs are about sharing ideas, and earth signs are about practicality and attaining things methodically.
Air and Earth signs are also in the middle when it comes to the spectrum of male and female and that's what is required of you in order to attain any sort of ability to live in the real world.
Also think about it: Air signs include aquarius(some specify this is where it is exalted), libra(mercury does like venus), and gemini(it's own sign). Earth has cap(mercury has a similar temperament to saturn), taurus(mercury likes venus), and virgo(mercury rules virgo).
So generally speaking, mercury in a sign with the agenda to be methodical, attain things, and share ideas would be a tiny bit more intelligent than the contrary.
This as you can see is a theory that is grounded in something rather than trying to generalize everyone and say that you can't tell whether someone will be smart by looking at their chart.
In my humble opinion now, someone can be smart with mercury in a fire/water sign, and that's probably very little of what indicates someone being intelligent.
Parashara for example emphasizes the third house for book smarts, fifth house for creativity, abstract and theoretical thought, and sixth house for practicality.
Now in my humble opinion, if you were to take parashara's, insight, the state of mercury and it's aspects. Quintile and trine being the aspect of talent and easiness, and conjunctions being an aspect of deep learning the energy in this lifetime, and you factor in EQ (the moon's state of being and I hear in some places moon may be memory), you might have an answer on whether or not someone is intelligent. Now if you factor in conscientiousness in a chart, you can probably get someone that is well-developed and will be for the rest of their life.
It's possible you just need to find legitimate sources, and do some research.
